#1
I'm in the market for a lightweight long scale guitar with 24 or more frets.
Longer than 25.5 and more than 24 frets would be even better.

It doesn't seem like I can get all three of these. The closest i've seen were the extremely expensive carbon fiber Parkers or perhaps a semi hollow prs (don't know if a 24 fretter exists)

I may have to go custom made but I'm not sure of the reputable builders around my part of Canada.
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what do you mean by lightweight


light·weight
/ˈlītˌwāt/

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1. of thin material or build and weighing less than average "a lightweight gray suit" synonyms: thin, light, flimsy, insubstantial, summery


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The carbon fiber Parkers are a good example, or perhaps something semi hollow?
At the very least, ~half the weight of my Les Paul Custom would be a good place to start.
#5
What is your actual budget?

I know Jon Kammerer had among his standard models a 25.5" scale, 24 fret, small-bodied semihollow doublecut "travel" guitar that was around 5 lbs and cost @$2000. He's revamping his line and doing a Kickstarter campaign soon, so who knows what he has right now.

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#6
Take a look on Rondo's site at some of the Agile guitars. I have seen them have a couple of 27" guitars that have 24 frets. Just a suggestion. Not too sure on the weight of them, but they generally include that info on the specs.
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#7
Basswood guitars are pretty light. Something like a Jackson Soloist SLX. Or any other of their X-Series.
#8
Budget is anywhere from 400-1000. Looking for a good value most of all.

Basswood might be good enough then. The reason i'm looking for baritone/longer scale is for the added string tension with lighter strings. I recently switched from a Les Paul 24.75" with 11's to a Samick Valley Arts 25.5" with 9's and suddenly noticed less pain when bending and also that the large strings were suppressing some wonderful vibrato. I also noticed the lighter strings are easier to get across.
I obviously don't want to go back to the Les Paul with 11's tension, but somewhere in between that and my current guitar should be quite nice.

So perhaps a 25.5 inch scale, 24 fret, possibly 7 string, tuned a step higher than standard e pitch with 8's or 9's...

Now if I could only find a basswood Les Paul style with 24 frets, and 25.5" scale, let alone 7 string...
Last edited by mik James at Sep 21, 2015,
#9
You COULD just switch to 9's or 10's on the LP, you know.

Carvin makes a headless guitar -- about 5 lbs in a 25.5" scale (yes, 24 frets). 27" and seven string available in the same guitar. Over your budget, but awesome.
#10
Basswood's not particularly lightweight -- it's more about the design of the guitar.
#11
Swing buy a guitar center and try a Schecter Blackjack SLS. They tend to have light bodies and the thin necks are also pretty light.
#12
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light·weight
/ˈlītˌwāt/

adjective

1. of thin material or build and weighing less than average "a lightweight gray suit" synonyms: thin, light, flimsy, insubstantial, summery


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The carbon fiber Parkers are a good example, or perhaps something semi hollow?
At the very least, ~half the weight of my Les Paul Custom would be a good place to start.


Quote by mik James
Budget is anywhere from 400-1000. Looking for a good value most of all.

Basswood might be good enough then. The reason i'm looking for baritone/longer scale is for the added string tension with lighter strings. I recently switched from a Les Paul 24.75" with 11's to a Samick Valley Arts 25.5" with 9's and suddenly noticed less pain when bending and also that the large strings were suppressing some wonderful vibrato. I also noticed the lighter strings are easier to get across.
I obviously don't want to go back to the Les Paul with 11's tension, but somewhere in between that and my current guitar should be quite nice.

So perhaps a 25.5 inch scale, 24 fret, possibly 7 string, tuned a step higher than standard e pitch with 8's or 9's...

Now if I could only find a basswood Les Paul style with 24 frets, and 25.5" scale, let alone 7 string...



"half the weight of my Les Paul Custom would be a good place to start" is a meaningless metric. lp custom's weigh all over the map. the "map" being the weight of gibson les paul customs in specific.

mine's from 71' and seems to be fortified with depleted urainum (it's actually due to the mineral content of the wood of that era). how much does yours weight?

what is it that you are actually after? one statement seems to be weight driven, another seems to be concerned with string tension, and then you now want a 7 string tuned up a whole step. nothing's related here. focus and you can be helped easier.
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Basswood's not particularly lightweight -- it's more about the design of the guitar.


agreed. I've tried heavier basswood guitars, and also lighter ones.
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You COULD just switch to 9's or 10's on the LP, you know.


Indeed, I could do that if I wanted to play spaghetti
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what is it that you are actually after? one statement seems to be weight driven, another seems to be concerned with string tension, and then you now want a 7 string tuned up a whole step. nothing's related here. focus and you can be helped easier.


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#16
The suggestions are much appreciated. I have a better idea of what to look for now.
#17
Yamaha RGX A2
It's super duper light weight and looks pretty cool.
Doesn't meet your other requirements but you'd have to go custom for the whole shebang
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Dude, stretch that budget and get a chambered Vader like someone else said. Lightweight indeed.
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#19
the ibanez S-Series are pretty light, i don't remember which (if any) have 24 frets.

there is supposedly a lightweight soloist, i think. i don't know though. i haven't tried it.
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#20
Ibanez standard S Series is 25.5", extremely light, very thin neck, and mine is set up beautifully. You would never believe it is a $400 guitar by how well it plays. Also I do back Carvin wholeheartedly, best guitars out there under $2k imo.
#21
dude you are looking for an ibanez s series. they have several 24 fret models, most of which are at least 25" scale. i just bought a mew one today actually, couldnt be happier with the purchase. the body is barely thicker than the neck its insane. go try one out youll love it
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#22
Probably going to go with a Kramer assault 220. It has 24 frets, 25.5" scale, and a lighter variant of the les paul style build that I like. The purple quilt top on the Epiphone Nighthawk is really tempting though, to bad they don't make a 24 fret variant :p
#23
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Basswood's not particularly lightweight -- it's more about the design of the guitar.

+1, most of the basswood guitars I've owned have been on the heavy side.

OP, try an Ibanez S. They're really thin and are usually quite light (this varies depending on the guitar, of course).
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#24
what price? Carvin is the answer but it will cost you 800-900+
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#25
No worries folks, i'm going with the Kramer Assualt 220 or 220 plus for now.
Thank you for the recommendations.