#1
Hi there

I see recommendations regarding replacing the pickups of cheap guitar as it won't make such difference. I have Ibanez RG320FM which is a standard series and I was thinking of replacing the infinity pickups with Dimarzio petrucci set. My guitar plays very smooth and I really like its feeling. However, I am not sure whether it is considered a cheap guitar or not. It has basswood body with flamed maple top, maple neck and rosewood fretboard. The guitar is made in Korea. Would replacing the pickup make any improvement in sound ? I am playing it through gt8 and laney ironheart studio amp
#2
Does it matter?Do you like the sound of the Petrucci pups?Have you heard a sound bite of them?
If you wanna change your pickups then go for it imo.
#3
the pickups will help you out quite a bit.

cheap is subjective, and more importantly there are different problems of different 'cheap' guitars. if it can stay in tune and play well, i would put pickups in it.

i have the crunch lab/liquifire (petrucci set) in a ibanez prestige, i fucking love them.

go for it!


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on a side note i ALWAYS advise keeping stock parts. you generally don't get your money back from pickup upgrades if you sell it. if you do the swap, and keep the originals, if you go to sell it, put the originals back in. then you have two upgraded pickups, which you can either sell and recoup a little more, or throw in something else. i probably have 20 pickups sitting in my parts bins from swaps.
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#4
You have a very decent amp, so if you like how the guitar plays, definitely go for it. Even if you get a new and more expensive one, you can have it for a different tone, alternate tunings or as a backup if you play live.
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The pickups will breathe new life into your guitar. I have 8 guitars. The only ones that I haven't changed the pickups in were the 2 acoustics and the bass. It improved each one. Cheap guitars have cheap pickups. The pickups have more effect on your sound than anything else.
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I have a cheap knock off strat that's on it's 4th set of pickups (for tonal reasons, not failures). I love the damn thing and I will keep it until I die. Never let the price of a good playing guitar keep you from making it better.
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The pickups will breathe new life into your guitar. I have 8 guitars. The only ones that I haven't changed the pickups in were the 2 acoustics and the bass. It improved each one. Cheap guitars have cheap pickups. The pickups have more effect on your sound than anything else.


I have a slightly different outlook on these things. I'm right at 51 guitars at the moment, and I've rarely changed pickups. Cheap guitars have...well...pickups. Done in volume, pickup materials run about $1.50, maybe less. More, of course, if you're winding your pickups at home and buying materials in units of 5 or 10.

Simply throwing more money at a set of pickups guarantees nothing (other than your wallet thinning). Pedals and amps make a larger difference in your sound. IMHO, of course.
#9
i have no problem with putting expensive pickups in cheap (however you want to define it) guitars, provided you know 1) what is wrong with the current ones and 2) how the proposed new set will fix it. My views are a bit extreme on this, as I place almost no value on the lump of wood and have no strong interest hypothetical tone wood effects.

Modding costs are usually lost on resale, so I would keep the old pickups.
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i have no problem with putting expensive pickups in cheap (however you want to define it) guitars, provided you know 1) what is wrong with the current ones and 2) how the proposed new set will fix it. My views are a bit extreme on this, as I place almost no value on the lump of wood and have no strong interest hypothetical tone wood effects.

Modding costs are usually lost on resale, so I would keep the old pickups.

+1 to all this

As long as the guitar plays well, of course.
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the pickups will help you out quite a bit.

cheap is subjective, and more importantly there are different problems of different 'cheap' guitars. if it can stay in tune and play well, i would put pickups in it.


+1

stock ibanez pickups are notorious for being mediocre at best, most of the time.
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+1

stock ibanez pickups are notorious for being mediocre at best, most of the time.


Ibanez is certainly a big offender when it comes to pior sounding pickups.
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Well to give the full picture... I would whether replace the pickups or replace the guitar with LTD EC1000S (most probably the seymour duncan rather than emg) ... Which direction to go?
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What don't you like about the guitar's sound at the moment?

It doesnt sound clear especially when recording (i record at home)
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Well to give the full picture... I would whether replace the pickups or replace the guitar with LTD EC1000S (most probably the seymour duncan rather than emg) ... Which direction to go?

Why that guitar in particular? It's incomparable to your Ibanez in almost every way.

Its a better quality guitar no doubt, but what gives?
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It doesnt sound clear especially when recording (i record at home)


First thing to do is to determine if the guitar or pickups are actually at fault with that.
Have you tried a different (more expensive, whatever) guitar running into your home recording setup?
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Why that guitar in particular? It's incomparable to your Ibanez in almost every way.

Its a better quality guitar no doubt, but what gives?

I was thinking the same thing.
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Why that guitar in particular? It's incomparable to your Ibanez in almost every way.

Its a better quality guitar no doubt, but what gives?

My requirements leading to the EC1000S :
1. Les Paul shape (I love this shape)
2. 24 frets (I can't compromise frets 23 and 24)
3. Fixed bridge (I very rarely use tremolo on my Ibanez)
4. Better quality components than my Ibanez (body wood, pickups)

One other important point, we have ESP authorized dealer in Egypt so I was able to go and try the guitar.
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90% of the materials in a guitar literally do nothing to help its sound. basswood, etc. thats all magic.

most of it is build quality, perfect intonation, playability, tuning stability, pickups, wiring, SCALE LENGTH, overall design (strat, les, PRS etc), that have major impacts. out of those things, pickups are one of the most drastic. they are the engine if your guitar.

so yes, assuming your guitar plays well and holds tune, no issues, good pitch, wiring etc, throw some new pups in there.


the KEY is that good pickups dont matter if you have a CRAP AMP. you dont. you dont have the best amp, not some 3000 dollar thing that literally translates every breathe, heartbeat, your cats heartbeat, and the fly in your neighbors apartment into perfect sonic amazement, detects the slightest nuances and playing styles and everything translates perfectly....

but a decent tube amp will do fine. DONT buy pickups if you have some line 6 spider or something crappy like that. you probably wont hear your money's worth of difference.

if you have bad wiring, bad (tone sucking) pedal setup, and a bad amp, nothing will come through in your upgrades.
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I have a slightly different outlook on these things. I'm right at 51 guitars at the moment, and I've rarely changed pickups. Cheap guitars have...well...pickups. Done in volume, pickup materials run about $1.50, maybe less. More, of course, if you're winding your pickups at home and buying materials in units of 5 or 10.

Simply throwing more money at a set of pickups guarantees nothing (other than your wallet thinning). Pedals and amps make a larger difference in your sound. IMHO, of course.

This is true. However I find that at some price point the guitars are very much held back by the pickups (this usually starts happening right around $400). Epiphone Les Pauls are known to have god-awful pickups (or were, anyway) and improving those is/was the easiest way to make those guitars sound better.
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