#1
Hey UG, My band is trying to get a bunch of low key gigs to test out our new guitar player, and last Friday we showed up to the most disorganized horror fest you've ever seen!

We didn't advertise the gig, just brought along a few friends that live in the area and a couple of our regulars who traveled with us. Some how we brought 18 of the 20 paying customers in the bar! Of course, sound check is running late and no body gets one. Now the whole show is behind so we barely get to even test levels. After a jam and volume adjustment my lips touch the mix *SHOCK*. We finish our little set instrumental and just jam out for a bit. Then we pack up our gear and it turns out no one else brought there own cabs and one dude asked to borrow a dirt box!

We're usually nice dudes and we appreciate these bands letting us open for them on short notice so we lend them the gear. After the show I say "how'd you like the pedal man" (Fuzz pedal I built, searching for a buyer haha) and he goes yeah it was real cool man but when I jumped on it it stopped working?

WTF man, it's not boss don't jump on it! Never again I say.

Anyone got similar stories or anecdotes?

TL;DR Played a gig, dude borrowed a pedal, broke it, didn't apologize. Anyone else have gear borrowing horror stories?
#2
You should have kicked that guys ass
Frankly anyone who turns up to play a gig without actually having the right gear to play a gig is an idiot who should not be playing gigs

My brother once had to lend his bandmate a guitar for a gig. As in, a fucking guitarist didn't have a guitar
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#3
Maybe you shouldn't have built such a poor quality pedal.
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#5
Anyone who doesn't bring the gear they need to do a gig is a moron.

There was this one bassist I knew who was in a band, but he didn't even own an amp. He had to borrow whatever PA was available there like a mong. Goes without saying that rehearsal was a complete waste of time since the bassist couldn't hear himself.
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#6
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Anyone who doesn't bring the gear they need to do a gig is a moron.


I partly agree, but I will add the condition that they don't ask first. It's perfectly fine to talk to a band that you are friends with about borrowing like a bass amp or something so you don't have to bring your own. It's pretty common for bands to backline/share bass amps or drum kits within local scenes.

But showing up without the stuff you need and expecting to borrow stuff without having made arrangements well in advance, especially if you expect to borrow stuff from someone that you don't know well, is really stupid.
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#7
I hate it to the point where I don't. If you didn't bring your shits, sucks for you.
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I hate it to the point where I don't. If you didn't bring your shits, sucks for you.


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#9
I feel your pain. A similar thing happened to me once:

I played a gig where the guy playing after my band asked if he could use my pedal board. I should have said No since I had seen his shows before and knew he relied on being out-of-control on the stage in exchange for actual talent. But I said Sure whatever.

This guy's act was literally just strumming all the strings on his guitar, cause feedback, and then fuck with every knob on every one of my pedals to see what bizarre sounds he could get.

That wasn't so bad until he started punching my wah pedal and slamming my pedal board up and down. One of the aux cords snapped or clipped a wire causing his signal to cut in and out. He then looked at me and, I kid you not, said, "You're fucking pedals are a piece of shit". Eventually the signal was cut off entirely and he stormed off stage and commented on all social media related to that show "The absolute worst performance I've done, thanks to faulty equipment. That was unacceptable."

That was the last show my band ever played.

...I hate that guy
#10
Quote by BreatheOver
I feel your pain. A similar thing happened to me once:

I played a gig where the guy playing after my band asked if he could use my pedal board. I should have said No since I had seen his shows before and knew he relied on being out-of-control on the stage in exchange for actual talent. But I said Sure whatever.

This guy's act was literally just strumming all the strings on his guitar, cause feedback, and then fuck with every knob on every one of my pedals to see what bizarre sounds he could get.

That wasn't so bad until he started punching my wah pedal and slamming my pedal board up and down. One of the aux cords snapped or clipped a wire causing his signal to cut in and out. He then looked at me and, I kid you not, said, "You're fucking pedals are a piece of shit". Eventually the signal was cut off entirely and he stormed off stage and commented on all social media related to that show "The absolute worst performance I've done, thanks to faulty equipment. That was unacceptable."

That was the last show my band ever played.

...I hate that guy


This story pissed me off, how did you not kick his ass?
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#11
Quote by BreatheOver
I feel your pain. A similar thing happened to me once:

I played a gig where the guy playing after my band asked if he could use my pedal board. I should have said No since I had seen his shows before and knew he relied on being out-of-control on the stage in exchange for actual talent. But I said Sure whatever.

This guy's act was literally just strumming all the strings on his guitar, cause feedback, and then fuck with every knob on every one of my pedals to see what bizarre sounds he could get.

That wasn't so bad until he started punching my wah pedal and slamming my pedal board up and down. One of the aux cords snapped or clipped a wire causing his signal to cut in and out. He then looked at me and, I kid you not, said, "You're fucking pedals are a piece of shit". Eventually the signal was cut off entirely and he stormed off stage and commented on all social media related to that show "The absolute worst performance I've done, thanks to faulty equipment. That was unacceptable."

That was the last show my band ever played.

...I hate that guy


That is rough dude...
#12
Sharing gear is OK, so long as it's arranged in advance, with a clear understanding that "you break it, you bought it".

And, of course, that you're not a dick with other people's gear.
#13
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I partly agree, but I will add the condition that they don't ask first. It's perfectly fine to talk to a band that you are friends with about borrowing like a bass amp or something so you don't have to bring your own. It's pretty common for bands to backline/share bass amps or drum kits within local scenes.

Yeah, I can understand it being impractical to bring an entire drumkit if it's only somewhere small like a bar. But bass amps don't require anywhere near that amount of freight.
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Yeah, I can understand it being impractical to bring an entire drumkit if it's only somewhere small like a bar. But bass amps don't require anywhere near that amount of freight.


Backline at a bar gig is pretty common but should be discussed first, showing up and expecting it to be all good is stupid.
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how did you not kick his ass?


I honestly don't know. I think at the time I didn't want to cause a scene or somehow make myself look like a dick so I just did nothing. Wish I had. Hindsight is always 20/20 I suppose.
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Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Yeah, I can understand it being impractical to bring an entire drumkit if it's only somewhere small like a bar. But bass amps don't require anywhere near that amount of freight.


From a bassist point bass amps aren't a problem unless you've got an 8x10. Buuut... from a sound person perspective, swapping bass amps is annoying. Nothing is better than setting levels for a drum kit and bass amp and then letting them sit for the night and having to not worry so much about it.

Knowing this, if somebody agrees to provide the sole bass amp for the night, or at least use it for two or three of the bands, that will make the sound person's job easier. Happy sound person makes everybody's lives easier. It also means less time wasted between sets, better mixes, etc.

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Backline at a bar gig is pretty common but should be discussed first, showing up and expecting it to be all good is stupid.


It's common at a lot of venues, to the point where some venues will even provide drum kits and bass amps. Most of the shows I've ever played, organized, or ran sound for had some amount of backlining, either drums, amps, or both.

But again... the important point is the whole "in advance" thing.
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#17
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Yeah, I can understand it being impractical to bring an entire drumkit if it's only somewhere small like a bar. But bass amps don't require anywhere near that amount of freight.

But the cab, tho...



I actually do know a guy who used to run a VBA 800 through one of these for club-size gigs
#19
Ask before the gig.
Many of the places I played all the bands on the bill got together and talked and agreed to share drum shells, but bring their cymbals and snare
Guitarists shared cabs if they were ok with the speakers in it
And bassist shared cabs and/or heads.

But to go to a gig without it planned out in advance is like getting ready to fuck someone and failing to get hard.
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#20
one of my friends had a fender strat he was going to play at a college band night.

one bloke asked if he could borrow it, proceeded to put it in drop c then try and play with it - my friend consequently sounded rubbish as he couldn't get it to stay in tune afterwards!
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#22
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I feel your pain. A similar thing happened to me once:

I played a gig where the guy playing after my band asked if he could use my pedal board. I should have said No since I had seen his shows before and knew he relied on being out-of-control on the stage in exchange for actual talent. But I said Sure whatever.

This guy's act was literally just strumming all the strings on his guitar, cause feedback, and then fuck with every knob on every one of my pedals to see what bizarre sounds he could get.

That wasn't so bad until he started punching my wah pedal and slamming my pedal board up and down. One of the aux cords snapped or clipped a wire causing his signal to cut in and out. He then looked at me and, I kid you not, said, "You're fucking pedals are a piece of shit". Eventually the signal was cut off entirely and he stormed off stage and commented on all social media related to that show "The absolute worst performance I've done, thanks to faulty equipment. That was unacceptable."

That was the last show my band ever played.

...I hate that guy


wow. if i were you i would've shoved the guy off stage, unplugged my board, picked it up and left. how do people like this even exist?
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wow. if i were you i would've shoved the guy off stage, unplugged my board, picked it up and left. how do people like this even exist?

Because his behaviour wouldn't be a legal reason to insert his guitar in him.
#24
My bass amp is a big heavy mother fucker with a 15" speaker. It's a pain in the ass and if someone else had one already at the venue, yeah id see if i could use it instead of lugging around a 100lb monster. I would never want to use someone else's guitar amp though because im an absurdly picky fuck about my electric guitar tone
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#25
I LOVE sharing gear.

There's nothing I hate more than 4 bands sharing a bill and having 8 amps, 4 bass amps, a huge mess of a drum kit and spending most of the evening micing and soundchecking. It's hassle to load and unload, makes changeovers a mess and guess what, the audience doesn't care that you're using a handwired class A amp or a marshall or whatever. It just doesn't compute to them. You're the only one who cares

A few weeks before every gig, I get in touch with the other bands and we see who brings what. More stage space, easy changeover, ONE soundcheck. There is zero point to having four of everything.
#26
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I LOVE sharing gear.

There's nothing I hate more than 4 bands sharing a bill and having 8 amps, 4 bass amps, a huge mess of a drum kit and spending most of the evening micing and soundchecking. It's hassle to load and unload, makes changeovers a mess and guess what, the audience doesn't care that you're using a handwired class A amp.

A few weeks before every gig, I get in touch with the other bands and we see who brings what. More stage space, easy changeover, ONE soundcheck. There is zero point to having four of everything.

There's a lot of truth to this. It does, however, rely on everyone being trustworthy, and agreeing to the sacred principle of borrowing: respect the other guy and his gear, as you hope he would with you and yours.
#27
i let absolutely no one even touch my equipment,
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I feel your pain. A similar thing happened to me once:

I played a gig where the guy playing after my band asked if he could use my pedal board. I should have said No since I had seen his shows before and knew he relied on being out-of-control on the stage in exchange for actual talent. But I said Sure whatever.

This guy's act was literally just strumming all the strings on his guitar, cause feedback, and then fuck with every knob on every one of my pedals to see what bizarre sounds he could get.

That wasn't so bad until he started punching my wah pedal and slamming my pedal board up and down. One of the aux cords snapped or clipped a wire causing his signal to cut in and out. He then looked at me and, I kid you not, said, "You're fucking pedals are a piece of shit". Eventually the signal was cut off entirely and he stormed off stage and commented on all social media related to that show "The absolute worst performance I've done, thanks to faulty equipment. That was unacceptable."

That was the last show my band ever played.

...I hate that guy
and this is why.
#28
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There's a lot of truth to this. It does, however, rely on everyone being trustworthy, and agreeing to the sacred principle of borrowing: respect the other guy and his gear, as you hope he would with you and yours.


That's true. However, in the case of the OP having his pedal messed up... I wouldn't lend my pedals or my guitar (except in the case of a mid song string break or other imprompty electronic breakdown). Our drummer doesn't lend his breakables (cymbals, snare etc.)

Our amps are also powerful enough that if the musicians borrowing them put them loud enough to damage them, the soundguy would shut him down because they damage ear drums before they damage themselves, hehe