#1
I need some help: which one of these two would you recommend (if at all) as someone's first 7-string guitar? (for metal)

http://www.thomann.de/gb/schecter_demon_7_satin_black.htm

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_rg7421pb_sbf.htm

I've heard good about both of them. This Ibanez is said to be easier to play than some other 7-string guitars and it has mahagony body. The Schecter one seems too... cheap but the reviews are good. I don't want to go over 550-600€ (note: these two cost more in Europe). No shops where I live sell these two so I can't try them out.

Would someone give me advise?
#2
Get the Ibanez, Schecters always feel like cheap plastic toys to me.

Ibanez are also super playable and tge neck access is amazing.
#3
If you want a thin neck and active pickups get the Schecter. If you want a thinner neck and passive pickups get the Ibanez. I could go into the relative merits of the two pickups, but metal players tend to treat Schecter’s Duncan Designed pups and Ibanez’s stock pups with equal disdain, so…eh.
#4
I have a Demon 7 and can say nothing but great things about it. It's solid, reliable, comfortable to play, and the pickups are honestly better than probably anything you can get in this price range.

The Ibanez is probably going to be decent too, but the main thing is I've heard lower-end Ibanez models tend to have issues with fretwork.
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#5
Watch used listings in Europe. Check out message board's For Sale sections. You'll find a nice deal if you're patient.
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#6
I've not played the 7421 but I've owned two 7321's. All ibby pickups are garbage. Neck was pretty well curved on both (setups/truss adjustments helped some but never got really solid and straight) the ends of the frets are like razor blades to your hands. So unless you're planning to at least swap the pups and file the frets I'd go for the schecter personally.

Also, as stated above, check used listings wherever possible. In the states you can pretty easily find 7 string hellraisers right around $600 usd. Just have to know where to look. In my case in particular, being near chicago, there is a big craigslist market and even a dedicated facebook group for buying/selling/trading instruments locally.

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#7
i saw a nice prestige 7 string on reverb.com the other day. $550 i think. i have three prestige six stringers and i love them. they are hard to beat for the money.
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#8
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All ibby pickups are garbage.
I have an RGD2120Z, and although the guitar itself is constructed beautifully and it makes a wonderful workhorse of a guitar, the pickups leave something to be desired - plenty of output but not much else. If you get an Ibanez, either get one with aftermarket pups or expect to change them further down the line.
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#9
I agree that the stock pickups warrant replacement.

Solid guitars though, top notch build and craftsmanship.
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#10
Thank you all! After some itching and scratching, I made a decision - Ibanez.
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Thank you all! After some itching and scratching, I made a decision - Ibanez.


Good call. I think you will like it.

I got my fourth prestige in yesterday. However my wife is not going to let me play it until Christmas, as it is my Christmas present.

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#12
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Good call. I think you will like it.

I got my fourth prestige in yesterday. However my wife is not going to let me play it until Christmas, as it is my Christmas present.


My prestige is my best guitar right now. That's fucking rough.
Ibanez Prestige RG852MPB
Ibanez Prestige RG652KFX
ESP E-II M-1
LTD AW-7
Schecter Loomis NT
EVH 5150 III 50
PRS 212 DB
Line 6 POD HD500X
Deadhorse OD/Boss HM-2