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#1
I was not a spoiled child, did what my parents told me to do, and if I screwed up, well, I was hit.

I learned and eventually come to a conclusion that it was a good thing they did that because it kept me in line from slacking off and taught me valuable morals and responsibility.

A friend of mine who was spoiled and got everything now has personal problems to deal with because he wasn't taught how to do certain things as a kid and he's a very lazy slacker that failed in society so far. So now me and a couple buddies decided to help him out.

I don't know if other situations like this happened to people, so what do you all think?
#2
Can parenting affect your behaviour in the long term? Good question, glad you asked it.
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#3
Yes it can.

Spoiled people (who can often be lone children) can be annoying little bitches who don't know the value of money and how hard other people have to work to get what they take for granted

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#4
I was spoiled and I'm a douchebag.

though I hope you're not implying we should start hitting people to teach them 'life lessons' lol.
#5
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Can parenting affect your behaviour in the long term? Good question, glad you asked it.

Can asking sarcastic questions stifle conversation and foster a hostile mindset in an already struggling community? I don't know, you tell me.
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#6
Certainly in teenagers it can cause major issues. And not just in the spoilt kids themselves either.


Adulthood I don't really have enough examples to say conclusively. I did go to school with this absolute brat though. She seems to feel really bad about it and spends most of her time doing charity work now.
#7
On the other hand, I have an ex that was a complete brat because she felt more special than others because she "been though shit all alone". She was constantly talking bad about people that had a loving family or other people that offered a helping hand.

I believe it's either too much of being spoiled or left alone that makes a person an asshole.
#8
I come from a privileged background and I'm lazy, but I feel like by admitting that I am shifting the blame to my parents rather than accepting that it's my own fault.

Most of my friends are from similarly privileged backgrounds and none of them are as bad as I am. They're good people and they work very hard.
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#9
Absolutely. I didn't come from a wealthy background, so I have always had to work to get things I wanted. To be honest, not being given everything I could ever want (in my opinion) has given me an outstanding work ethic and I appreciate the things I have earned for myself.
#10
I was (am) spoiled but everyone likes me because i'm not a douchebag
or am i
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#11
IME spoiled people can be super oblivious to the world's problems and have little to no empathy for those who didn't grow up under similarly privileged circumstances.
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#12
Yes, but you don't spoil kids with things, you spoil them by not paying attention, not teaching them, not holding them accountable and then giving them things to make up for your own parental failures.

All of my kids had more, and cooler, stuff than I did, and I'm glad they did. I don't begrudge them the fact that they grew up in a more technologically advanced era than I did. But I still did my job as a parent to the best of my ability, and that included paying attention to them, doing things with them, showing them how to do things (and letting them fail occasionally, even when I hated it) and holding them accountable for their actions. (but NOT letting them be held hostage to the actions of others, group accountability is a crock of shit.)

They turned out ok.
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#13
Yes. Not even up for debate.
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#14
there's this dude whose parents are really rich. he got his ba in philosophy and now spends his time playing video games and working a min wage job. I'm from a poor background, chasing a stem degree and career and work a job thats fairly over min wage.

so yeah

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#15
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Yes, but you don't spoil kids with things, you spoil them by not paying attention, not teaching them, not holding them accountable and then giving them things to make up for your own parental failures.

All of my kids had more, and cooler, stuff than I did, and I'm glad they did. I don't begrudge them the fact that they grew up in a more technologically advanced era than I did. But I still did my job as a parent to the best of my ability, and that included paying attention to them, doing things with them, showing them how to do things (and letting them fail occasionally, even when I hated it) and holding them accountable for their actions. (but NOT letting them be held hostage to the actions of others, group accountability is a crock of shit.)

They turned out ok.

Agreed. Giving a kid the stuff he/she wants or asks for isn't inherently bad, but it's always going to be necessary to actually parent the kid as well.
When I asked my dad for a pedal kart, he did in fact make sure I got one, but he did so by building me one himself (and letting me help). Not only did I get my pedal kart, but I also learned some stuff and had a great day with my dad. And in doing stuff like this (my mom did similar stuff), my parents also showed me that the expensive stuff other kids had wasn't the only way to have a good time, so I ended up asking for less stuff.
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Can asking sarcastic questions stifle conversation and foster a hostile mindset in an already struggling community? I don't know, you tell me.

If that upsets you, then you're not made for The Pit.

Sarcasm is good humour, and we need more of that in The Pit other than asking questions to where there can be no disagreement.

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On the other hand, I have an ex that was a complete brat because she felt more special than others because she "been though shit all alone". She was constantly talking bad about people that had a loving family or other people that offered a helping hand.

I believe it's either too much of being spoiled or left alone that makes a person an asshole.

This, also. Isn't it annoying when people go on about how hard they've worked and how they judge everyone else for not working so hard? It's almost like they resent other people for not struggling.
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#19
Sure, but some people grow up and have enough self-awareness to know they were shits as kids.

I got a bit of both sides of the spectrum. Physical discipline has not and will never work on me. Bloody me up, black my eyes, it won't change my behavior. A reward system has always been much more effective in altering my habits.
#20
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Yes, but you don't spoil kids with things, you spoil them by not paying attention, not teaching them, not holding them accountable and then giving them things to make up for your own parental failures.

All of my kids had more, and cooler, stuff than I did, and I'm glad they did. I don't begrudge them the fact that they grew up in a more technologically advanced era than I did. But I still did my job as a parent to the best of my ability, and that included paying attention to them, doing things with them, showing them how to do things (and letting them fail occasionally, even when I hated it) and holding them accountable for their actions. (but NOT letting them be held hostage to the actions of others, group accountability is a crock of shit.)

They turned out ok.

yea, this
#21
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Agreed. Giving a kid the stuff he/she wants or asks for isn't inherently bad, but it's always going to be necessary to actually parent the kid as well.
When I asked my dad for a pedal kart, he did in fact make sure I got one, but he did so by building me one himself (and letting me help). Not only did I get my pedal kart, but I also learned some stuff and had a great day with my dad. And in doing stuff like this (my mom did similar stuff), my parents also showed me that the expensive stuff other kids had wasn't the only way to have a good time, so I ended up asking for less stuff.

Your dad seems cool.
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#22
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Agreed. Giving a kid the stuff he/she wants or asks for isn't inherently bad, but it's always going to be necessary to actually parent the kid as well.
When I asked my dad for a pedal kart, he did in fact make sure I got one, but he did so by building me one himself (and letting me help). Not only did I get my pedal kart, but I also learned some stuff and had a great day with my dad. And in doing stuff like this (my mom did similar stuff), my parents also showed me that the expensive stuff other kids had wasn't the only way to have a good time, so I ended up asking for less stuff.


Sounds like your dad understands what it means to be a dad!

Make sure you keep that tradition alive!
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#23
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#24
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I was spoiled and I'm a douchebag.

I wasn't spoiled(at least, I don't think I was), and I'm a cunt.
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I wasn't spoiled(at least, I don't think I was), and I'm a cunt.


Clearly false, because if it were true I would like you.

You're a dick.


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#26
My wife and I used to live and old friend and we hated it. Mostly we had beef because the both of us were raised just above the poverty line and he was the baby brother of some rich parents. We didn't dislike him BECAUSE he was rich, we hated how oblivious to regular people struggles he was. He's 25, his parents bought him a condo and he has a credit card from them he puts his food and gas on, plus he's on their car insurance and phone plan. Dude has like no bills. Which, again, good for him, I'd like to have that as well, can't fault him.

What we'd get irritated with is he'd assume folks had money like him. He'd buy tickets to a concert and then buy a new video game then go out to eat. Sometimes we'd join and buy tickets and go to dinner, too, and he'd say stuff like "I just don't understand how people don't keep enough money aside to do fun stuff like this!" and my wife and I would have to bit our tongues because we just spent all our extra cash until the next paycheck on dinner and tickets, so we'd be shut-ins for the next week while we watched him go around and do stuff.

What we have learned is that growing up spoiled severely stunts your ability to be self aware. It's really not his fault that he hasn't had to deal with bills, or known the stress of waiting for your paycheck to to spend it all on rent immediately. However, it's completely disabled him from being empathetic to anyone who has financial struggles. The guy honestly believes that he has earned what it is he has, which is about 25% true. My wife and I both qualified for government assistance until recently (we didn't want to take it because we knew more folks were worse off, but that's another discussion), and I'm busting my ass to get a second degree in a more profitable job field, and I have to keep resigning contracts with the national guard just so I can afford education and healthcare... and after all that I realize I'm still in a better spot than 80% of my peers. He's never understood that struggle, therefore he's lost a TON of friends because he can't relate. He thinks he's "leaving them behind because they can't manage their money." He's said this to me, but really they just stop going with him to stuff.

I'm a little afraid for the guy. His parents are both in their 60's, and most of his family dies in their late 60's from trends of his grandparents and uncles (they're not that healthy, all smokers and heavy drinkers). He's never lived without a safety net so it's going to be very precarious when it drops from under him. Knowing my wife and I we'll probably help him out, begrudgingly.

/roommate rant
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#27
isn't this kind of an asinine question? of course it would?

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#28
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isn't this kind of an asinine question? of course it would?


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#29
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Clearly false, because if it were true I would like you.

You're a dick.



Better a dick than a... git.

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#30
Most spoiled thing I did was have my mom drive me to Best Buy (FAR) when she had a migraine so I could get Halo 2.
#31
of course lol. this is like clinically proven and thousands upon thousands of pieces of literature have been written on the subject.
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#32
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Better a dick than a... git.

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#33
For the most part my siblings and I had to save up money if we wanted something growing up. We always knew the value of a dollar or whatever. If we did want something that we couldn't afford my parents always made sure we did something to earn it. We did get a lot at Christmas and birthdays for the most part, but if one of us acted like a spoiled ungrateful brat (which we probably all did at one point or another) it would NOT go over well. They always made sure we knew we had it fairly good and not to take it for granted.

Both of my parents were one of eight children in working class homes growing up so they always said they wanted our lives to be nicer than theirs were. I'll probably do the same with my own kids whenever that happens.

I don't think it's good to spoil them, but I also knew people who's parents were just kind of jerks, and were extreme in the other direction. There's always a good middle ground.

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Agreed. Giving a kid the stuff he/she wants or asks for isn't inherently bad, but it's always going to be necessary to actually parent the kid as well.
When I asked my dad for a pedal kart, he did in fact make sure I got one, but he did so by building me one himself (and letting me help). Not only did I get my pedal kart, but I also learned some stuff and had a great day with my dad. And in doing stuff like this (my mom did similar stuff), my parents also showed me that the expensive stuff other kids had wasn't the only way to have a good time, so I ended up asking for less stuff.
Also did this. Built one of my bikes, and it was fucking awesome.
#35
This is the most poorly-considered nature-vs-nurture thread OP EVER
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#37

Clearly yes.
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#38
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Clearly yes.


good post

Spoiled kids make for entitled dicks in later life, the kind that never heard the word "no" and wants everything their way and throws a tantrum when they don't get what they want
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#39
I'm not sure the tories are entitled dicks so much as they're utterly malicious.

The queen on the other hand...
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#40
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This, also. Isn't it annoying when people go on about how hard they've worked and how they judge everyone else for not working so hard? It's almost like they resent other people for not struggling.


in my experience, with these type of people once you find out their actual background they never legit struggled in the way they make it out to be. so many times I have heard 'fuck you I work for a living' etc. (as if nobody else does lol) from someone who thinks because they didn't get everything they want that they are severely disadvantaged and that everyone around them is just lazy and stupid and they go off on this 'humanity is shit' bs. actual struggling people are less likely to act that way ime at least.

not that I'm trying to marginalise people's problems but I think you know the type I'm talking about.
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