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#1
Why do people think it's okay to call babies he or she? They can't speak yet so they can't say their preferred gender.

Please refer to them as babyself or toddlerself until they can say their pronoun preference otherwise you're ableist and transphobic.


Stupid tweets but should we call babies different pronouns until they can decide whether they are a boy or girl? Or is that far too long to wait and we could be giving a lot more people problems?

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#2
This is the same kinda person who wonders if their dog has a gluten allergy.
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#3
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#4
Why do people think it's okay to be insufferable cunts?
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#10
Idk I think in the ideal society "they" would be a fine pronoun to refer to infants I don't get why people object to gender neutral pronouns so much
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Idk I think in the ideal society "they" would be a fine pronoun to refer to infants I don't get why people object to gender neutral pronouns so much


It's a bit impersonal isn't it

Like what you call a cat or a dog when you don't know it's gender

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#14
Though there are many pronouns that some may view as questionable (I am indifferent), I do find it strange that we, to quote some other fuck on Twitter, "color-code our infants so that strangers know what their genitals look like". Our gender norms are a little weird to say the least and I can understand why people may take issue with parents immediately going "oh, no, she can't play with the toy soldiers, only Barbies for her!" and other such absolute sweaty ball bags.

obv that's different to pronouns but that's a discussion I cannot be fucked to have.
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#15
They is so impersonal. I don't know any parent who would want to call their child that. Plus it's like, the chance that they aren't going to identify to what matches their genitals is so small it makes it kind of silly.
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#16
Call your child xir and xirself.
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#17
I was gonna go for xem and xemself.

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#18
ffs

what about our pets? how do i know that my dog has decided it wants to be a female and not a male?
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#19
some female dogs have tried to hump my leg before

i fucked them
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#21
What if your child identifies as trans-age? "Babyself" and "Toddlerself" are inappropriate terms for an old person in a young person's body. Think before you label people.
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some female dogs have tried to hump my leg before

i fucked them


yeah, female dogs actually hump stuff too

learnt that first hand
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What if your child identifies as trans-age? "Babyself" and "Toddlerself" are inappropriate terms for an old person in a young person's body. Think before you label people.
Eat a book, shitlord.

tfw I've brought this up and the shitlords closed it.
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#26
To sum up my reaction to that quote:

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#27
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yeah nah, they can be a "he" or a "she" until they're like "hey man, i don't want to be a he, i want to be a she" and i can be like "ok"


this completely

we should go around calling everyone "it" and opening with "hello, nice to meet you, what gender do you identify with?" upon first meeting somebody just so we don't offend tumblr
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"color-code our infants so that strangers know what their genitals look like".

these people are silly. genitals are a trait of sex not gender.
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this completely

we should go around calling everyone "it" and opening with "hello, nice to meet you, what gender do you identify with?" upon first meeting somebody just so we don't offend tumblr

i also identify as scottish. just fyi to everyone
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these people are silly. genitals are a trait of sex not gender.
and colours are arbitrarily assigned to those sexes

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#32
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yeah nah, they can be a "he" or a "she" until they're like "hey man, i don't want to be a he, i want to be a she" and i can be like "ok"

this

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#34
Since the overwhelming majority of people aren't transgender, using gender-neutral pronouns until they are old enough to "decide" or whatever would be absolutely ridiculous.

Also anytime someone uses one of those stupid "self" pronoun things I wonder if I should laugh or shudder in despair at the state of the world we live in.

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#35
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Idk I think in the ideal society "they" would be a fine pronoun to refer to infants I don't get why people object to gender neutral pronouns so much


because right now singular they is usually reserved for when gender is unknown i.e. people we don't know. that's what makes it 'impersonal'. that will probably change over time tbh.
#36
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Idk I think in the ideal society "they" would be a fine pronoun to refer to infants I don't get why people object to gender neutral pronouns so much


Agreed. I ignore the idea of pronouns and just say "them/they're/they."
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#38
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what about our pets? how do i know that my dog has decided it wants to be a female and not a male?

dogs don't have a concept of self you're on some sideman ting m8

also lyle your threads are rubbish

Also Sestra is right and serious there is literally no issue with "they" whatsoever

Although personally I like in German how it follows grammatical gender so "Kind" and "Baby" both take the equivalent of "it" because for real children aren't people
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#39
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Idk I think in the ideal society "they" would be a fine pronoun to refer to infants I don't get why people object to gender neutral pronouns so much

"They" is plural.

grammar over social justice any day

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#40
The gender-neutral suggestions would work a lot better is dumbass people didn't think of such dumbass suggestions instead of easy and intuitive stuff like "they"

It is really easy to call a baby "they" or "the baby" or their name or "little one" or seriously any pet name you could possibly think of. Why the fuck are people suggesting things like "babyself"?

I once read a chart of gender-neutral names for your partner and for some reason it listed "babefriend" and "datefriend" as options. Can't one just say "date" or "babe" or "friend" or "lover"? There were only 7 or so suggestions so having two really shitty ones is quite the percentage. Any pet name would work for a partner. Even fucking "partner" works for partner and that's what I call my husband most of the time, unless I am trying to win over an old Southern lady in which case I say "mah husbind" in as thick of a country accent as I can.

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