#1
Hi, everyone. I would appreciate it if you could help me find an amp for a friend of a mine.

Price range: $200-$300

What he plays is mostly alternative rock, classic rock, pop/rock and the occasional metal bands like Dream Theater, Metallica, and Iron Maiden. So high distortion is not a priority.

We were thinking that getting a Vox vt 40 or vt20 would be a good idea. Although he's not too sure if the vt20 would be loud enough if he ever needs to play casually with other musicians (including a drummer).

What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance.
#2
Peavey Vypyrs would be worth a look too.

Personally, with budget level modelers, I find that the size of the speaker has more to do with sounding good than wattage.

I would try to get one with a 12" speaker.
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#3
I read that Vypyrs are too digital sounding. Is there any merit to this claim? For that reason, I would like to look into other options...
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#4
I'd say VT40+ sounds loud, clean and way better option than VT20. In terms of volume and clear sound at higher pitches
#5
Vypyrs are some of the best modellers out there right now. Mustang isn't bad either but not really my thing.
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I read that Vypyrs are too digital sounding. Is there any merit to this claim? For that reason, I would like to look into other options...


I don't really think they are any more digital sounding than the other modelers on the market in that price range.

I haven't had a ton of time on either, other than when I was teaching lessons at a shop, which had a both, i preferred the vypyr over the vox when I was teaching.
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#9
The modelling in a Vyper is done with analog SS tech, they aren't digital. Well the effects are but you don't have to use those.
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#10
$300 is easily enough for a Fender Super Champ XD, probably a Blues Jr and maybe even an HRD, on the used market. For $300, you can do much better than the Mustang amp (which imo is inferior to the Valvetronix, Vyper and Roland Cube).
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$300 is easily enough for a Fender Super Champ XD, probably a Blues Jr and maybe even an HRD, on the used market. For $300, you can do much better than the Mustang amp (which imo is inferior to the Valvetronix, Vyper and Roland Cube).


^^ This! All of the listed small cheap amps really sound pretty good to my ears. Pick one and go.
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#12
Avoid the HRD at all costs. Drive channel is actually just a family of geese shouting into a microphone.

You could also look for a used Egnater Tweaker. Or if you can stretch the budget a bit a Rebel 20 would be pretty nifty.
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#14
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Avoid the HRD at all costs.


Nonsense. The HRD is a pretty awesome amp used by pros around the world. Adding an OD pedal in front brings out lovely classic rock gain also. Just because every knob on the amp is not useful doesn't mean you throw it away. Put some duct tape over that drive channel if it frightens you too much. Lots of knobs on amps from Fender, Mesa, Marshall, Roland, and Peavey that I never use. They are still great amps.
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#15
The dude is looking for Dream Theater, Metallica, and Iron Maiden type stuff. The HRD is not even close to being able to pull that off. The drive channel doesn't scare me...? It's just terrible. The HRD is average at best, but it does take pedals well. It will not do prog and thrash though, not without some major pedals up front.

I will concede that it does sound alright with the clean channel on the verge of breakup, but it's got to be obscenely loud. It is a Fender after all.
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The dude is looking for Dream Theater, Metallica, and Iron Maiden type stuff. The HRD is not even close to being able to pull that off. The drive channel doesn't scare me...? It's just terrible. The HRD is average at best, but it does take pedals well. It will not do prog and thrash though, not without some major pedals up front.

I will concede that it does sound alright with the clean channel on the verge of breakup, but it's got to be obscenely loud. It is a Fender after all.


To each his own regarding musical taste. There is a reason the HRD is the most gigged amp ever produced.

Negative on the OP musical interests though:

"What he plays is mostly alternative rock, classic rock, pop/rock and the occasional metal bands like Dream Theater, Metallica, and Iron Maiden. So high distortion is not a priority."
"Your sound is in your hands as much as anything. It's the way you pick, and the way you hold the guitar, more than it is the amp or the guitar you use." -- Stevie Ray Vaughan

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#17
Okay yeah wow I missed that completely, that's my bad. I find it hard to believe the HRD is the most gigged amp ever produced though seeing as its only been around since '95. The actual Deluxe? That I can see.

EDIT: now that I know what he's actually playing (what's reading comprehension ) I'll absolutely second the Blues Jr. Those things sing pretty great. XD would be alright but the Jr would probably fit better.
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#18
The Mustang III (v2) is a great amp, particularly once you get past the learning curve! The magic is in custom configuring the Advanced Amp deep Page 2 Amp Button features! Once you set up the Sag, Bias, Noise Gate, Cabinet Simulation, and other advanced features the Amp transforms! Too many people never discover this and dismiss the Mustang. I don't recollect if any of the 100 default presets had any of these Advanced Amp features customized.

I've seen the Mustang III (v2) new, when marked down and on sale, at Guitar Center, as low as $249!
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