#1
I am looking for info and thoughts on EPI Les Paul's. I am looking to add one to my collection but before I do....looking for info on spec's and years.

So please if you are a LP player chime in. I currently have all Ibanez because I really like the Wizard III neck for the wide nut and thin profile, Are there years and models of the EPI LP that has a thinner neck and wider nut profiles? looking to spend around $500-$700. (think that Gibson are out of reach)

What years and country builds are better?
#2
Which Epiphone Les Paul do you want to know about?
What years and country builds are better?

These days, the vast majority of Epiphones are made in China and a couple of the same Chinese models are made in Indonesia seemingly at random. Korean-made Epiphones are more rare these days and again, seem quite randomly dispersed. Both low end and high end models of Epiphones are usually Chinese made, except for the Elitists. But Les Paul Elitists were discontinued years ago.

They're a lot more consistently made than they used to be when they were made in Korea.
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#3
Hmm ok thanks, all my Ibanez have active pickups, either EMGs or Blackouts, I am wanting to get into Blues and the LP seems like a logical choice with some good passive pickups. I am mostly worried about the neck girth, I don't want to be holding a baseball bat, I use to own a Epi Zack Wylde LP and the neck was a baseball bat, not a fan or maybe I am missing something!
#4
If you want to get an LP because you want to play on a guitar with lower output pickups, then why not do that on one of your current guitars? What necessitates getting an LP to play blues? I know people can always buy guitars because they simply want to and there's nothing wrong with that. But replacing the pickups in one of your own guitars where know you like how the guitar feels might not be something you've considered yet and it makes quite a bit of sense.

I'd suggest trying out a load of LP's and see what you think. I wouldn't say that Epiphones generally don't have particularly thick neck, at least not the ones with the 60's slimtaper necks. They're just averagely sized. You may just be too used to playing Wizard III's that anything slightly different feels completely alien.
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#5
Sure point taken, I would swap out pick-ups but each Ibanez is setup for different tunings and is easier grabbing a new guitar with the tuning that I want then have to go from a drop-D to a Drop-B.

Ibanez MTM1 - Drop B
Ibanez MTM2 - Drop C
Ibanez IronLabel - Drop A
Ibanez Ibanez RGT6EXFX - Standard/Drop D

That is why I have not swapped out pickups, I want to have different setups that I can just grab and play and not have to hassle with.

Reason that I am looking at LP's is that it what I guess I associate to blues in my head, also not a Fender fan that is why I am going that route.
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#6
While there is nothing wrong with them, honestly, you might be better served with something other than an Epiphone- or an LP- given some of what I've read.

We know you seem to want passive pickups and an LP body (but not why). And that you prefer slender necks with wide nuts over "bats", but tell us more about what you want. Details help us help you!
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#7
Well in all honesty I am not sure, I have been playing heavy for so long I want to branch out and expand my abilities, not sure why but I have started listening to B. Gibbons, saw him on the an episode of Darryl's House and made me want to get into some of that gritty sounding blues.

I just know that when I first started playing I found it hard to play necks that were 42mm and smaller, I have large hands and long fingers, the wider nut made it easier to fret. I picked up a Ibanez and have loved the wide thin necks ever since and I'll troll around Pawn shops and GC and nothing else feels good but I want something else.
#8
OK- your neck preference seems pretty set, and is sensible: comfort is key.

What about body shape? Why the LP in particular? Blues gets played on SGs, Vs, Teles, Strats, semihollows...pretty much anything.

Also, Fender isn't the only Strat maker. Is your dislike of Strats about Strats or about Fender? Or does it go back to your neck preference? For example, Fernandes' Retrorocket Pro has the kind of neck you like. (Not sure if the pickups on that model would suit your purposes, just showing you an example.)

http://www.fernandesguitars.com/retrorocket/retrorocket-pro.html
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#9
Well want to get away from the double wing...but if I could find a neck in a Fender....no biggie. Someone suggested looking at SG's

But also I keep the idea if I don't like it I can always drop actives in the guitar and LP would be an easy cross over
#10
Well, actives come in all sizes, but of course, they're not a simple drop in swap- you'd probably have to change the pots, too.
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#12
You can buy a used Gibson SG special for $500-$700
There's always a few on Reverb in that price range; check Craigslist, too. They're excellent guitars at secondary market pricing.
#13
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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#14
This great guy thanks for the links, when I finally find something I'll update the thread with pics!
#15
Don't just go by those links- those are primarily for guidance. Think through what your needs, wants & desires are.

Shop around & try stuff out, but have as clear a goal in mind as you can when you do. If nothing else, the same stuff- or better- may be available on websites besides eBay, like Guitar Center, Reverb.com, Elderly, etc. And sometimes for less, sometimes for more. Shop around.

Is there someone out there you want to emulate tonally or stylistically?
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#16
Epiphone Les Paul Tribute Plus. It has gibson piuckups and mahogany body - so it's basically a gibson.
#17
+1 on the Epi Tribute Plus. Those Gibson 57 pickups on the Tribute are really good. Watch out if you are buying one on Ebay. Some sellers are replacing the Gibson 57 pups with other pickups then selling the 57 Classics separately.
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#18
I agree with Danny I have an Epi G400 and it has a nice wide fretboard, wider feeling than any Epi LP I have tried
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#19
Here's a Rig Rundown with Gary Clark, Jr. that may be enlightening to you. First, he's a pro using Epiphone Casinos (most are stock). Second, he and his tech talk about his use of Teles, Strats, and a Gibson SG addition to those Epis.

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23267-rig-rundown-gary-clark-jr
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