#1
So i just scored myself a new Kramer and it hauls ass, So now i am going to buy myself a new amp :P

I like a whole lot of 80s stuff such as Van Halen, Whitesnake, Poison Etc aswell as the newer slash stuff with Myles kennedy etc. i also like the modern metal like trivium, and a few metalcore bands that i know the 6505 is highly respected for. I am just looking for amp to suit my needs and am looking for your input. ny recommendations and advice would be highly appreciated. Right now im lookin gat the 6505 and the jvm210.

I love satchel from steel panthers tone as well as Eddie Van Halens tone.
#2
JCM2000 DSL100 over a JVM, but if your playing more 8stuff that is 6505 bands then that might be the one for you
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#3
you may want to look at an EVH amp as well. will be able to do all that you want.
#4
If you're looking at combos, I'd say a JVM but if it's a head go with Rob's suggestion of JCM2000.
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#5
You'll have to decide what wattage and size you need. The 6505 and the JVM come as combos, as well, there's also the DSL40C which boosted can probably take care of the whole range of tones.

Traynor YCV50B is often overlooked and that is a great Marshall flavor amp that with a boost will cover all the territory, probably do better at the more hard rock part of your repertoier than the other two suggested above.

Mesa Express 5:25 will also do great job at the whole range, might need a bit of a boost for the extreme thrashy stuff.
#6
Quote by monwobobbo
you may want to look at an EVH amp as well. will be able to do all that you want.

Good suggestion
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#7
Would the 6505 be able to pull off the 80s hair metal stuff? I was looking at the evh5150 50w but it will be 1100 new instead of around 650 for a head an cab over here like the jvm/6505. I live in Ireland and the second hand market really isn't great.
#8
Go try a 6505, to me it is way to modern to do a proper 80's tone. It will work, but not what I'd want from what you described
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#9
Quote by jakemcgovern21
Would the 6505 be able to pull off the 80s hair metal stuff? I was looking at the evh5150 50w but it will be 1100 new instead of around 650 for a head an cab over here like the jvm/6505. I live in Ireland and the second hand market really isn't great.


The green channel with the crunch switch engaged, gain high, and boosted by a Boss SD-1 or variant will get there. My experience is mostly with the 6505+ rhythm channel though; not sure how much different the regular 6505's rhythm channel is. At least on my +, the rhythm channel sounds pretty "Marshally," while the lead channel is much more on the modern metal spectrum. Oddly enough, I tend to favor the rhythm channel for actual lead playing, while I use the lead channel mostly for metal rhythm. The rhythm channel has more of a "singing" sound to the leads.

Considering what you're after though, I think the JVM would serve you better overall.
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#11
That's completely up to you, I personally prefer the 210.
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#12
Quote by jakemcgovern21
Im leaning towards the jvm now... is the 410H really worth all the extra money?


I own the 410h (also live in Ireland too!) I only ever use the clean and OD1 channels. If the 210 was around when the JVM first came about I would have gone for it instead. It depends on how many options you really want! I throw a 10 band eq in the loop for more agressive/less british metal tones. Been using the JVM since 2008 and still pretty happy with it!
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#13
First other Irishman i have met on the forum! nice to meet ya thanks for the input i have found a 210 i could possible pick up for 450 which isn't too bad and a 6505plus and cab for 650. got to really choose soon :/ really love the Van Halen lead tone
#14
Quote by jakemcgovern21
First other Irishman i have met on the forum! nice to meet ya thanks for the input i have found a 210 i could possible pick up for 450 which isn't too bad and a 6505plus and cab for 650. got to really choose soon :/ really love the Van Halen lead tone

If you love evh's lead tone I'd go for the 210, but, the way you play determines how you sound quite a bit, I had to learn the first 4 Van Halen albums for a cover band with a crappy line 6 spyder, but when I finished the way I played sounded a lot more like evh than I did before, even though I was using a digital amp with built in phaser and delay.
#15
Quote by dementiacaptain
That's completely up to you, I personally prefer the 210.

And my old guitarist had a JVM 210 and I thought it sucked compared to my JCM DSL100
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#16
Quote by Robbgnarly
And my old guitarist had a JVM 210 and I thought it sucked compared to my JCM DSL100


Well we weren't talking about the DSL I haven't spent enough time with both to say for sure, but at first playing the DSL gives what I want a lot easier. I think I'd agree with you but I don't know for certain.
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#17
Quote by dementiacaptain
Well we weren't talking about the DSL I haven't spent enough time with both to say for sure, but at first playing the DSL gives what I want a lot easier. I think I'd agree with you but I don't know for certain.

I was
I also know he used G12T75's and I use V1216's or G12h30's so I know that makes a difference.
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#18
It may be weird but I HATE Marshalls with T75s. It just sucks all the balls out and makes them sound like a mess.
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#19
Quote by dementiacaptain
It may be weird but I HATE Marshalls with T75s. It just sucks all the balls out and makes them sound like a mess.

Yeah with V30's they are pretty nice, but I prefer the V12's or G12h30's with a marshall. Actually my Krank 1980 sounds good through them also.
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#20
Go play both if you can. I'd recommend the 6505+ over the 6505. You get separate channel EQ's and the Crunch button is foot switchable. You're going to spend a ton of time on the green Rhythm channel.

The normal boost and EQ would help. Or hell just dial in a clean channel and kick on a RAT for some of those tones.
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#21
marshall jvm i have played them quite a few time, i didn't like them.

i would take a DSL over a JVM.

6505/6505+ are fine amps, but i always seem to get more modern tones out of them than old EVH tones. i had a 6505 head for a very short while (flipped it), but i liked it. however, i would take a DSL over it for classic EVH tones.
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#22
You're in Europe, look at the 50 watt Jet city head. Hell, even the 100HDM. Should be nice with an OD
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#23
The JVM is the biggest disappointment I ever encountered in amp land. For me, there is nothing good about that amp. This is an easy choice my friend: get the 5150 or the 5150 III
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#24
For what you want?

Neither. Find a Marshall JCM900 SLX and a tubescreamer. That's gonna be PLENTY of gain and will be tonally in between the 80s stuff and the more modern stuff.

The JVM is FAR too modern for the 80s stuff IME and the 6505 just straight up sucks at anything other than modern metal for me.
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#25
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I do like the jvm but for the price and all that...meh t the 5150/6505 series can easily do what you want. the green channel with crunch on is a beastly tone. u use a compressor to "boost" mine and I like it more than a traditional t/s style pedal. give it a shot

I played the 50w 5150iii last night and it is a straight up beast. no boosting no nothing needed whatsoever. check that out too
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