#1
Hi everyone,

I've been looking at gauges for my new Dean Z79 which is 24.75" tuned to drop c (C,G,C,F,A,D).

I have been using:

http://www.mcdonaldstrings.com/stringxxiii.html

and

http://stringtensionpro.com/

...but they vary wildly with the tensions. This is what I'm getting from the numbers:

String tension pro
10 - D - 12.13 lbs
14 - A - 13.34 lbs
18 - F - 13.90 lbs
30 - C - 18.50 lbs
42 - G - 19.14 lbs
56 - C - 16.78 lbs (string tension pro recommends a 59 here, which felt awkward next to a 42, too big a jump)
TOTAL: 93.79 lbs

MPUSTC
10 - D - 12.23 lbs
14 - A - 13.22 lbs
18 - F - 14.61 lbs
30 - C - 19.73 lbs
42 - G - 21.30 lbs
56 - C - 17.60 lbs
TOTAL: 98.69 lbs

Now the lighter strings are similar, but the heavier strings have pretty large differences.

The strings on there at the moment (10,14,18,30,42,56) don't feel too bad, the bottom C doesn't feel a whole lot looser than the G next to it but the numbers suggest otherwise. Clearly it's not the most 'balanced' set but I don't really care about that, I've been playing on skinny top/heavy bottom sets for so long I couldn't even bend the high strings if they matched the tension of the lower ones.

Just interested to know which is the most accurate from others' experience. Thanks.
Last edited by samwillc at Nov 20, 2015,
#2
My guitar is the same size as yours and I tune to C Standard. From what I remember, the tension on all my strings is pretty close to 20 lbs a piece. I tend to prefer thicker, tighter strings than a lot of people though. (12-60 set)

The low C I use is a .060" with around like 19.2 lbs or something, but that's probably wrong for a few reasons (not really important here). Actually, I find the low C to bee a little loose sometimes- especially right after a string change.

Yeah... that's not very helpful. You can't expect these things to be totally accurate though.
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Last edited by JimDawson at Nov 20, 2015,
#3
I tried a 59 and a 60, I found them too thick though. The tension was good but awkward to play next to a 42. I think the problem is that when dropping one string an extra step compared to the rest, you end up having to jump up so many gauges to make the tension feel right that the string itself starts to feel wrong.

I don't think the 'one gauge up per every step dropped' is true at all. I've tried a few different scale lengths (24.75", 25,5", 26.5") with so many different sets of strings and custom sets and throughout I have found that dropping a step on the lower strings has way more impact than on the higher ones. The tension seems to just fall out so much quicker the lower you go on the thick strings.

According to stringtensionpro, a 12-60 set on a 24.75" at C standard (C,F,B♭,E♭,G,C) is:
0.0120 in. 13.86 lbs
0.0160 in. 13.83 lbs
0.0200 in. 13.62 lbs
0.0340 in. 18.21 lbs
0.0460 in. 17.88 lbs
0.0600 in. 17.41 lbs (16.78 on mine with a 56, also at C here)

To get 20lbs, I think you'd need to put an undersea cable on a 24.75" guitar.

All a matter of taste I guess
#4
Isn't the first site for acoustic strings? The wound ones are made from different materials to electrics.

Quote by samwillc
To get 20lbs, I think you'd need to put an undersea cable on a 24.75" guitar.

Well the higher the tension, the more a change in gauge will increase it.

For what it's worth, I had a Squier Jaguar - 24" scale length - that took (and, indeed, takes, though it's not mine anymore) a 12-54 set to get just over 20lb tension in standard tuning. For drop C it'd need something like 13-68 to do that, though.

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Yup.
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#5
TMI and paralysis by analysis.

Strings are $5 so put on a set of 11s and see if you like em. Still too loose? Try a set of 12s next time. Your fingers will know which ones are right for you.
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TMI and paralysis by analysis.

Strings are $5 so put on a set of 11s and see if you like em. Still too loose? Try a set of 12s next time. Your fingers will know which ones are right for you.


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#7
Quote by samwillc
According to stringtensionpro, a 12-60 set on a 24.75" at C standard (C,F,B♭,E♭,G,C) is:
0.0120 in. 13.86 lbs
0.0160 in. 13.83 lbs
0.0200 in. 13.62 lbs
0.0340 in. 18.21 lbs
0.0460 in. 17.88 lbs
0.0600 in. 17.41 lbs (16.78 on mine with a 56, also at C here)


I was using a string tension chart made by the manufacturers of my strings. But yeah, it's probably better to just go with what feels right to play.
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