#1
how come when someone writes a song in 4/4 time no one cares but when someong makes a song in 5/4 time everyone flips their shit! also what are the different time signatures used in Schism by Tool
#2
To answer the first question, 4/4 is by definition common time. Uncommon time signatures are more quickly acknowledged.
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#3
There are 5/4 songs that sound completely natural. It's all about how the rhythm is used. You can use an odd time signature to sound a bit weird or "exotic", or you can write a rhythm that sounds natural but just happens to follow an odd time signature.

Three 5/4 songs that come to my mind that sound natural are Take 5, Mission Impossible and this Finnish folk melody. You just don't pay attention to the time signature when you listen to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNz4zJobg58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWGeRgFa-hI


But the thing is, 4/4 is natural. It sounds even. It's harder to write stuff that doesn't sound weird in an odd time signature.
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#4
Band leader pulls aside bassist and drummer before gig.

Turns to bassist ... "I want you to play first two bars in 5/4. next three in 11/8, next three bars in 13/8, then settle on 4/4".

Turns to drummer ... "I want you to play 9/8 for the first five bars, and 6/4 for the next three bars, then settle ojn 4/4".

Both respond in horror ... " we can't do that ..."

Band leader ... "Why not? you did last night".
#5
The phone ringing tone is also in 5/4. At least where I live.

Ever since I made that realization, I can't ever listen to the phone ringing and not tap out the 5/4 signature.
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what are the different time signatures used in Schism by Tool

Sounds to me like alternating bars of 5/8 and 7/8.
#8
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The phone ringing tone is also in 5/4. At least where I live.
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Band leader pulls aside bassist and drummer before gig.

Turns to bassist ... "I want you to play first two bars in 5/4. next three in 11/8, next three bars in 13/8, then settle on 4/4".

Turns to drummer ... "I want you to play 9/8 for the first five bars, and 6/4 for the next three bars, then settle ojn 4/4".

Both respond in horror ... " we can't do that ..."

Band leader ... "Why not? you did last night".


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#10
Because odd time signatures like 5/4 and anything other than 3/4 and 4/4 are more complex, and are hard to harmonically resolve because the ear tends to naturally want to end on the 4. It creates suspense in the music and allows more melodic ideas to flow.
#11
I think it might have something to do with how "some" people want to kind of brag about playing, or even knowing that something is in a different time signature.

I don't play always play in odd time signatures, but when I do, I'll tell you about it.
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#13
Rhythms are either divided in 2 or 3. And because 5/4 is 2+3 or 3+2, it sounds uneven. It's "longer beat" + "shorter beat" or the other way around. But time signatures like 6/8 sound a lot more even - all (emphasized) beats are equal in length. You don't have the alteration between 2 and 3.
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#14
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Band leader pulls aside bassist and drummer before gig.
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I wonder if that was the conversation Roger Waters had w/ David Gilmore and Jeff Picaro when they were recording 'Mother'?