#1
Hey there! Would love to have a few thoughts about the first e-guitar ID like to buy. Budget is up to 1000€

First of all i have an VOX AC15 AMP, playing mostly british influenced indie rock, blues, (babyshambles , BB king, if UD like to for example.)

But now i need a guitar for that sweet AMP.
After alot of research i thought of getting the Epiphone Casino CH MIC. But alot of people telling me that i should wait for an elitist, which i can not afford.
So the alternative is a Casino blak and blu, which should be a an upgradet Casino (pu, bigsby, Building quality ) (currently MIK Casinos seems to be rare on the market)
Do you know anything further to the General Building quality of the newish MIC Casinos? Or especially the blak and blu?

Or do you think i should get a Gretsch G5622T, whichs seems to be a nice guitar 2, because its maybe more versatile because of the semi hollowbody?

Are these good guitars to Start playing electrical with? Or do i have to wait for more budget?

Would love to hear some opions! Thanks :-)
Last edited by Mindofalbion at Dec 15, 2015,
#2
Even though prices don't convert linearly because of things like VATs and simple availability, generally speaking, 1000€ should be enough to buy a pro-level instrument.

Based on your interest in the Epiphone or Gretsch, it looks like you want a semihollow guitar of some kind. I do like that Gary Clark Epi. It's a nice blues/rock guitar.

But in all honesty, I'm personally looking at the 3 pickup version of that Gretsch because of its pickups- they're going to be twangier than the ones in the Epi. I have a lot of guitars; few deliver that kind of sound. However, precisely because of those pickups, the Gretsch may not deliver the sound you want. Will you have a chance to try those guitars out?
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Dec 15, 2015,
#3
Hey thanks for answering. No i dont :-\. Was expecting that :-\ just loved that colour/
Ive heard that other options are probably a peerless songbird or Godin 5th. Ave.
But i dont like the colour of the peerless or the colour of the Gary Clark one :-( (but ive heard its much darker than on photos found online)
Id like to achieve Kind of a wooden, Resonant tone so i guess semi or full hollow will do the trick?
#4
The Godin 5th Avenue is a hell of a guitar line, but there are several models. Which were you thinking?

As for "wooden" tone, that sounds more to me like you want a good acoustic with a built-in pricup. I mean, hollowbodies sound more like acoustics than do semis or solids, generally, but not by much.
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Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#5
Kingpin I or II, maybe also the uptown but its pricey
Ah dang its hard to describe x) ive played a strat and a les Paul copy and they didnt fit me that good but i played some Kind of ES model right after, which i liked better that the strat or the les Paul copy.

E: prob. Was the dot!
Last edited by Mindofalbion at Dec 15, 2015,
#6
They make american strats that fit in that price range. For the style of music you're playing, it will work really well. I would Reccomend a HSS strat for more versatility. Getting a lower end MIK guitar would not be the best option for your budget and style.
#7
Quote by Mindofalbion
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After alot of research i thought of getting the Epiphone Casino CH MIC. But alot of people telling me that i should wait for an elitist, which i can not afford.
So the alternative is a Casino blak and blu, which should be a an upgradet Casino (pu, bigsby, Building quality ) (currently MIK Casinos seems to be rare on the market)
Do you know anything further to the General Building quality of the newish MIC Casinos? Or especially the blak and blu?



Currently many Cherry Casinos are made in Korea (factorycode 21 Unsung)
The Gary Clark model is not of better Building-Quality, though it has better pickups

Made in Japan Casinos (or similar models) can be had around 1000€.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-Epiphone-CASINO-Natural-Made-In-Japan-/301818157275?hash=item4645c398db:g:NkYAAOSwAYtWOz9S

http://www.ebay.com/itm/History-by-Fujigen-Small-Bodied-Semi-Acoustic-Made-in-Japan-Discontinued-336-339-/111801997027?hash=item1a07eb16e3:g:FUYAAOSwunJWEv6P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/History-by-Fujigen-Original-Semi-Acoustic-Made-in-Japan-Discontinued-Early-2000-/111729726811?hash=item1a039c555b:g:IkEAAOSwHnFVuYUk
Last edited by paruwi at Dec 15, 2015,
#8
Quote by KyleZamory
They make american strats that fit in that price range. For the style of music you're playing, it will work really well. I would Reccomend a HSS strat for more versatility. Getting a lower end MIK guitar would not be the best option for your budget and style.

Dude, he just said:
ive played a strat and a les Paul copy and they didnt fit me that good

Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#9
Since you've mentioned it, Mindofalbion, a Godin Kingpin II would be a good option. Well made, sounds great. If you can find one you can afford, an Uptown would be a killer.

On the lower end of the price scale, a Godin Richmond Belmont would be good. It is a solidbody, shaped somewhat like a Gibson/Epiphone SG (another good option, BTW). It has the shorter LP scale, but is a hardtail HSS guitar. They're discontinued, but used ones are not too hard to find...in the USA, at least.

If you can, you might also check out the semihollows and hollowbodies from Hagstrom, Ibanez Artcores, and one of my personal favorite brands, Reverend guitars. All offer good options in your price range.

Reverend, unfortunately for the purposes of availability, is still a small brand. That means you might not be able to try one in person...just like the first two guitars you'd considering. The earliest ones were made in the USA; their current production instruments are all South Korean made, and are very consistent- I have 4, covering 7 years of production. If you have any questions about them, ask me!
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Dec 15, 2015,
#10
The mention of the Godin Belmont reminded me of this version of the DBZ Imperial:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272052205242?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Dec 15, 2015,
#12
I know, I just posted that as an example. I have no idea who is selling it where overseas. Heck, it may even be a limited run, because it haven't seen many places selling DBZ guitars that have one.

Its a new model, and they just recently put it on their website.
http://www.guitarsbydiamond.com/catalog/product.php?id=imst14-swa
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Dec 15, 2015,
#13
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Dec 16, 2015,
#14
A new USA G&L Fallout is a hell of a guitar, and you'd probably enjoy it, but it costs over $1000.

However, the G&L Fallout Tribute could work for you. It is made in Indonesia, using many of the same parts as the USA model, so at @$500 new, they offer lot of guitar tones for the money. The bridge HB gets you rock & roll stuff, and the P90 in the neck gets you some beefier singlecoil tones. Plus, since the HB is splittable, you have some more singlecoil type tones on tap as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTHzrycPyHI&sns=em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9MKYvpDmoA&sns=em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS4b2E0kVTg&sns=em
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Dec 16, 2015,
#15
Woah hey dude. Im so impressed about all your suggestions and the effort u put in to help me!!!! Thank you alot!!! I first have to do a little bit of research of the guitars u mentioned
#16
Some of those are directly off my online watch lists.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#17
As you do your own research, you'll get a better idea of what is available near you.* when you figure THAT out, we can help you narrow things down within those brands.


* While I have no fear of ordering gear online- most of my gear has been- it is always better if you can get something close. You get to try it out, for one. And for another, there's less waiting!
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#18
I think you'll find a significant difference between the sound of a Gretsch and a Casino, primarilly due to the pickups as well as some aspects of the chambering. I own both a Gretsch and an Epi Sheraton and a Gibson 335. The 335 and Sheraton both have a very similar sound and response. The Gretsch is a far more distinctive sound than the other two. It just sounds fuller...a more "rounded" crisp, articulated tone. I would definately say you need to play one to get a feel for whether the sound fits your style of playing.