#1
Hello everybody

It's seem really hard to learn guitar..... I'm in the situation which is I don't know what to learn next. I can't take a guitar class for some reason.(Time, Money and Availability)

The lesson I've found on internet are not so interesting. Also, I can't play very well.
I can learn a song a day but it drain lots of energy.

It's been 1 year now that I've play guitar and I still made mistake.
The song I can play is Fade to black, For whom the bell tolls, Enter the sandman and some beatles + GnR songs. (I never finish any of these song except Fade to black and enter the sandman).

*sigh*
#2
If you don't want to play guitar, don't. No one is forcing you. Also, learning anything to proficiency is hard. If you give up when things get hard, then you won't get anywhere in life.
#3
Quote by GoldenGuitar
If you don't want to play guitar, don't. No one is forcing you. Also, learning anything to proficiency is hard. If you give up when things get hard, then you won't get anywhere in life.


Then I shouldn't stop learning.
I should play faster than this.
#4
No. 1 year is nothing. Somebody who has been playing for only one year shouldn't be able to play that well. Learning to play the guitar well takes many years. Don't expect yourself to become the next Kirk Hammett or James Hetfield in a year (neither of whom are even close to the most technical guitarists in the world). All of the guitarists you see playing in well known bands have been doing it for many many years. You can't expect yourself to become a pro in just a year.

Do you enjoy playing the guitar? Do you want to be a better guitarist? If yes, keep on practicing. But be realistic. Don't expect yourself to be able to play the solo of every Metallica song in a year. In five years? That's a realistic goal. That's perfectly doable. And it could be perfectly doable in less time if you just keep on practicing efficiently and regularly. Actually, Kirk Hammett had been playing for five or six years when he joined Metallica.

You can already play Enter Sandman and Fade to Black. Can you also play all the solos? If yes, that's actually pretty good. And even if you can't play all of the solos perfectly, there's nothing to worry about. Many guitarists can only play riffs and maybe some Nirvana solos when they have been playing for one year.


If you feel like you lack motivation but would like to continue playing, find somebody to play with.
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Just remember that there are no boring scales, just boring players.

Gear

Bach Stradivarius 37G
Charvel So Cal
Fender Dimension Bass
Hartke HyDrive 210c
Ibanez BL70
Laney VC30
Tokai TB48
Yamaha FG720S-12
Yamaha P115
Last edited by MaggaraMarine at Dec 22, 2015,
#5
If you don't want to play... well, don't. But if you want to then you just stop thinking about it and play. You'll get better eventually. Just learn a new song when you have finished one. And try to learn harder songs as you progress. You don't really need lessons or anything. Just play.
#6
Practice technique and warmup exercises before you start playing songs and you'll be flying in no time.
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#7
Play with people better than you, learn from them and play in bands.
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#8
Thats funny, those songs were some of the first I learned as well. Yes definitely keep playing, to answer your question. Keep learning and practice, practice, practice. Literally just be with your instrument as long as you can, as long as it feels good. And start studying the greats (Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Paul Gilbert, Randy Rhoads, Ect...), just watching them play will inspire you. Metallica's stuff is great to get your riffing tight, work towards Master of Puppets.

You're working on something that people value, and its just good 'ol fun when you start playing with other people. Which is my next point, start playing with other people ASAP. That will get you playing better, faster. Good luck!
#9
If you've been playing this long, you must be dedicated! Most people quit after day 3. I've played for just over 2 years and am only now breaking the skin on Megadeth songs. Work yourself to where you want to be.
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#10
You have to want it badly to ever really get good at it. Guitar is not for everybody and there is a reason we have golf courses all over the place.

PS: I stink at golf.
"Your sound is in your hands as much as anything. It's the way you pick, and the way you hold the guitar, more than it is the amp or the guitar you use." -- Stevie Ray Vaughan

"Anybody can play. The note is only 20 percent. The attitude of the motherfucker who plays it is 80 percent." -- Miles Davis

Guthrie on tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmohdG9lLqY
#11
Hold!!!!!! On!!!!
If you feel like letting go!
Don't stop searching , Your one step closer!
Don't stop searching , it's not over!
#12
I see no improvement after a year !!!

Anyway, thank for all this message. I should learn to play a new harder song.

Stairway to heaven my friend!
#13
So are you telling us you haven't learned anything during your first year of playing? So you could play exactly the same things the first time you picked up your guitar as you can now? You have learned a lot more than you may think. If you are able to learn to play new songs, you have definitely learned something. The more you know, the harder it is to notice progress, because it's not any more like "I can't play C major chord" - "I learned to play C major chord". After you have the basics down, it's more about developing the skills you already have.

Try this. Flip your guitar around and try to play it. Now flip it around again and see how much better you are. This is how much you have learned.

Just don't worry about not being great. Don't compare yourself to others. Learning stuff takes time. It takes years. And if you can already play Enter Sandman and Fade to Black, you are doing just fine. I wouldn't really expect somebody who has been playing for only one year to be able to play much else.

But if you are feeling down for not being a pro after a year, your expectations are way too high. You need to be realistic.

It's all about practicing. There is nothing wrong with you. Practice more and you will become better. Start playing with other people and you can have fun with your playing skills.


Also, "I still make mistakes"... Well, who doesn't? Everybody does. That's not something you will really ever get rid of. If you make a lot of mistakes, slow it down. You can learn from your mistakes. When you can correct a mistake, you have learned something new.
Quote by AlanHB
Just remember that there are no boring scales, just boring players.

Gear

Bach Stradivarius 37G
Charvel So Cal
Fender Dimension Bass
Hartke HyDrive 210c
Ibanez BL70
Laney VC30
Tokai TB48
Yamaha FG720S-12
Yamaha P115
Last edited by MaggaraMarine at Dec 23, 2015,
#14
life is long
maybe 1 year you are shit (like me)
maybe 2 year you are still shit
but what do u want to be like in 5 yr or 10 yr time?
just a nub who play video games badly?
or a guitarist of 10 yrs.
u only have 1 life
use it
#15
As well as thinking about learning songs, do you understand the skills used in these songs?

Understanding what you are playing is very important. Do you understand how to play power chords, open chords and barre chords?

From the songs you have listed you are already doing these skills, can you recognise which you are using?

By understanding the skills you already have it can help us suggest some songs for you to learn to keep progressing.
#16
Here is my 2 cents. I have been playing for 40 years and always in bands of various types. You need goals to keep you going. Mine has always been to play to an audience and work with other musicians who can show what my deficiencies are. For me it's all about playing live and getting positive audience feedback that pumps you up or negative feedback (or total indifference) that is a sign that you need more work on something or need a different direction. As far as playing with other musicians I would say that I progress much faster and learn more when I play with a keyboard player. When you work with a keyboard in the band you learn more about supporting each other and how to improve you interaction skills. When you just play at home it is all about you and you don't have to consider how your playing works (or doesn't) with other musicians.

I might suggest you start playing with a good cover band where you'll learn more than you ever could learn on your own. When you can just pick your own personal favorite groups and songs it feels OK because you are picking songs that fit comfortably in the style you already know but you won't improve your overall skill. You need to get out of the bubble and stop limiting yourself and explore other types of music.
Yes I am guitarded also, nice to meet you.
Last edited by Rickholly74 at Dec 29, 2015,
#17
Quote by Rickholly74
Here is my 2 cents. I have been playing for 40 years and always in bands of various types. You need goals to keep you going. Mine has always been to play to an audience and work with other musicians who can show what my deficiencies are. For me it's all about playing live and getting positive audience feedback that pumps you up or negative feedback (or total indifference) that is a sign that you need more work on something or need a different direction. As far as playing with other musicians I would say that I progress much faster and learn more when I play with a keyboard player. When you work with a keyboard in the band you learn more about supporting each other and how to improve you interaction skills. When you just play at home it is all about you and you don't have to consider how your playing works (or doesn't) with other musicians.

I might suggest you start playing with a good cover band where you'll learn more than you ever could learn on your own. When you can just pick your own personal favorite groups and songs it feels OK because you are picking songs that fit comfortably in the style you already know but you won't improve your overall skill. You need to get out of the bubble and stop limiting yourself and explore other types of music.

This is the perfect answer. I can relate to this.
#18
Do you really see no improvement after your first year of playing??
that's hard to believe.. I think that even if I didn't play guitar for a year I would still improve just from listening to music..
I think you should continues if you love's play the guitar.
You need some inspiring music to get you going that's always my motivation. Every now and then I get addicted to a song that Makes me want to play more..
Last edited by João1993 at Dec 29, 2015,
#19
Half the battle of learning guitar is getting over the bad patches and saying to yourself it'll get better and if you stick at it and practice it will get better it always does just take a lot of time and patience so keep on playing . Make the best friend you will ever have and as the song goes "I'm gonna play that thang till the day I die"
( riding with the king)...................................
#20
Hey,if you like it,keep at it. If you don't like playing the guitar,then don't.

If you do decide to keep on rocking though that's great! Learn songs,whole songs preferably and if you can't learn the solo for example,practice the required techniques and come back to it later!
Also,it might be best to try and avoid using tablature and start grinding those ears of yours instead,you'll develop a good ear and won't need to use the tabs as "crutches"

Basically ask yourself,how good do you want to be? What kind of level are you satisfied with? In my instance it'll be the my favourite band,to be able to play like Michael Romeo. For that I have to practice alot on,well,basically all guitar techniques. So,for you,what kind of practice/lessons do YOU need to do in order to play like x,y or z?

And as with everything,there's bad teachers and there is good teachers. Ben Higgins on youtube for example is a teacher I consider good. Look him up,see if you can learn something (if you're into metal). If you're not into metal you could look up PatDavidMusic on youtube,he goes into depth and does very thorough lessons on music theory. He's gold for that kind of thing.

And one thing you should do is to be critical of your playing,I feel like I have to quote Ben Higgins on this: "Right,if I'm playing like ass,sounds like ass,I'm playing like a knob,stop it". When I think about it,that's gonna' go in my sig.

Oh,and one final thing ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5Zwuodtemg

Good Luck!
#21
Quote by Oddly_Phrygian
Hey,if you like it,keep at it. If you don't like playing the guitar,then don't.

If you do decide to keep on rocking though that's great! Learn songs,whole songs preferably and if you can't learn the solo for example,practice the required techniques and come back to it later!
Also,it might be best to try and avoid using tablature and start grinding those ears of yours instead,you'll develop a good ear and won't need to use the tabs as "crutches"

Basically ask yourself,how good do you want to be? What kind of level are you satisfied with? In my instance it'll be the my favourite band,to be able to play like Michael Romeo. For that I have to practice alot on,well,basically all guitar techniques. So,for you,what kind of practice/lessons do YOU need to do in order to play like x,y or z?

And as with everything,there's bad teachers and there is good teachers. Ben Higgins on youtube for example is a teacher I consider good. Look him up,see if you can learn something (if you're into metal). If you're not into metal you could look up PatDavidMusic on youtube,he goes into depth and does very thorough lessons on music theory. He's gold for that kind of thing.

And one thing you should do is to be critical of your playing,I feel like I have to quote Ben Higgins on this: "Right,if I'm playing like ass,sounds like ass,I'm playing like a knob,stop it". When I think about it,that's gonna' go in my sig.

Oh,and one final thing ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5Zwuodtemg

Good Luck!

Wow, after watching that video i think im gonna crack open a can of monster energy and pull an all nighter on my guitar haha. Thanks for the motivation.
#22
Quote by J23L
Wow, after watching that video i think im gonna crack open a can of monster energy and pull an all nighter on my guitar haha. Thanks for the motivation.

Haha yeah. I know that feel. I've only watched that video two times in the last 5 months (the other being when I linked it yesterday) and it's like a nice kick in the balls. Like,that video has fueled me for months xD

Instead of creating a new topic (this one seems resolved) I have a very off topic question.

Has anyone here played until their fingers bled? This last week I played upwards of 4 hours+,each day, working with a backing track. Trying different things,mostly on the G,B and e strings. Which after just 2 days I had serious pain in my ring and middle finger with all the sliding and bending I did. To the point that NOW it looks as if I'm at the point where I'm this close *pinches fingers* to actually shed off my skin and start bleeding. On those two fingers I HAD calluses which was the usual grey and rough but now they seem to have gone away and the grey color has been replace with a bloody red lmao.

It hurt so much but the joy of playing and creating various tid bits of passages and music had me keep on going and ignoring the pain until I stopped playing,that's when the pain came flushing,haha.

Ever experienced that?

EDIT: Grammarz
Last edited by Oddly_Phrygian at Jan 10, 2016,
#23
Quote by Oddly_Phrygian
Haha yeah. I know that feel. I've only watched that video two times in the last 5 months (the other being when I linked it yesterday) and it's like a nice kick in the balls. Like,that video has fueled me for months xD

Instead of creating a new topic (this one seems resolved) I have a very off topic question.

Has anyone here played until their fingers bled? This last week I played upwards of 4 hours+,each day, working with a backing track. Trying different things,mostly on the G,B and e strings. Which after just 2 days I had serious pain in my ring and middle finger with all the sliding and bending I did. To the point that NOW it looks as if I'm at the point where I'm this close *pinches fingers* to actually shed off my skin and start bleeding. On those two fingers I HAD calluses which was the usual grey and rough but now they seem to have gone away and the grey color has been replace with a bloody red lmao.

It hurt so much but the joy of playing and creating various tid bits of passages and music had me keep on going and ignoring the pain until I stopped playing,that's when the pain came flushing,haha.

Ever experienced that?

EDIT: Grammarz


I once had internal bleedings on my fingers and my thumb's bones tendons or whatever hurt a lot..
now I'm used to practicing a lot so my fingers dont hurt.. the thumb thing however seems to come back every now and then
#24
You should quit. For now.

Find something that you enjoy doing. Not everyone is cut out for the guitar.

And, if you don't have time, and availability, put the guitar down for a season, until a better time in life comes along and you feel inspired to take it up.

Since you don't have money, private lessons with someone personally vested in seeing you progress, helping you avoid mistakes, and learn things the right way, is not an option for you, even if that would help.

The problems you have are common for someone that is self taught. A lot of stumbling, falling over themselves, and thats because its very hard to be both student and teacher at the same time on something that you arent familiar with. You don't know what to avoid, what wastses time, whats just bad advise, or what's poorly executed, and your results, pretty much show because of that. That's not a slam on you, it's just a hard way and a lot of time lost to find what works and what doesn't.

I wish you the best of luck, in whatever you do. If you decide to stay with the guitar you will only get as much as you are willing to invest into it. The same as everything else in life.

Best,

Sean

Quote by sosxradar
Hello everybody

It's seem really hard to learn guitar..... I'm in the situation which is I don't know what to learn next. I can't take a guitar class for some reason.(Time, Money and Availability)

The lesson I've found on internet are not so interesting. Also, I can't play very well.
I can learn a song a day but it drain lots of energy.

It's been 1 year now that I've play guitar and I still made mistake.
The song I can play is Fade to black, For whom the bell tolls, Enter the sandman and some beatles + GnR songs. (I never finish any of these song except Fade to black and enter the sandman).

*sigh*
#25
Quote by sosxradar
Hello everybody

It's seem really hard to learn guitar..... I'm in the situation which is I don't know what to learn next. I can't take a guitar class for some reason.(Time, Money and Availability)

The lesson I've found on internet are not so interesting. Also, I can't play very well.
I can learn a song a day but it drain lots of energy.

It's been 1 year now that I've play guitar and I still made mistake.
The song I can play is Fade to black, For whom the bell tolls, Enter the sandman and some beatles + GnR songs. (I never finish any of these song except Fade to black and enter the sandman).

*sigh*


Here is an article on what you should think before and during practice. Hope it helps

https://www.facebook.com/notes/robert-callus-guitar-lessons/attitude-towards-practice/1694030394174703

Mistakes? I've been playing for 21 years and still make mistakes while practicing. Which is good. You improve mostly from analysing your mistakes and correcting them.

Also, another possible cause for your frustration could be the fact that you're trying to learn songs that are too challenging for someone who's only been playing for one year.
#26
Quote by Robert Callus

Mistakes? I've been playing for 21 years and still make mistakes while practicing. Which is good. You improve mostly from analysing your mistakes and correcting them.

Also, another possible cause for your frustration could be the fact that you're trying to learn songs that are too challenging for someone who's only been playing for one year.


I agree with this. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Learn simpilar songs and learn them completely, not just parts you like.
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#27
If your goal is to be a literally perfect and flawless musician, then you will always be disappointed
#28
Perfection doesn't exist in anything, especially music. At least, not a universally agreed-upon concept of it Most anyone can do is "Awesome"

-Sharky
#29
Listen to new music. I was stuck in a singular genre for a long time, but as soon as I started to branch out, it was a moment of enlightenment, and I am now looking for new music every day. Give genres other than metal a shot. If you don't like them, no harm done. You may actually discover you like some other genres much better.

Also, if you are constantly whining about things, it's gonna make life a lot harder than it already is. I'm not being mean, but whining and feeling sorry for yourself is worse than useless. It's extremely detrimental and pisses off everyone around you.
#30
I remember going through that phase of just one selected genre and nothing else. It was awful. Total blanks on songs, not learning well on them, more sloppiness than good. As soon as I went for other genres, it was as if something damning awoke inside. I felt...happier and better ^_^ Still do and don't regret the decision one bit.

"Would you like some cheese to go with that intoxicating whine, my good sir?" heheheheh

-Sharky
#31
Quote by jlowe22
Listen to new music. I was stuck in a singular genre for a long time, but as soon as I started to branch out, it was a moment of enlightenment, and I am now looking for new music every day. Give genres other than metal a shot. If you don't like them, no harm done. You may actually discover you like some other genres much better.


This happened to me. I was deeply into Punk Rock, (which I still like) and listened only to punk and Punk related stuff. Thankfully a teacher told me that if I was listening only to that stuff, I would be able to play only that stuff which is very limiting. He started suggesting all sorts of music from progressive rock to blues and jazz and funk. Some I digged, some I didn't but today I love a variety of genres and borrow from all of them when playing.
#32
Quote by Robert Callus
This happened to me. I was deeply into Punk Rock, (which I still like) and listened only to punk and Punk related stuff. Thankfully a teacher told me that if I was listening only to that stuff, I would be able to play only that stuff which is very limiting. He started suggesting all sorts of music from progressive rock to blues and jazz and funk. Some I digged, some I didn't but today I love a variety of genres and borrow from all of them when playing.


Yes, its like going from painting in black and white, to painting with colors. I fully recommend everyone listen to as many styles as possible, some you will like, others hate, but at the end of the day, you'll be all the better.
#34
Never give up man. There's PLENTY of lessons out their on the internet, especially here on UG and on YouTube too!!!

Being able to play music is a gift, and you would be foolish to give it up simple because you still make mistakes one year in. Sure it takes time and effort to progress and build your skill, but it's one of the most rewarding things you can do!

Drop me a message if you'd like some tips and things on how you can progress, I'd be happy to help you out.
#37
+1 on revefunk. I have been training and instructing in martial arts for just over 20 years. I have seen a number of students come to classes for 6 months and want to quit because they are not the next Bruce Lee in that amount of time and all they have learned is very basic moves. Nothing of quality comes quickly or easily. As the famous Jimmy Dugan said, "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."
Yes I am guitarded also, nice to meet you.