#1
Little 30$ kit plus a few hours of work and it solves many of your volume related problems.

I also installed a Weber Copper Cap in place of the bridge rectifier and the combination makes my amp so much more fun to use.

#2
Great!


What the hell is VVR?
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Great if you know that it's an amp kit. The VVR acronym has multiple meanings.
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#5
Sorry.

It changes the DC voltage of the tube amp.
It's like a variac, but it doesn't screw up your heater voltages. It's an alternative to an attenuator, but you get a bigger volume reduction with less tone loss.
#6
Presumably, it works with a wide variety of amps, right?
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#7
yeah i have it in my 18 watt clone, it's very nice. not sure exactly how close it is to the cranked sound (the volume messes with your ears), but at worst it's a form of master volume which arguably sounds closer to power tube distortion than a regular master volume (which regulates gain in the preamp) normally does.

yeah for $30 if you can fit it yourself I'd say it's hard to go wrong.

^ not sure. i know with power scaling different types of amp classes and topologies (like push-pull etc.) require more involved installations which cost more. I'm not sure if it's the same for VVR.
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#8
i am not a fan of the copper cap. i got one a few years ago, and in comparison to a tube was rather atrocious.

whatever works for you though.
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#9
VVR maintains the relative bias points. It's cheap and simple in small cathode biased amps (like the 18 watt)

Above 50 watts and for fixed bias amps it gets a little more expensive and it's also more involved to install.

It's better than a master volume. You can actually get your power tubes to distort at living room volumes.
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#10
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#11
Huh? I get my 18W'ers to distort just fine in my living room without any of this power scaling bs.
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#12
Yeah but you're cathbard. Somehow you could get a 100 watt twin to do a Marshall crunch with intense saturation and completely controllable feedback with no additional noise at a volume quiet enough to hear your tv with no help from master volumes, pedals, noise gates, or any other gadgets. And when we look at you puzzled trying to figure out what you did, you'd just sigh and say that if you stand in the right spot and just use picking dynamics you can get any tone you want.

But it's not that easy for everyone.
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#13
It's like he's the punk Eric Johnson...
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#14
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Atomic Amplifire
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Boss GT-100


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#16
My penchant for loud is not a new development.
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#17
Quote by paul.housley.7
VVR maintains the relative bias points. It's cheap and simple in small cathode biased amps (like the 18 watt)

Above 50 watts and for fixed bias amps it gets a little more expensive and it's also more involved to install.

It's better than a master volume. You can actually get your power tubes to distort at living room volumes.


ah i think that's more or less the same for power scaling

i'm not sure i'd say it's better than a master volume- it depends on what you want. if you want power tube distortion at lower volumes then yeah it's better than a master volume. if you want modern high gain tones it's not.

EDIT: lol at cath
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#18
Okay I did something very embarrassing. I recorded a video.

https://youtu.be/zGW1Hkufa8A

TheQuailman suggested clips and - yeah - he's right. I should've posted clips.
This tells the story in under 60 seconds, if you can bear to listen to my playing. I'm afraid I spend more time learning about amp circuits than I spend practicing. I'm also going to copy the video description here so that you don't have to read about it on Youtube.

Bridge pickup - an EMG 81, Guitar volume and tone on 10 into a Zoom G3. I'm using a "twin" patch set completely clean with no effects. (Zoom forces you to use an amp model if you want to get a cab sim, and I wanted to have a cab sim) The amp is a 6V6 version of an 18 watt. I've got the tone set at 12 o'clock.

The VVR is set for maximum output and the volume control is set very low. To my ears it was just a bit louder than the television, but it's hard to hear that unless you're in the room with me. 6V6 tubes don't distort as readily as EL84s and you can hear that the amp sounds pretty clean.

In the video I'm adjusting the VVR downward at the same time as I'm adjusting the Amp volume upward. I'm trying to keep the sound levels relatively consistent as I go. At the end I've got the amp volume maxed and the VVR is about as low as it can go. I think it was a little bit louder in the room but it definitely sounds louder in the video.