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#1
I have come to a realization about myself and im interested in whether it applies to people in general. I barely like anything that i'm supposed to enjoy as a modern human. This goes for movies, books, games, art, sports, pretty much everything. For the most part they fail to engage me whatsoever. Music is the only thing that i feel gives me something on a deeper level than just an efficient way to waste time.

I have a theory that we use culture as a tool for socializing in our modern age. That it's not really about the shitty predictable movie but rather who you see it with. The crappy abstract art helps define the hipster who pretends to enjoy it as someone who is deep and intelligent.
This is atleast true for me. If you take the social feedback out i would not be very interested in 90% of the culture that i engage in. To put it simply i think what we truly appreciate is discussing culture rather than the experience of it.

Despite our innovations in technology we have not (IMO) invented anything that can even come close to sex, drugs and food. Things readily avaliable to primitive hunter gatherer societies.
#2
What's the fundamental difference between discussing and experiencing culture?


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#3
Also there's an overwhelming probability that you haven't even come close to being exposed to enough culture or reading enough about culture to make these claims.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#7
Jam, y u pretend to be slash, dis is confus

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#8
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What's the fundamental difference between discussing and experiencing culture?

Experiencing culture is more expensive.
#9
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Experiencing culture is more expensive.


true dat brohan
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#10
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Jam, y u pretend to be slash, dis is confus

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what are you talking about friend joe?

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Experiencing culture is more expensive.

touché


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#11
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yes

lol yea
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Despite our innovations in technology we have not (IMO) invented anything that can even come close to sex, drugs and food. Things readily avaliable to primitive hunter gatherer societies.

those are all part of culture
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#12
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Also there's an overwhelming probability that you haven't even come close to being exposed to enough culture or reading enough about culture to make these claims.
correct answer

You're not Roger Scruton, OP
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#13
do you get out much?
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#17
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What's the fundamental difference between discussing and experiencing culture?


I guess the discussion could be seen as a part of the experience. But does that make flamewars on IMDB a cultural event?

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Also there's an overwhelming probability that you haven't even come close to being exposed to enough culture or reading enough about culture to make these claims.


When does one become a blackbelt in culture? Will you be my sensei?

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lol yea

those are all part of culture


I would have thought they would be defined as nature rather. Culture obviously influences these things but it did not invent them. Maybe i should have specified that i meant modern technology based culture in the threadstart.

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Nein.
#18
Well tbh if you're talking about modern technological culture, I wouldn't put that in the same block as abstract expressionism. To me, modern culture as defined by technology is post 1970, and the internet culture starts for big around 1995. might it be more prudent to think of culture in regards to natural resources as the specific way in which a group or area treats those things? To quote Hume, "Art may make a suit of clothes, but nature must produce a man" - people from different areas will make different-looking suits, and their ideas as to how or why those suits are made will differ, too.

It may be worth reading up on modernism and structuralism, and then the Post-M/S therein. Not saying you'll find an answer to your questions, but you'll find some interesting ideas about identity and how we 'deal' with information and such.

I can sympathise with being sick of the poseur-culture surrounding art but that's less a problem with the progenitors of abstract and/or experimental art (or their followers) and more of brainless formalists and foundation-level art students immersed in postmodernism without any thought to their practice

and aesthetic blogs on tumblr they can fuck off too
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#19
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I guess the discussion could be seen as a part of the experience. But does that make flamewars on IMDB a cultural event?

Not sure what you're talking about but I'm absolutely positive that it doesn't matter.

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When does one become a blackbelt in culture?

Fuck if I know, google 'philosophy of culture' or some shit. I can't help you beyond recommending Žižek. Also get used to listening to / watching really obscure shit that noone else likes.

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Will you be my sensei?

Ewww, no.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#20
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#22


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#23


Zizek sure is one coke-addicted chinchilla
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#24
More than his apparent cocaine addiction I'm interested in what the hell happens to his tongue when he starts speaking in English. Why is it outside of his mouth so much of the time?

edit: I saw that. Good vid.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#25
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Jam, y u pretend to be slash, dis is confus

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Wait what? He's pretending to be me? That sonofabitch!
#26
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Zizek sure is one coke-addicted chinchilla


your sentence is redundant
all chinchillas are coke addicts

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#27
^idk I'd say cocker spaniels are jumpier

I edited to avoid derail but it looks like we're doing that anyway
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#29
^ fucking hell that's cute af



Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#31


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#32
wow is dan harmon like zizek's brother or cousin or something
it's all just coming back
it's all coming back

it's all coming back to me
#35
^lol
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South Carolina Gamecocks

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#36
But what's Žižek got to say about hipster phonies.
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#37
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Wait what? He's pretending to be me? That sonofabitch!



You're all in on it....

There is only one reasonable plan of action.

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#38
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You're all in on it....

There is only one reasonable plan of action.


it's all just coming back
it's all coming back

it's all coming back to me
#39
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But what's Žižek got to say about hipster phonies.
idk he's just amusing

but considering how seriously he takes things like Laibach and social conditioning, probably a lot
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#40
Chinchillas are one of the best things to ever exist
Eat your pheasant
Drink your wine
Your days are numbered, bourgeois swine!
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