#1
Hi All

I have a Bugera 333XL w/Infinium and it is very loud but it sounds great. It's too loud for my current living conditions. I have a guy who wants to trade even a Line 6 Spider HD100 and the foot switch. I was thinking about selling it out right and getting a jet City JCA22H. Something about Line 6 rubs me the wrong way, especially a preamp section that has only 2 tubes?? What would you do?


Any thoughts?


Thanks
#2
Do you gig or jam with friends? If you're just doing bedroom practice you might be better off with something like a POD and some headphones or studio monitor.

I definitely would not trade the bugera for anything spider from Line6. Line6 makes some decent stuff, but definitely not the spider series.
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#5
Quote by Will Lane
I would go with the JCA. Avoid the Spider.

Also, musical equipment is only loud if you set the volume up high.



I should have mentioned: I have the channel volume cranked up. The Master becomes super freaking sensitive. toooooo sensitive. need that channel volume cranked
#6
Put a volume pedal in the effects loop. You don't need another amp.

You may WANT another amp, but you don't need one.
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#8
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the JCA probably will be too loud as well. Also, the 333XL does a lot heavier stuff than the JCA can do AFAIK.
#9
Sell it, save up and get a modeler. If you want loud rocking, tube/amp tone, you're not going to get it from an amp in your bedroom. 10W Tube amp is massively loud and as you know tubes require volume up to sound their best.

If you are doing home recording mostly you should save for an AxeFX, trust me, I have one and their new AX8, I've owned many tube amps over the years...its as good and in many cases better.

If you can't afford an AxeFx ultra right now, get a Line6 HD PRO X, again with the plan to sell and get that AxeFX
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Quote by Dazzl1113
Sell it, save up and get a modeler. If you want loud rocking, tube/amp tone, you're not going to get it from an amp in your bedroom. 10W Tube amp is massively loud and as you know tubes require volume up to sound their best.

If you are doing home recording mostly you should save for an AxeFX, trust me, I have one and their new AX8, I've owned many tube amps over the years...its as good and in many cases better.

If you can't afford an AxeFx ultra right now, get a Line6 HD PRO X, again with the plan to sell and get that AxeFX


This is shit advice. The guy has a bugera, what makes you think he can or is willing to save up for something like the axefx? And as far as 10w being too loud, yeah, and so is 1/4 watt if it's cranked, but that's why these things have volume knobs.
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#11
Quote by Blick Fang
I should have mentioned: I have the channel volume cranked up. The Master becomes super freaking sensitive. toooooo sensitive. need that channel volume cranked


Why on earth do you want to do that? You kill the point of master volumes. Turn the channel volume down, WAY down and 333 becomes excellent bedroom amp.

You can bedroomify it more by pulling two outer power tubes away (and flip impedance down a notch) to half the wattage. Not because of volume (because wattage is irrelevant when it comes to finding a minimum usable volume) but to save on power tube costs.

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#12
^Are you sure you can do that on the Bugera Infiniums?

Blick Fang - what kind of music do you record?

I also agree that you have no reason running the channel volume wide open like that. To give you an example, on my Mesa Rectoverb I run my Gain at around 1 oclock, Channel Volume at 10 oclock and Master Volume at 9 oclock - and it is balls to the wall loud.

But manageable
#13
turn the channel volume down and get a OD pedal to use as a boost.

But if you want to get a smaller amp, what about the Laney IRT studio? It even has a headphone out. should get as heavy as you need
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#14
Quote by jtees4
but you might find the Jet City too loud for the bedroom too.


+1

EDIT: +1 on turning down the channel volumes and using an OD pedal as a boost
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#15
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
^Are you sure you can do that on the Bugera Infiniums?

Blick Fang - what kind of music do you record?

I also agree that you have no reason running the channel volume wide open like that. To give you an example, on my Mesa Rectoverb I run my Gain at around 1 oclock, Channel Volume at 10 oclock and Master Volume at 9 oclock - and it is balls to the wall loud.

But manageable


Good question. My Bugera is pre-infinium and I run it half power but Infinium might go apeshit when you pull power tubes out. This is something that you have to ask Bugera. But either way, still turn the channel volume down. 333 nor 333xl master volume is not PPIMV nor attenuator, cranking the channel volume is largely pointless.

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