#1
I am getting a new guitar. I play Indie/Alternative music, and I currently own a Squier Bullet Strat and a Fender Mustang II amp.

I chose a wide range of guitars, and I was wondering if someone would be able to compare the pros and cons of the guitars in this list, as I am not very knowledgeable on the subject: (It would be GREATLY appreciated)

http://www.fender.com/guitars/stratocaster/deluxe-lone-star-stratocaster/0145030300.html#q=lone+star&start=1

http://www.fender.com/guitars/stratocaster/standard-stratocaster/0144600580.html

http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/six-gun-iii/

http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/charger-hb/
Last edited by nate8olson at Jan 24, 2016,
#2
How much do want to spend?
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Understood- I waste money on amps*, too.

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#3
I would advise getting a good tube amp before spending that much money on a guitar.
If you are dead set on getting a new guitar I would get the Epiphone version of the SG (but a good one) or MiM Fender, use the money you saved on going towards a good tube amp THEN buy the sweet Gibsons and MiA Fenders.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#4
Quote by N1ghtmar3C1n3ma
I would advise getting a good tube amp before spending that much money on a guitar.
If you are dead set on getting a new guitar I would get the Epiphone version of the SG (but a good one) or MiM Fender, use the money you saved on going towards a good tube amp THEN buy the sweet Gibsons and MiA Fenders.

I don't think I have enough money to get another amp without trading in my Mustang, and I don't want to do that. Kind of in a pickle, since if I spend the money on an amp, I won't have enough for the guitar.
#6
Quote by nate8olson
I don't think I have enough money to get another amp without trading in my Mustang, and I don't want to do that. Kind of in a pickle, since if I spend the money on an amp, I won't have enough for the guitar.

But if you have $900 to spend on a guitar, you can buy a great tube amp for that money and still have some left over to go towards a new guitar.

A guitar like that will get wasted running through a modelling amp like the Mustang, it won't sound that much better, whereas a good tube amp will make your tone have a huge improvement.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#7
I agree.

As much as I'd like to help you find a nice guitar, I think you'd be better served prioritizing a new amp, and possibly spending the remnant of your $900 on a guitar...or waiting until you replenish your funds for guitar shopping.

For example, a Carvin V3M combo will give you plenty of tonal flexibility and power. At $600 new, could still afford a replacement guitar, or better, buy some pedals to replace the modeling of the Mustang.
http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/v3m-series/products/v3mc

In a similar vein, you should be able to find a used Vox AC15 or Carvin Belair for @$425-500.

https://reverb.com/item/1360962-carvin-112-nomad-2010-tweed
https://reverb.com/item/1118713-vox-ac15c1-2015-limited-edition-red-new
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 24, 2016,
#8
Ideally you want to be spending at least as much on your amp as your guitar. You can buy a lot of guitar with $400.

I would get a tube combo for ~$300 (Peavey Classic 30 comes to mind), upgrade the speaker and the first preamp tube, then spend the remainder on a MIM strat or whatever. You just got yourself a rig to be proud of, for $900.
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#10
If you're so hellbent on getting a guitar for indie/alt rock, get something like a MIM Tele or an Epi Les Paul Classic. Then with that leftover money buy a Bugera 333 tube amp, they're all over for real cheap. That would be a perfect set up
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#11
As for a guitar, let me recommend the Godin Richmond Belmont.*

I just bought one, after lusting over them for years. And I'm awaiting delivery of a second one I bought last week. They're discontinued, and used ones go between $350-600. Here's my NGD on the first one.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1694514

Here are some used ones I found in your price range.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Godin-Richmond-Belmont-Electric-Guitar-Black-/281914717647?hash=item41a36d35cf:g:Q7EAAOSwX~dWlok6

https://reverb.com/item/1183409-richmond-belmont-burgundy
https://reverb.com/item/1300302-godin-richmond-belmont-electric-guitar-black-transparent

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Godin-Richmond-BELMONT-LAURENTIAN-WHITE-High-Gloss-One-Of-A-Kind-/221989747340?hash=item33af9eba8c:g:tHcAAOSwZG9WkHDk

The only thing lacking on the Belmont (compared to most of the guitars you listed) is some form of trem. And there IS a version with a Bigsby, but there sill running @$850 or so.


* There are people reading this expecting me to say a Reverend _________, because I AM RevFan #1 around here, but I'm basing this rec on splitting your budget upgrading both your amp and your axe.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 25, 2016,
#12
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#13
I've got to side with the rest of the guys here. Something like a Vox AC15, a Fender Blues Junior or a Peavey Classic 30 would really fit the style you play nicely and leave you with enough money for a used Mexican Fender. Don't discount the Classic Vibe Squiers either. They're great bang for buck guitars.

If you're looking at an SG, Epiphone is the most obvious choice out there. I haven't played an Epi SG in a while, but the last ones I played did need a pickup change.

Also consider you already have a Strat and while I totally get you'd want something similar, something different might be nice as well. When I hear indie/alternative, I think of Telecasters and offset Fenders a lot as well. And of more niche stuff like Italia, but I'm not sure wether those would be in budget.
#14
As for Reverend (because you know I had to)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reverend-Flatroc-Electric-Guitar-w-Hardcase-/151949548236?hash=item2360e61acc:g:jt8AAOSwk1JWb0Ep

I have the 15th anniversary edition of this one, which adds a Bigsby trem and a flashier finish. Those RevTron miniHB pickups would get you a bit of a brighter, twangier tone than the HBs in most Revs-possibly a better core tone for your stated goals.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 25, 2016,
#16
Quote by dannyalcatraz
I agree.

As much as I'd like to help you find a nice guitar, I think you'd be better served prioritizing a new amp, and possibly spending the remnant of your $900 on a guitar...or waiting until you replenish your funds for guitar shopping.

For example, a Carvin V3M combo will give you plenty of tonal flexibility and power. At $600 new, could still afford a replacement guitar, or better, buy some pedals to replace the modeling of the Mustang.
http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/v3m-series/products/v3mc

In a similar vein, you should be able to find a used Vox AC15 or Carvin Belair for @$425-500.

https://reverb.com/item/1360962-carvin-112-nomad-2010-tweed
https://reverb.com/item/1118713-vox-ac15c1-2015-limited-edition-red-new


agree with this. I have that "little" amp and it's awesome. But...you'd need a speaker cab of some sort. The carvin 2x12 is like 250 bucks or so...just great.
#17
The V3M I linked to was a a combo with a 1x12.

Are you saying you think he'd need a better cab than that? If so, the current sale has the head & 2x12 for just $150 more than the 1x12 combo.

http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/v3m-series/products/v3m212s
http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/v3m-series/products/v3m212-g
http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/v3m-series/products/v3m212

Personally, given the budget and the desire to upgrade the guitar, I'd go for the combo unless there's a pressing need to sound better playing live in a band.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 25, 2016,
#18
Quote by dannyalcatraz
The V3M I linked to was a a combo with a 1x12.

Are you saying you think he'd need a better cab than that?

Everyone knows you need a 4x12, preferably with a 100 watt head for bedroom practice.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#19
Quote by N1ghtmar3C1n3ma
I would advise getting a good tube amp before spending that much money on a guitar.
If you are dead set on getting a new guitar I would get the Epiphone version of the SG (but a good one) or MiM Fender, use the money you saved on going towards a good tube amp THEN buy the sweet Gibsons and MiA Fenders.


I don't play in a band (yet), and the only other people I play for are my family, my guitar instructor, and friends. I only use it for practicing at home, so I don't really think I need the upgrade at this point.
#20
Ok, no band yet.

Speaking for myself only- but probably soon to be echoed- you should still probably follow the general advice of the tread and upgrade both your amp and your axe. You just don't need anything larger than a 1x12.

Amps are the biggest single factor in defining your sound. They're the ice-cream in the sundae. They define the basic flavor; everything else is just toppings. Upgrade your amp, and even your current guitar will sound noticeably different. Upgrade both- even on a tight budget- and you'll be smiling ear to ear.

And, the thing is, most of the amps recommended so far will sound great for all your current uses, AND would still be usable in most band situations. You might never need to buy another amp, depending on your goals and tastes.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 25, 2016,
#21
Quote by nate8olson
I don't play in a band (yet), and the only other people I play for are my family, my guitar instructor, and friends. I only use it for practicing at home, so I don't really think I need the upgrade at this point.

If you think you don't need a good amp for those reasons, then you can just extend that argument to not needing a good guitar and we are back to square one.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#22
Quote by dannyalcatraz
Ok, no band yet.

Speaking for myself only- but probably soon to be echoed- you should still probably follow the general advice of the tread and upgrade both your amp and your axe. You just don't need anything larger than a 1x12.

Amps are the biggest single factor in defining your sound. They're the ice-cream in the sundae. They define the basic flavor; everything else is just toppings. Upgrade your amp, and even your current guitar will sound noticeably different. Upgrade both- even on a tight budget- and you'll be smiling ear to ear.

And, the thing is, most of the amps recommended so far will sound great for all your current uses, AND would still be usable in most band situations. You might never need to buy another amp, depending on your goals and tastes.


Okay, I'll have to see what my guitar teacher says, but I don't know the difference between these Godin ones that were suggested. I looked up reviews and demos, and they all sound the same to me. Is one better quality than the others? Are they for different genres? What does one have that the another doesn't?
#23
Alt/Indie rock... gotta go with:

Peavey Classic 50 - will probably cost 450 (shipped) if you order used via GC.
Fender Blacktop Jazzmaster - will probably cost about 420 (shipped) if you order used via GC.

Sales tax, if your state has that, might mess with the budget a bit though.
Gear: Gibson Les Paul Studio, Gibson SG Special, Fender Stratocaster, Fender Telecaster, Fender Jazzmaster, Gretsch Pro Jet, Carvin C350, Epiphone ES-339 P90, Epiphone ES-335 Pro. Peavey 6505, Sovtek MIG-100, Vox AC30, Peavey XXX.
Last edited by ThunderPunk at Jan 25, 2016,
#24
Quote by nate8olson
Okay, I'll have to see what my guitar teacher says, but I don't know the difference between these Godin ones that were suggested. I looked up reviews and demos, and they all sound the same to me. Is one better quality than the others? Are they for different genres? What does one have that the another doesn't?


Some mythbusting is in order. Pretty much, any genre of music can be played on any guitar, if you know what you're doing. It is just that some have specs that are more slanted in one direction or another, or that a certain visual aesthetic is more in keeping with expectaions.

Because of that, I think the most important aspect of an electric guitar is how it feels in the hands of the person playing it. If you're not comfy, you won't like playing it. I LOVE V-style guitars, but I'll probably never own one because I just can't get comfy playing one.

That you can't tell the difference between the guitars is partly a factor of your relative inexperience. But it is also that you're hearing everything through all those layers of Youtube and other programs, etc, plus the speakers of whatever you're watching on. AND the demos might not be through gear you're familiar with.

AND the reviewers probably don't tell you what settings they're using.

And so forth.

Live and in person, you'd stand a better chance of hearing the nuances. That isn't always an option. One thing I do is try to see of the same people are demoing the various pieces of gear I'm interested in. That way, I get a feel for what they're doing, and I can detect differences between their demos. Gearmanndude and Pro Guitar Shop are two I use a lot.

I wouldn't say that any of those guitars is intrinsically and meaningfully better or worse, but they will have differences that might matter to you.

Some have a more Strat-like design. That means you'll have certain expectations about how they should feel and sound. You'll be familiar with changing strings and effects on tuning stability that come with tremolos. And the Godins might be a pleasant surprise.

Others were obviously not Stratlike at all, and will have a different vibe you may prefer...or may not like at all.

Part of the key to choosing- and to our helping you choose- is knowing more about your preferences. What kind of indie/alternative music are you playing? What bands or guitarists do you try to emulate?
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 25, 2016,
#25
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#26
Quote by N1ghtmar3C1n3ma
Everyone knows you need a 4x12, preferably with a 100 watt head for bedroom practice.

What's wrong with that?
"If you're looking for me,
you better check under the sea,
because that's where you'll find me..."