#3
At first glance that appears to be a Kahler trem, if it is it must be an early one or maybe a prototype, or it could be a knockoff does it say Kahler on it? The pickup mounting rings look odd to me almost like they are homemade, although the pictures seem to be a bit distorted so it is hard to tell.

It looks like the Floyd Rose signature model but it is odd that it doesn't have a Floyd on it, unless it has been modified at some point.
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#4
It appears to be an '84-'85 (going by the headstock shape) Kramer Floyd Rose Signature model. They all came with Original Floyd Rose's, so someone installed a Kahler on for some strange reason.

EDIT: Things look kind of off on it so it could possibly be a mutt or even a knockoff. The inlays on the neck, the control layout, pup rings and biggest of all the trem are all off. Having the pics all stretched out doesn't help either.
Last edited by Way Cool JR. at Feb 1, 2016,
#5
Quote by Way Cool JR.
It appears to be an '84-'85 (going by the headstock shape) Kramer Floyd Rose Signature model. They all came with Original Floyd Rose's, so someone installed a Kahler on for some strange reason.

EDIT: Things look kind of off on it so it could possibly be a mutt or even a knockoff. The inlays on the neck, the control layout, pup rings and biggest of all the trem are all off. Having the pics all stretched out doesn't help either.

Could be imagining it but the bevels look wrong for the Floyd Rose Signature models I've seen.
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Agreeing with everyone here, it looks like a Floyd Rose Signature but isn't. The tremolo system is a Kahler, the fret markers aren't where other FRS markers are located, there's two switches and two knobs, instead of 1 and 3, and the logo looks different from other Kramer logos.
Modified FRS maybe?

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#7
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Agreeing with everyone here, it looks like a Floyd Rose Signature but isn't. The tremolo system is a Kahler, the fret markers aren't where other FRS markers are located, there's two switches and two knobs, instead of 1 and 3, and the logo looks different from other Kramer logos.
Modified FRS maybe?

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#9
I going to say that it's more than likely a complete knock off. The headstock shape looks completely off + no signs of truss rod or locking nut and the body contours and pup placement all look way off. Does it even have a trem cavity in the back, or any signs of one ever being there?

Here are some good pics of a real one to compare to.
Body front:


Headstock:


Back:


Neck Plate:
#10
Yeah it also has a Zero fret which is very suspect for a Kramer
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#11
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So, I was digging around my old stuff from the garage, and found a Kramer electric guitar my grandfather used to own. Can someone please help me identify it and/or know if it needs repair?


it looks kinda cobbly. lot's of details missing from the original sig series. body contours aren't as refined, controls in the wrong place, weird trem, pu's and bezels all whack, etc.. unless it's some sort of forgotten prototype?

does it need repair? hell yeah.

and no, that's not a zero fret.
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#12
The guitar TS posted in the 2nd pic of his first post shows the guitar he found and it looked like a zero fret.
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#14
That bridge pickup is completely fucked, it will probably need all new hardware and electronics since it has been kept in a garage for god knows how long.

Why did you keep it in a garage?
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#15
I didn't know it was in the garage, so I was surprised when it came out. Agreeing with N1ghtmar3C1n3ma on the pickup being fucked.
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I didn't know it was in the garage, so I was surprised when it came out. Agreeing with N1ghtmar3C1n3ma on the pickup being fucked.


Well you need to find out who decided to store it in the garage and give them a good punch to the head
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#17
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Well you need to find out who decided to store it in the garage and give them a good punch to the head

read the OP
It was his grandfathers and he put it in the garage
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#18
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read the OP
It was his grandfathers and he put it in the garage

Well it doesn't actually say he put it in the garage
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Well it doesn't actually say he put it in the garage

True, but it would be an absolutely logical possibility
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#20
Quote by Robbgnarly
read the OP
It was his grandfathers and he put it in the garage


From the sounds of it someone else put it in the garage and he stumbled upon it looking for something else, at least that's how it sounds to me, I could be wrong though, it's been a long hectic day at work and I am very tired.
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#21
To answer the debate about who put the guitar in the garage, my grandfather put it in the garage because it couldn't fit with the weight limit of his luggage when he moved to San Fran.