#1
Hello everyone,

I'm begining to look for a new guitar. My only demands are a strat / superstrat shape and a hardtail (hipshot style) fixed bridge. That's it. Budget is 700€ max (roughly $700). The cheaper the better. Hopefully, it isn't overkill, given my skill - I bought my first guitar (Ibanez RG350M) in may 2015, so I'm as fresh as they get.

Here are some guitars I've been looking at:

http://www.ibanez.com/products/u_eg_page15.php?year=2015&cat_id=1&series_id=1&data_id=167&color=CL01

http://www.ibanez.com/products/eg_detail.php?year=2016&area_id=3&cat_id=1&series_id=1&data_id=304&color=CL01

http://www.schecterguitars.com/international/vault/listing/banshee-6-active-2013-12-19-detail

http://www.schecterguitars.com/international/guitars/stealth-series/stealth-c-1-red-detail

http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PXM200AFTBLM.html

http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PX-SOLAR160C.html (generally not a huge fan of signatures, but I'll let this one slide)


I play metal almost exclusively, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth and the like. Also, my current amp is an Engl Gigmaster 15 Combo.

The problem (and the reason for posting here) is the fact, that there is no music shop in my entire country that would stock the guitars I'm looking at, with the exeption of the Premium Ibanez). So there's really no way for me to try the guitars I'm looking at. There is a store that sells all of the brands I'm looking at, but it's a 4 hour drive in one direction and according to their website, they have none of the guitars I'm looking at in stock.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated
Last edited by teedo92 at Feb 6, 2016,
#2
I recommend the Ibanez Premium. It will feel familiar to you and it will probably have the best fretwork of them all with the Premium Fret Treatment they do.

Schecters always feel and look like cheap plastic toys to me as well.

The Washburns I have no idea om really, as I have only played one Washburn in my life. It was alright.
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#3
Thanks for the input.

I too am eyeing the Ibanez Premium, seems like a great deal.
I'm probably going to go see if the shop still has it, and try it out.
#4
I'd go with the Washburn PX-SOLAR160C for the looks, black matte finish, ebony fretboard. It's not a bolt on and seems to have great access to the upper frets.
#5
Quote by dthmtl3
I'd go with the Washburn PX-SOLAR160C for the looks, black matte finish, ebony fretboard. It's not a bolt on and seems to have great access to the upper frets.


What's the issue with bolt ons? The Ibanez bolt joint is amazing and gives great upper fret access, better than most set necks and even some neck throughs, I have zero problems reaching the 24th fret on my Ibanez 7, and that's from the Gio series, their higher end ones have an even more rounded and comfortable joint.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#6
The Washburn looks awesome, yes. But I can't really find a lot of practical information on it...

As far as the upper fret access goes, I'm not having any problems on my RG350M. So if the Premium is anything like that, it should be fine (not that I do a lot of shredding, but still ).
#7
Btw, how are the stock pickups on the Premium Ibanez?

Also, any opinions on Jackson's DK2 model (the newer ones, made in Mexico, with fixed bridge)?
#8
get a used ibanez prestige, it is a little harder to find hartail ones at the lower end, but they are a lot nicer than the premiums.

these: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/jackson-pro-dinky-dk2ht-electric-guitar?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=Cj0KEQiA0Na1BRDlkqOcyczng5cBEiQAnEDa2AyUouvEjUnZ5ZAWX3jOQ5zQbdWC6gedM8EWwVz0rwMaAtWb8P8HAQ&kwid=productads-plaid^143118044682-sku^J16648000001000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^92666429307 look cool. i kinda want one actually. lol.
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#9
I was looking at used Prestige Ibanez guitars, but can't find anything that would suit me. Locally, I found one, but it's over budget, I also checked both German and UK eBay but everything is over budget...

Regarding the Jackson, the one you posted is the one I'm interested in. I'm just not sure, I've heard different things about the quality of the MIM Jacksons...
#10
The more I look at that Jackson, the more I like it.

Does anyone have it? I'm trying to get any information on them, but it's scarce...
#12
I would still go for the Ibanez, that bolt on joint on the Jackson looks horrible to me.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#13
The Jackson DK2 with hard tail bridge, quilt maple top in chlorine burst blue finish and maple fretboard (the variant I like the most) is about 50 to 100eur over my 700 budget, depending on the store. However, the variant with no top wood and rosewood fretboard is 50eur under my budget. In short, the price of the DK2 is something I could live with.

As far as the Ibanez goes, I guess I'm torn between it and the Jackson...
#14
The best way to tell would be to play them both, or models very similar and decide which one feels the best to you.

Both have slim, flat neck profiles and low action. The biggest difference is the Jackson will have a compound radius fretboard whereas the Ibanez will be a flat radius all across the fretboard.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#16
i would go jackson over premium, but prestige trump both.
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#17
I own an Ibanez RGIR that is identical to that one. Out of the box, the setup was lacking just a little bit, but not really a problem. I find it extremely comfortable to play and it fits perfectly against your body. I think the EMGs sound amazing for low tuning (I'm in drop Bb), but keep in mind they are really hot, so you will distort sooner and have more volume. For the price, imo it's very worth it. However, if you could get a premium for about the same or within your budget, I would probably go with that.
#18
I'm thinking Jackson. Unless I come across a suitable used Prestige.
#19
Quote by teedo92
I'm thinking Jackson. Unless I come across a suitable used Prestige.


I have a Washburn PXM10FRQTBLM and it is a great guitar, loads of premium features at a very reasonable price, the fretwork is exceptional as is the fit/finish and build quality in general, it has better upper fret access than any guitar I have ever played (Stevens Extended Cutaway) it plays great it is on par with any of my MIJ imports.

If you are looking to go with Jackson if you could get your hands on a used MIJ Jackson that would be the route I'd take, the Jacksons made at the Chushin Gakki factory are great quality guitars, I'm not sure what the used market is like where you are at but here in the US you can find DKMGT for $350 or less, I have no experience with the new MIM Jacksons so I can't offer any advice on them.

Prestige Ibanez is a great choice as well.
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Last edited by Evilnine at Feb 9, 2016,
#20
Any ideas on a comparable Washburn, but with a fixed bridge? All others seem "inferior" to me? An example: http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PXS100B.html

I'm not having much luck with used MIJ Jacksons. Most of them have a trem, and those that don't are located in the USA, meaning that shipping would cost me more than the actual guitar... :/
#21
Quote by teedo92
Any ideas on a comparable Washburn, but with a fixed bridge? All others seem "inferior" to me? An example: http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PXS100B.html

I'm not having much luck with used MIJ Jacksons. Most of them have a trem, and those that don't are located in the USA, meaning that shipping would cost me more than the actual guitar... :/


Here are a couple nice hard tails, not sure if you are into active pickups but these have some nice premium features.

http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PXM20EFTBM.html

http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PXS10EDLXTBM.html

The Solar models are really nice too.

http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PX-SOLAR16TBLM.html

This one even has the Evertune bridge on it

http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PX-SOLAR16ETC.html

It does seem like everyone want a Floyd on their Jackson the trem guitars greatly outnumber the hard tails.
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Last edited by Evilnine at Feb 10, 2016,
#23
I have a Schecter. They are nice guitars. The neck is more like a ball bat though. At least to me. Ibanez or Schecter.
#24
Quote by teedo92
These are all very nice, but only the PXS10EDLXTBM fits my budget with an acceptable margin.

I'm also eyeing this one:
http://www.washburn.com/products/electric/PX-SOLAR160C.html



That looks like a good one, decent hard ware and wood for sure, very aggressive look.
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