#1
Does anybody know a way to use a volume pedal to increase/decrease the volume or modulation of a effects pedal, I want to do this with kinda a delay pedal and slowly ease into the delay and increase the volume more and more until the desired level? I haven't found any threads or videos about it. I'm guessing I will have to create some sort of fx loop circuit on my pedal board or make a custom pedal or something, the main idea is not to find a pedal with that option so I could use it with multiple/different pedals if I want to. Any similar ideas?
#2
Sounds like you want a wet/dry mixer pedal. Not sure that they make those, but it certainly is possible. Basically you'll have two inputs feeding a mixer amp circuit that uses the pot resistance to control the mix. If you google "wet/dry mixer pedal" you'll see that they make stuff like this, but looks a bit expensive.
#3
The TIP Third Hand is sort of a manual expression pedal for units that don't have expression pedal capability. They never really took off, but they still make them and it's an option. You could just hook it up to the mix knob on a delay and be off.

Otherwise, a blend pedal as mentioned would work, or a wet/dry signal path and blend in the wet with a regular volume pedal. You could also modify a volume pedal with a blend pot, though that might get tricky with the goofy spool they tend to use. The problem with many of these solutions is that you get into a lot of signal routing to achieve the equivalent of kicking the knob with your foot. Not worth the headache for most people. Plus, with the advent of digital modeling, if you're really serious about this sort of thing you can just get a POD and map an expression pedal (or two!) to whatever parameter you please.
#5
there are pedals that have expression pedal inputs to control parameters (like the boss dd7 for example), i have also modified pedals for the same purpose.

if you really want this effect available in a versatile way then i'd recommend using a multi effects processor that allows for such manipulation. generally you can assign any parameter to an expression pedal in such setups.
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#7
You could simply use the fx loop with volume pedal in front:
fx send ->volume pedal->delay->delay out->fx return

if your amp has paralel fx loop (explained here):
http://www.soldano.com/amp-help/whats-the-difference-between-a-series-and-a-parallel-effects-loop/

I think Steve Morse does that, I found this site explaining some of it:

http://www.woodytone.com/2010/08/19/steve-morses-volumeexpression-pedal-setup/

I think what you're looking to do might be done either via a small mixer or a wet/dry setup, like the Boss DD-3 for example has Output and Direct out:


One can be sent to amp#1 and the other to amp#2 so you control the Output with volume pedal.

You can also feed the two into a small mixer in different channels, with the output of the volume pedal being controlled via the volume pedal, and then the output of the mixer goes to the fx return.

Another option would be the same thing but with a dedicated pedal, the Boss LS-2 on "A+B Mix" mode, where say the B loop if where you have the volume pedal and the delay:


I think this Morley ABY MIx switcher could also do it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morley-ABY-Mix-Electric-Guitar-Amp-Switcher-Pedal-Switch-/331361233203

You could also use a plain old ABY switch in reverse if your delay pedal has the Output and Dry out like the Boss DD-3, in other words your guitar dry (or fx send) goes into A and your guitar delay+volume pedal goes into B, the output of the two goes into the fx return.


Another option would be to do a 2 cable via Y cable DYI or buy them, custom solder one mono jack into two mono cables, think of one Y where the right path goes to vol. pedal and delay, the other goes straight into a reverse Y (excuse the bad drawing)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wrltqypevf7nwcm/two%20Ys.png?dl=0
Last edited by diabolical at Mar 7, 2016,
#8
Here's a pic of Steve Morse's signature head:
http://englamps.de/index.php?id=36&tx_ddfproducts_pi1[uid]=24&iPhoneBypass=1
If you look at the back you'll see that he has 2 parallel loops (switchable) on his amp, the giveaway is the volume control on the parallel loop.
#9
I've used delay pedals like this for years. Either I go into a delay pedal with a separate output for the echo, or use a multi-effects and assign the expression pedal to control delay level and feedback. It gradually increases the delay level, until at some point, it also increases feedback, giving this runaway spaceship feedback. Fun!
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