#1
In most conversations, the phrase comes up when someone wants to point out an intellectual shortcoming of somebody else, highlighting how their "cognitive dissonance" is holding them back from coming to terms with some new concept.

I think it's got a useful purpose tho

Cognitive dissonance is an intellectual defense mechanism that prevents hyper-rationalization so we don't go bonkers. A lot of things that we do as a "society", or culture or people or world or whatever other collective of the week you subscribe to, don't align with each other and our morals/ethics/tenets/legal frameworks are clearly not absolute across all spectra..

For me, a popular "thought experiment" (lol I hate this phrase) for this is the more or less common acceptance of war as sometimes necessary, coupled with a more widespread opposition to the state death penalty. To me, we have a collective cognitive dissonance with how the society kills and how the individual kills, and I don't think it's necessarily a negative thing.

NEWAYS, my point is that I think cognitive dissonance is not just a negative thing, but an oft-necessary construct that eases our minds into accepting things that might otherwise cause a "paralysis of analysis" (another phrase that I hate)

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#2
In my line of work, cognitive dissonance often refers to the morality of a lawyer defending a client they know to be guilty.

It's pretty interesting stuff, especially when you see people struggling with it.
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#3
pretty spot on

most people will act a certain way to fit in, even though their deep beliefs are conflicting with their actions.

but I like the idea that even people with "high morals" or "high intelligence" use this mechanism to drive themselves from going insane in our society.

I don't think people should be put to death in terms of death penalty, but i think a large investigation and cold hard evidence should point to that being the only option. I think a life time sentence in a jail cell is worse than being put to death. But that's my opinion on that.
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#4
Only ever used cognitive dissonance in terms of musical/visual juxtapositions of representing two opposites that creates conflicting representations. I.e Born in the USA and Shiny Happy People, or say if someone is looking out of a window into the rainy distance but walkin on sunshine is ironically playing.
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#8
Cognitive dissonance.

Is that like some republicans that hate the idea of anything socialist and say they support a free market economy, and at the same time want the government to build a wall (which would be, by definition, a socialist programme) where the intention of the wall is to prevent a free labour market.
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I prefer people who consider these things and accept the moral black hole they're trapped in, rather than exist in thoughtless denial.

Not to say you can escape cognitive dissonance, but striving to uncover it is as decent a goal as any.
#14
People using possibly legitimate internal anxieties as a rhetorical tool to validate their viewpoint on the internet is what's bad.

Also, inconsistency is in itself not a dirty thing. Your views on one issue don't have to align with your views on others. Hypocrisy stems from humbug affectations, putting on airs of concern and indignation, not emotional strife or someone else's barometer of analogous consistency.

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Yeah I mean most things you do in life involve shitting all over a whole bunch of people, directly or indirectly. I just tend to hyperrationalise anyway, maybe that's why I'm so sad.

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I prefer people who consider these things and accept the moral black hole they're trapped in, rather than exist in thoughtless denial.

Not to say you can escape cognitive dissonance, but striving to uncover it is as decent a goal as any.

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#17
I addressed this in the aforementioned thread, but I don't think there's any cognitive dissonance between war and the death penalty. One is a measure of defence, and the other is punishment. The why is probably the most important aspect of that, and since the two are fundamentally different in a significant manner, no, I don't think you could argue that there is cognitive dissonance between the two.

Anyway, you don't really have to frame your point with "I think." You learn that in high school psychology class. It's widely accepted in the field of psychology. It's pretty much ingrained into the very idea of cognitive dissonance.
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I addressed this in the aforementioned thread, but I don't think there's any cognitive dissonance between war and the death penalty. One is a measure of defence, and the other is punishment. The why is probably the most important aspect of that, and since the two are fundamentally different in a significant manner, no, I don't think you could argue that there is cognitive dissonance between the two.

Anyway, you don't really have to frame your point with "I think." You learn that in high school psychology class. It's widely accepted in the field of psychology. It's pretty much ingrained into the very idea of cognitive dissonance.


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