#5
It's actually supposed to keep nerds busy and stop the friction from their constant masturbation causing global warming.

Way to let us down, maths.
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#7
Okay calm down I'm just interested and ignorant believe me I'm as bored of math as you are. But I wanna relate to it somehow and so I wanna figure out what it essentially does and what its limitations are.

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yes and no

Where's the distinction?
#8
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Okay calm down I'm just interested and ignorant believe me I'm as bored of math as you are. But I wanna relate to it somehow and so I wanna figure out what it essentially does and what its limitations are.


Where's the distinction?


i dont recognise the existence of math

maths however could be notation for concept

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#10
nature is math

everything is math

i like the concept of math in terms of reality and how everything came to be, chaos and all.
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#11
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nature is math

everything is math

i like the concept of math in terms of reality and how everything came to be, chaos and all.

Nope.

Maths is a social construct tool which can aid in the understanding of those things.
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#12
how can maths be real if our eyes arent real

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#13
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how can maths be real if our eyes arent real

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True. It is a question I feel we may never truly comprehend, let alone answer.
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#14
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Nope.

Maths is a social construct tool which can aid in the understanding of those things.


agreed

maybe those aliens in the other thread know something we dont
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#15
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agreed

maybe those aliens in the other thread know something we dont

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#17
Whether it is or it isn't, why is pointing this question out important?
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#18
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Whether it is or it isn't, why is pointing this question out important?

It's an important distinction for me to make. It's never previously clicked for me that 2 and x aren't math.
#20
Literally every way we communicate is notation for concepts

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#21
Nope. Language isn't necessarily notation.


But yeah clearly we communicate in signs. I'm asking if math extends past this.
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#22
Everybody encourage ali, he's making a personal breakthrough. An epiphany if you will.
#24
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maths is the notation for the inner workings of the cosmos

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#26
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I'm asking if math extends past this.


No, not really. Sure we may learn new concepts that we use math to express, and invent new mathematical symbols and concepts to more easily explain these discoveries, but it's still just a visual representation of information for communication purposes, the same as any other way people communicate.
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#27
Yeah, the notation is notation. It represents other stuff, like all these letters we're using.
#28
Too many threads to post
I'll just quote from the other one

Math is an application of logic on abstract conceptual models with the purpose to better understand said models and their limitations, with the objective of improving our understanding of the world in parallel when we can apply those models unto our world


Notation is secondary. It is fundamental when defining the syntax of the language used to define the models, but that's it.
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#29
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i dont recognise the existence of math

maths however could be notation for concept


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#30
I think x and y are the chromosomes that are multiplied, divided and distributed always equaling z, which is the nap afterwards
#31
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Too many threads to post
I'll just quote from the other one


Notation is secondary. It is fundamental when defining the syntax of the language used to define the models, but that's it.

You could do that without math, though.
#32

Don't do math kids
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#33
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You could do that without math, though.


At a certain point you make a whole bunch of these models and discover concepts and you put them all under the "math" umbrella (algebra, geometry, calculus, etc).
So yeah, you can do that without the conventional definition of "math" above, but I think it'd still be math, mainly because there isn't really a way to delimit that kind of application of logic with conventional "math".

I don't think there is a way to say that one model/theory is more "mathy" than any other kind of logical theory, model, concept and application you can figure out.
For instance, is algebra "math" while type theory isn't? If so, why?