#1

???

#2

yes and no

#3

maths is the notation for the inner workings of the cosmos

woah

woah

#4

dude....

#5

It's actually supposed to keep nerds busy and stop the friction from their constant masturbation causing global warming.

Way to let us down, maths.

Way to let us down, maths.

#6

please dear god no not another math thread

#7

Okay calm down I'm just interested and ignorant believe me I'm as bored of math as you are. But I wanna relate to it somehow and so I wanna figure out what it essentially does and what its limitations are.

Where's the distinction?

yes and no

Where's the distinction?

#8

Okay calm down I'm just interested and ignorant believe me I'm as bored of math as you are. But I wanna relate to it somehow and so I wanna figure out what it essentially does and what its limitations are.

Where's the distinction?

i dont recognise the existence of math

math

**s**however could be notation for concept

#9

I meant how is it not notation.

#10

nature is math

everything is math

i like the concept of math in terms of reality and how everything came to be, chaos and all.

everything is math

i like the concept of math in terms of reality and how everything came to be, chaos and all.

#11

nature is math

everything is math

i like the concept of math in terms of reality and how everything came to be, chaos and all.

Nope.

Maths is a

#12

how can maths be real if our eyes arent real

#13

how can maths be real if our eyes arent real

mathematicam veram et realem at non sunt, si quid oculis nostris

True. It is a question I feel we may never truly comprehend, let alone answer.

#14

Nope.

Maths is a~~social construct~~tool which can aid in the understanding of those things.

agreed

maybe those aliens in the other thread know something we dont

#15

agreed

maybe those aliens in the other thread know something we dont

They've probed enough butts to discover the deepest secrets of mankind.

-sunaj

#16

maths is the formula for a headache in written form because theres no way to transfer them physically or mentally yet

#17

Whether it is or it isn't, why is pointing this question out important?

#18

Whether it is or it isn't, why is pointing this question out important?

It's an important distinction for me to make. It's never previously clicked for me that 2 and x aren't math.

#19

I guess so, kind of. Yes, possibly. x

#20

Literally every way we communicate is notation for concepts

smdh math elitists smd nerds

smdh math elitists smd nerds

#21

Nope. Language isn't necessarily notation.

But yeah clearly we communicate in signs. I'm asking if math extends past this.

But yeah clearly we communicate in signs. I'm asking if math extends past this.

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#22

Everybody encourage ali, he's making a personal breakthrough. An epiphany if you will.

#23

math = language - qualia

#24

maths is the notation for the inner workings of the cosmos

woah

ye

#25

stars and shit man

its all maths

1s and 0s at the core

its all maths

1s and 0s at the core

#26

I'm asking if math extends past this.

No, not really. Sure we may learn new concepts that we use math to express, and invent new mathematical symbols and concepts to more easily explain these discoveries, but it's still just a visual representation of information for communication purposes, the same as any other way people communicate.

#27

Yeah, the notation is notation. It represents other stuff, like all these letters we're using.

#28

Too many threads to post

I'll just quote from the other one

Notation is secondary. It is fundamental when defining the syntax of the language used to define the models, but that's it.

I'll just quote from the other one

Math is an application of logic on abstract conceptual models with the purpose to better understand said models and their limitations, with the objective of improving our understanding of the world in parallel when we can apply those models unto our world

Notation is secondary. It is fundamental when defining the syntax of the language used to define the models, but that's it.

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#29

i dont recognise the existence of math

mathshowever could be notation for concept

I don't eat fish.

Fish

**s**on the other hand is delicious

#30

I think x and y are the chromosomes that are multiplied, divided and distributed always equaling z, which is the nap afterwards

#31

Too many threads to post

I'll just quote from the other one

Notation is secondary. It is fundamental when defining the syntax of the language used to define the models, but that's it.

You could do that without math, though.

#32

Don't do math kids

#33

You could do that without math, though.

At a certain point you make a whole bunch of these models and discover concepts and you put them all under the "math" umbrella (algebra, geometry, calculus, etc).

So yeah, you can do that without the conventional definition of "math" above, but I think it'd still be math, mainly because there isn't really a way to delimit that kind of application of logic with conventional "math".

I don't think there is a way to say that one model/theory is more "mathy" than any other kind of logical theory, model, concept and application you can figure out.

For instance, is algebra "math" while type theory isn't? If so, why?