#1
Hello UG community and thank you for opening this article, ( article right ? )
I need some help and advices in order to buy a pretty good guitar that is reasonable for it's price ( my budget is under 500 euros ).
I am looking for a guitar that is mainly suitable for hard rock and metal tones, well i have searched for some guitars around the ug reviews and i have some hard time deciding what i really want and i don't want to just spend 500 euros for a crappy guitar that will not satisfy me .
I have mainly searched around schecter and esp guitars and i pretty much liked the sound of the guitars ( especially from the hellraiser 006 schecter ) what are your opinions around this model ? i have also heard that the esp ltd series is pretty good ...
Any help would be nice thank you for your time !
#2
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_rg350dxzwh.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_rg350zb_wk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_ec331_blk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/jackson_kvxt_king_v_sbk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/jackson_rrxt_rhoads_sw.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_mh_103qm_stb.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_mh_100qm_nt.htm

I have found a few guitars here that you may like.

Personally my opinion on Schecters is that I don't like them, so I wont say anything about them except they just always feel...off to me I guess I just don't like the neck profiles or something.

Someone else would probably be better telling you about them than me, because all I can say is that I think they are shit.

People are also going to ask what amp you have, so we might aswell get that out the way too and see what amp you have?
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#3
Thank you for your suggestions
I currently use a line 6 spider iv 15 watt ( i know it's not a great amp but a friend sold it to me for 40 euros so.. :P )
Last edited by nion1232 at Mar 13, 2016,
#4
At that price range, the guitars won't be crappy, you will get a lot more guitar for the money buying used. However, finding the right used guitar can take time and effort.

As for your question on Schecter guitars and ESP LTD guitars, I have always thought they were very similar, overall. The Hellraiser 006 is almost a copy of the LTD MH-1000 line, both with the same shape, binding, extra jumbo frets, EMG active pickups and Floyd Rose 1000's. The ESP LTD 1000's (there are numerous models) are generally a little cheaper than the Schecters (in the US). And, Jackson offer some similarly equipped guitars in about the same price range.

If you go new, and if possible, I would consider spending a little more than 500€, it should open up your options.

Lastly, when I tried the ESPs and Jacksons, I went with an ESP LTD guitar, just liked it better (that was over 15 years ago). At the time, I had an early Ibanez guitar so I didn't want another, but they have some excellent models that have faster necks and in my opinion are easier to play than the ones I listed above. Today, there are a lot of brands that are worth considering including the PRS SE line, Chapman Guitars, etc.
#5
Well you will definitely need an amp upgrade at some point, and you are right that at 40 euros you can't really complain at that amp.

I would probably say get the new guitar first (What guitar do you currently have by the way) for now but definitely look into a new amp afterwards.

The reason being is the guitar is the thing you actually play, and what motivates you to pick it up and practice or rock out. So if you have a guitar you love you will never want to put it down and you will get better.
My Gear:
Ibanez Jet King 2
Ibanez RGDIX7 MPB
Ibanez GRG 7221
OLP John Petrucci
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro
Squier Stratocaster (modified)
Harley Benton CLD-41S (Acoustic)

Peavey Vypyr 30.

Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Boss FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
#6
Thanks again for the suggestions that you guys give me and i will completely agree that if you find the right guitar it will motivate to in order to learn new things
I currently have an epiphone les paul special II ( i bought for 149 euros as i can remember ) and i am pretty satisfied from what i got for the price that i paid but i believe that i need a change because the fretboard doesn't really feel so good and i can't really explain it but it also feels kind of cheap
#7
Something else to look at is the fret sizes. depending on whether you are leaning towards more rhythm based or faster solo based playing, i've found that jumbo frets arent too great for fast lead work. This might just be my opinion, but ive got 2 schecters, a chinese flying v and a dean from the 80's, and the schecters both have jumbo frets. despite being worth way, way more, they dont play anywhere near as well as my v or my dean, which both have medium/small frets..
#8
Thanks , ill keep that in mind ( by the way i am looking for a guitar that is mostly for lead rather than rhythm)