#1
Basically I just got my Jackson RRMG set up in Drop C with an 11-54 Ernie Ball set of strings. Tension is fantastic. I love it. However the low E (Now a C obviously) has fret buzz on every note that isn't open. (Unless I play crazy gently and don't strike the string like I prefer too.) It'll buzz against the next fret. The guy said I can bring it back and get it handled if it's not my thing but I'm wondering how much fret buzz is too much and if it's worth bringing it back. All of the other strings are at a fantastic height and it's a Floyd so I have to raise all of them or none of them. I think I might be hearing it through the amp. I could be wrong. I can hear it over the amp, but I'm holding the guitar so I might just hear the guitar. What do you guys think?
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#2
I think if you have to ask, it's probably too much.

Some people say that any is too much, but that's a pretty high bar to clear. Dan Erlewine says that in general if the buzzing is minor and doesn't come through the amp, it's not necessarily a problem. I tend to agree with that.

Your situation, though, doesn't sound minor. Buzzing all the way down the neck makes me think that something is truly not functioning correctly, and it would probably drive me crazy if I tried to play like that. So I'd get it checked out. A good tech should be able to at least minimize the buzzing, although I'm not familiar with such severe dropped tunings so it may be the case that your guitar isn't quite up to the task, and some compromises will have to be made.

Basically, if you just got it set up and it's not doing what you think it should be, take it back.
#3
with a floyd it's always a compromise, you will have to adjust the truss rod or bridge to get it to work so the other 5 strings won't be as perfect any more. The adjustment needed is probably pretty minor though so it won't totally screw up the other strings, just get them a bit further from the fretboard.
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#4
Don't know about floyd rose, but how about the saddle? If the string sits lower than the others it is impossible to get it to play without buzz.
#5
But the thing about FR saddles is they aren't even wide enough to fit thicker strings on the bass side. I imagine the lowest/2 lowest strings aren't even sitting in the saddle but riding well above it.
#6
You can adjust individual Floyd saddles for height. Leastways, Gary Brawer can <G>.

You can get individual Floyd saddles that will handle larger strings.

Check the Floyd Rose site or your Really Good Tech. Floyd is putting out trems for eight-string guitars, so you KNOW they've got saddles that are up to the task.
#7
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They make shims for Floyd Rose saddles to fine tune individual saddle height and to help match your fretboard radius better, if needed.

You can make the shims yourself with piece of a coke can. You don't need to buy anything.

Wouldn't surprise me too much if that's where they get their shim stock from.
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#8
I have a guitar set in DropC as well, it buzzes on every note as well (excluding open)

In my opinion, too much fret buzz is when you start hearing it through the guitar amp
#9
On the optimistic side . . . y'know, maybe that's your sound now.
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well you have to buy a can of coke presumably
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I have this thing called metal shears and a grinder/belt sander (though not necessary, just makes the job go faster) which allows me to make the shims any shape I want. If I need them to be thinner, I can carefully sand them to the thickness I need.

And if you want steel rather than aluminium, there are plenty of beer cans out there made from steel.

Sure it takes more effort than buying shims, but I'd rather use that money for something else. Like a drink of coke.
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well you have to buy a can of coke presumably

Nobody complains about buying a couple of Grolschs to make straplocks, why not shim stock?
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I have shears grinders and tons of other tools since I'm a huge DIY person (plus worked in several trades and do all my own mechanic work) and very mechanically inclined. But what if a person doesn't have all the stuff you and I have, they will spend more buying the tools and may never need to use them again. I haven't came across a steel beer can in decades.

NOS beer cans, my friend.

Fair enough really though. It isn't hard to make your own if you have the tools lying around. But the option is there if the tools are, there's little reason to not use them.
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#14
If the buzz can be heard through the amp or if it annoys you then there is too much buzz.
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#16
^ coke gives a browner tone

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I have this thing called metal shears and a grinder/belt sander (though not necessary, just makes the job go faster) which allows me to make the shims any shape I want. If I need them to be thinner, I can carefully sand them to the thickness I need.

And if you want steel rather than aluminium, there are plenty of beer cans out there made from steel.

Sure it takes more effort than buying shims, but I'd rather use that money for something else. Like a drink of coke.

Nobody complains about buying a couple of Grolschs to make straplocks, why not shim stock?


lol

i don't have all that other kit, though. i'd have to buy that too.
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#18
How low is your action? Action lower than 2.5/64" is bound to have buzzing. This is really low playing action. If your action is the standard of around 4/64" or 1/16" then you may need neck relief/saddle adjustments. I doubt that it's because of a fretlevel that is needed, as only SOME would buzz more than others..