#1
I'm planning to buy a guitar and wanting to get yngwie's tone. but can't afford to buy his signature stuff. what I'm thinking is buying maybe a squire affinity strat and have the pickups upgraded. are there any good alternatives to his signature seymour duncans and his dimarzio hs3? some cheaper alternatives like are entwistle and tesla pickups any good?
#2
What you really (probably) need is a new amp.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you cannot afford to spend a couple hundred bucks on a set of pickups, then I cannot imagine that you can afford to run an amp that'll actually get a convincing Yngwie tone either.
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#3
First, T00DEEPBLUE is probably correct about the amp.

Second, Tesla pickups ARE good.

Third, I wouldn't go with the Squier and upgrade it. I'd start off with a better guitar from which to start. The extra money spent on the guitar- if any, depending on model- will largely offset the price of buying a guitar and modding it with new pickups. Consider a Godin Progression or Progression LTD,
http://www.godinguitars.com/godinsession_34055_34048.html
http://www.godinguitars.com/godinsessionltd_41190.html

a G&L Tribute Legacy, Legacy HB, or Comanche,
http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/Legacy_new/index.asp
http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/Legacy_HB_new/index.asp
http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/Comanche_new/index.asp

or a Fernandes Retrorocket of some kind.
http://www.fernandesguitars.com/products/guitars/retrorocket.html
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#4
Fender USA Strat with scalloped frets
Marshall JTM45 or Mk2 reissue
A few pedals
The rest is up to you. Pickups are less than 1% of Malmsteen tone.
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#5
A scalloped-fret USA Strat might be too rich for odaystar's wallet.
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#6
What I have rightnow is a peavey 6505 combo a ts8 and an ibanez rg32dex it's just that all my previous guitars before had humbuckers never really owned a guitar that has sss setup thats why i dont know what good single coils are out there
#7
ok skip the squier and get yourself a used MIM strat for starters. yngwie's pickups are very low output and are meant to keep the signal very clean. the amp does all the heavy lifting in terms of his tone. 6505 might work but you really have to back off the gain quite a bit. the big thing with yngwie is making sure that the notes are picked very cleanly and that the amp is setup to get as much clarity as possible. both are easier said than done.

if you are on a budget and feel you need pups close to yngwie's then try GFS as they have a variety of single coils that should do the trick for fairly cheap.
#8
Hey monwobobbo cheers man that was very informative im gonna check out gfs
#9
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no problem i'm a strat player and and yngwie fan. happy to help. just keep in mind that proper technique will go a longer way than pickups for playing yngwie's stuff.
#10
Throwing some 12AU7's into your 6505 will get you closer than pups will. Sure, it won't make it sound like a plexi but it will get you a bit closer.
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#11
in a cheap guitar like that, id def go with gfs/dragonfire. in the process od modding an sx alder hawk myself
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#12
To be honest with you, Yngwie's sound is not all that boutique, I get it with quite a few amplifiers. What I use is Music Man Steve Morse, Yngwie's DOD 308 overdrive (luckily I bought it when they were $35 old design, but any Tubescreamer/Boss OD-2, etc. would do), tube amp with effects loop set to crunch, analog echo, this Modtone in fx loop:
http://www.houstonmusicreviews.com/GearReview/ModtoneMTAD/ModtoneMT-AD.html

It gets pretty close, on my JCM900 and Mesa Mini Rectifier, it also works on Laney LC15 and on other amps that I have as well.

The main thing I think is the delay (echo), it has to be echo though, not digital delay.
You'd still be missing something by not having the scalloped frets which I think are a lot bigger part of his sound, more than even the pickups, which could be pretty much mimicked with any mid output single coils.

I'd suggest Lace Sensor single coil pickups if you're going single coil, you could even probably sound better than Yngwie.

You mention that you have high gain amp, so I'd suggest to try with current guitar and just lower the gain somewhat, maybe just lower the pickup further or swap for 12au7 or other lower gain preamp tubes, but the echo is probably essential. If you want to get really picky, look at getting the coils of your humbuckers split. You also might want to read up on scalloping your fretboard, that's a lot of work but it is probably the closest that it will get you to Yngwie.

If you listen to other scalloped fretboard players, Ritchie Blackmore, Uli Roth - you'd notice the main tonal characteristics in all of them is the scalloped fretboard.
#13
A completely new world open to me when I purchased my first tube amp. As far as my playing is concerned I realized that what I need to improve on is dynamics and articulation and also my picking technique which is really given a big emphasis when playing on a tube amp. as far as getting a scalloped neck is concerned will there be a real huge noticeable difference when it comes to your overall sound? i've seen on some of yngwie's interviews that why he likes scalloped necks is because of the grip and how it allows you to have better control on your vibrato. never played a guitar with a scalloped neck so I don't know
#14
The vibrato is totally different with scalloped neck. The rhythm suffers a little bit. No idea what to tell you - find a guitar that has scalloped neck and check it out if you can, if you want to get really authentic, if you want to just cop some Yngwie - I guess just split your coils if you can and maybe make a mod on your current guitar for single coils.

When you open up the electronics on the back if you have say 2 pickups and you see 4 wires with colors and a ground, like this:


Usually when they don't split coils you get 2 of these bridged together so they need to be separated and you'll have to put in a switch that engages it. Without modifying the guitar you can put in a push/pull out switch and potentiometer in one, here it is explained:
http://www.planetz.com/pushpull-pots/
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#15
i've heard good things about those entwistles but i haven't tried them

any decent vintage-style strat style pickup should get you into the ballpark (assuming the rest of your gear is good, and it is) if you can play like yngwie.

maybe use the rhythm channel in crunch mode (maybe with a boost up front) if the lead channel is too distorted?
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