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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/health/paralysis-limb-reanimation-brain-chip.html?_r=0

"Chip, Implanted in Brain, Helps Paralyzed Man Regain Control of Hand"

Five years ago, a college freshman named Ian Burkhart dived into a wave at a beach off the Outer Banks in North Carolina and, in a freakish accident, broke his neck on the sandy floor, permanently losing the feeling in his hands and legs.

On Wednesday, doctors reported that Mr. Burkhart, 24, had regained control of his right hand and fingers, using technology that transmits his thoughts directly to his hand muscles and bypasses his spinal injury. The doctors’ study, published by the journal Nature, is the first account of limb reanimation, as it is known, in a human with profound paralysis.
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#2
I was expecting useless robot #1000 out of Japan but that's actually way cooler.
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#3
inb4 hand becomes autonomous and sentient and strangles him a la dr strangelove
it's all just coming back
it's all coming back

it's all coming back to me
#4
>read thread title
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I am disappointed.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/health/paralysis-limb-reanimation-brain-chip.html?_r=0

"Chip, Implanted in Brain, Helps Paralyzed Man Regain Control of Hand"

Five years ago, a college freshman named Ian Burkhart dived into a wave at a beach off the Outer Banks in North Carolina and, in a freakish accident, broke his neck on the sandy floor, permanently losing the feeling in his hands and legs.

On Wednesday, doctors reported that Mr. Burkhart, 24, had regained control of his right hand and fingers, using technology that transmits his thoughts directly to his hand muscles and bypasses his spinal injury. The doctors’ study, published by the journal Nature, is the first account of limb reanimation, as it is known, in a human with profound paralysis.

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permanently losing the feeling in his hands and legs.

On Wednesday, doctors reported that Mr. Burkhart, 24, had regained control of his right hand and fingers,

So does this mean he still can't feel his hand/arm? Because then masturbation would functionally be like sex.
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/r/AugmentedReality, /r/Futurism, transhumanism, etc. stuff is always sweet to learn about


http://www.nature.com/news/second-chinese-team-reports-gene-editing-in-human-embryos-1.19718


"Study used CRISPR technology to introduce HIV-resistance mutation into embryos."

I have used CRISPR technology to introduce firmness into chicken embryos, but I called it a frying pan...
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>my face when transhumanism
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I am disappointed.


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"Study used CRISPR technology to introduce HIV-resistance mutation into embryos."

I have used CRISPR technology to introduce firmness into chicken embryos, but I called it a frying pan...


noice
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"Study used CRISPR technology to introduce HIV-resistance mutation into embryos."

I have used CRISPR technology to introduce firmness into chicken embryos, but I called it a frying pan...

CRISPR?

I barely even know 'er.
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"transmits his thoughts directly to his arm"


so they have tech that can transmit fucking thought? Can you... store those thoughts?


What year is this
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"transmits his thoughts directly to his arm"


so they have tech that can transmit fucking thought? Can you... store those thoughts?


What year is this


That would be cool, but no. It's more 'motor neuron activation in that part of the brain actually working with the arm'. So think to move your left arm in such-and-such way, and the mid-to-right part of the brain that is activated in such-and-such way from thinking it works.


That would be cool if you could quantifiably map your thoughts into something like a futuristic dream catcher though. Like the 01010101010111101010101010 printout is saved into the machine and it can actually play your dreams like a gif or something
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"transmits his thoughts directly to his arm"


so they have tech that can transmit fucking thought? Can you... store those thoughts?


What year is this


I would think that you could, but all you would get would be the "code" to tell your arm/hand to perform a specific action.

There's not a lot of detail in the article and I suspect the application is severely limited at this time, but there are a lot of questions that I doubt we are prepared to answer as this moves forward. We can't even put rational laws in place governing the internet/encryption etc., we damn sure aren't ready to explore access to thoughts.
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Oh god a gif of my dreams let this never happen I shun science.


We all think that but I doubt yours (or mine) are actually more bizarre than anyone else's, and I've dreamed some crazy shit!
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Machine-assisted WILD*


Nanobots that massage the pineal gland


*le meta-Matrix
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Machine-assisted WILD*

Nanobots that massage the pineal gland

*le meta-Matrix


Nanobots (as envisioned by Science Fiction) are pretty much Deus Ex Machina.

Because once they exist, what can't you do?
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We all think that but I doubt yours (or mine) are actually more bizarre than anyone else's, and I've dreamed some crazy shit!

I wonder whether cinema could actually survive this, or if it would evolve into dream documentaries
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Nanobots that massage the pineal gland




I wish people would stop banging on about this.
o()o

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#24
^the pineal gland has been proven, along with melatonin, to release DMT in most living organisms in a 2012 study in vitro of a rodent. It's what a lot of people suggest makes our dreams.


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Nanobots (as envisioned by Science Fiction) are pretty much Deus Ex Machina.

Because once they exist, what can't you do?


They already have robots thinner than the width of a human hair that can be used to break up pollutants in bodies of water, along with trials to kill cancer cells in humans:

http://www.theplaidzebra.com/dna-nanobots-will-target-cancer-cells-in-the-first-human-trial-using-a-terminally-ill-patient/


Nanobots with AI though.... HELL no
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So does this mean he still can't feel his hand/arm? Because then masturbation would functionally be like sex.

Really?
It took The Pit 6 posts to get to this?
Someone is slacking off.


But that's pretty fucking cool.


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We all think that but I doubt yours (or mine) are actually more bizarre than anyone else's, and I've dreamed some crazy shit!

This is off topic and th link may be full of shit, but some of it made sense.
Worth a look.


http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/l3.htm
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#26
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/r/AugmentedReality, /r/Futurism, transhumanism, etc. stuff is always sweet to learn about


http://www.nature.com/news/second-chinese-team-reports-gene-editing-in-human-embryos-1.19718

I'm doing my Master's thesis on transhumanism


some weird shit, man

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That would be cool, but no. It's more 'motor neuron activation in that part of the brain actually working with the arm'. So think to move your left arm in such-and-such way, and the mid-to-right part of the brain that is activated in such-and-such way from thinking it works.


That would be cool if you could quantifiably map your thoughts into something like a futuristic dream catcher though. Like the 01010101010111101010101010 printout is saved into the machine and it can actually play your dreams like a gif or something
Well, there's a thing where a modified retrovirus is put into a brain. retrovirus is modified with some kind of plant gene where it will produce a little electricity when exposed to light. virus gets all up in them brain cracks then the dude thread some super thin fiber optic wires into certain parts of the brain, effectively using the retrovirus as an on/off switch.

Pretty fuckin awesome shit, but then there's the possibility of using two different colors of light eventually, which could be translated into/used as binary.
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#27
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Really?
It took The Pit 6 posts to get to this?
Someone is slacking off.

Yeah, I'm slacking off as I type this.
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#28
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I'm doing my Master's thesis on transhumanism


some weird shit, man

Name it "Tumblr: The Thesis."
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Name it "Tumblr: The Thesis."

really, transhumanism seems more like Reddit: The Thesis
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^ a thread for people who are UNIMPRESSED

basically


I've become pretty enraptured with the shit on the progression and emergence of technologies, but the whole technology fetish borders or gets into the same mindset as the religious people that are railed against so much. Sure, science can be proven with through testing, but many people who champion science so much know little to nothing about the actual process. It's effectively magic. Some strange process that they don't understand, but it produces amazing results.

the scientific method began as a method of self-criticism and testing, but eventually science was accepted as an entity unto itself instead of a method of investigation, such as the 'why you do this according to science' posts that are everywhere. When you come down to it, many people simply have faith that the math is right and couldn't prove otherwise if they disagreed.
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#32
This is the beginning of what that futurist guy calls the singularity. Mind melding with tech. All our consciousness will be in the cloud.
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I am disappointed.

I assumed he discovered what a smart phone was

or like that he discovered face swap

'lmao look at this I face swapped my cat'
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basically


I've become pretty enraptured with the shit on the progression and emergence of technologies, but the whole technology fetish borders or gets into the same mindset as the religious people that are railed against so much. Sure, science can be proven with through testing, but many people who champion science so much know little to nothing about the actual process. It's effectively magic. Some strange process that they don't understand, but it produces amazing results.

the scientific method began as a method of self-criticism and testing, but eventually science was accepted as an entity unto itself instead of a method of investigation, such as the 'why you do this according to science' posts that are everywhere. When you come down to it, many people simply have faith that the math is right and couldn't prove otherwise if they disagreed.


What's your thesis about? And how are you defending it or whatever?


Just curious...

because it sounds awesome
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What's your thesis about? And how are you defending it or whatever?


Just curious...

because it sounds awesome

we actually don't do thesis defense because we're lame. It's still in flux, but I think I'm mainly going to focus on a big flaw I see in transhumanism and some other shit. Like, they treat technology as a external force that can change us (eventually to a posthuman state) when human beings are inherently technological. We became modern humans (Homo sapiens or whatever else your definition is) through applied technology and invention. Language and culture are just as mechanistic as a computer, and those continually built onto other technological things. We basically got interpellated by technology (if you're familiar with Althusser), and it's been a constant process since the beginning. We simply forget (in kind of a Nietzsche way) that some things were technology or even invented.

transhumanism is pretty postmodern since its all about individual advancement and pretty much denies a larger human nature. I think I'll be saying that human nature is, in part, to be technological so a posthuman state really isn't as near as we think, maybe not even possible. division of labor as a cultural development effectively makes a machine, and out cultural development continued that basic concept (various political systems I know nothing about seem pretty mechanical). By that line of thinking, we should be more concerned with maintaining balance (between biological and artificial) instead of looking to machines to save us somehow, as a lot of transhumanists posit. Dealing a lot with forgetting that we're still subjective-creating creatures. Our "objective" machines, especially A.I., will only be objective according to our very subjective viewpoint.

It's still very much in formation, and I have another semester at least to play around with it. Taking a rhetoric course with the posthumanism faculty member so I'll have him tear my ideas to shreds and build on what was strong enough to survive. Still spitballing a lot of stuff. Some will be total shit, but I'm feeling the foundation form. Reading a lot of anthropology these days.
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we actually don't do thesis defense because we're lame. It's still in flux, but I think I'm mainly going to focus on a big flaw I see in transhumanism and some other shit. Like, they treat technology as a external force that can change us (eventually to a posthuman state) when human beings are inherently technological. We became modern humans (Homo sapiens or whatever else your definition is) through applied technology and invention. Language and culture are just as mechanistic as a computer, and those continually built onto other technological things. We basically got interpellated by technology (if you're familiar with Althusser), and it's been a constant process since the beginning. We simply forget (in kind of a Nietzsche way) that some things were technology or even invented.

transhumanism is pretty postmodern since its all about individual advancement and pretty much denies a larger human nature. I think I'll be saying that human nature is, in part, to be technological so a posthuman state really isn't as near as we think, maybe not even possible. division of labor as a cultural development effectively makes a machine, and out cultural development continued that basic concept (various political systems I know nothing about seem pretty mechanical). By that line of thinking, we should be more concerned with maintaining balance (between biological and artificial) instead of looking to machines to save us somehow, as a lot of transhumanists posit. Dealing a lot with forgetting that we're still subjective-creating creatures. Our "objective" machines, especially A.I., will only be objective according to our very subjective viewpoint.

It's still very much in formation, and I have another semester at least to play around with it. Taking a rhetoric course with the posthumanism faculty member so I'll have him tear my ideas to shreds and build on what was strong enough to survive. Still spitballing a lot of stuff. Some will be total shit, but I'm feeling the foundation form. Reading a lot of anthropology these days.


Have you an idea of what the title and subtitle of your thesis is going to be?


Interesting that you mentioned Nietzsche and reading more into anthropology. With Nietzsche is the strongly-pushed theme/motif of the Eternal Recurrence. This is that: the Sun rises, and it sets. (Uber = over), (nothing new under the Sun),

He tries to disprove free will on this tense, (this is easily critiqued from Beyond Good & Evil) but it does not factor in that the Sun always rises and sets at a non-absolutely-exactly position and time: (so, give a monkey a typewriter for eternity, and it will eventually retype some work by Shakespeare... that being said, it is completely impossible for that finished type of work to be exactly Shakespeare's work, e.g. one of the 'a' letters in one part of the work had an infinitesimally slight difference in its font or boldness).
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Have you an idea of what the title and subtitle of your thesis is going to be?


Interesting that you mentioned Nietzsche and reading more into anthropology. With Nietzsche is the strongly-pushed theme/motif of the Eternal Recurrence. This is that: the Sun rises, and it sets. (Uber = over), (nothing new under the Sun),

He tries to disprove free will on this tense, (this is easily critiqued from Beyond Good & Evil) but it does not factor in that the Sun always rises and sets at a non-absolutely-exactly position and time: (so, give a monkey a typewriter for eternity, and it will eventually retype some work by Shakespeare... that being said, it is completely impossible for that finished type of work to be exactly Shakespeare's work, e.g. one of the 'a' letters in one part of the work had an infinitesimally slight difference in its font or boldness).

I'm still very new to his work. I also need a shit ton of Foucault and all the philosophy shit associated with transhumanism on identity and self and shit. I'm mainly going off of Nietzsche's forgotten metaphor at the moment; except I'm trying to twist it just a little.

The title is going to depend mostly on my approach. My degree with focusing in literature (because rhetoric was the other option), and I haven't decided if I'm going to address how the humanities fit into the whole thing. I'm doing a paper this semester about reading transhumanist thinking through the Iliad, specifically Achille's demigod nature. Like, when he lets one aspect become out of balance (balance is really stressed in the Odyssey), he becomes less than. His human hubris leads to Patroclus' death, and his subsequent ragefest over it is where his godly side comes forward. Basically turns into an unfeeling killing machine until he talks with Priam and cry evrytim with him.

If I bring some literature into it then I'm going to play off transhumanism and humanities for the main title
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I'm still very new to his work. I also need a shit ton of Foucault and all the philosophy shit associated with transhumanism on identity and self and shit. I'm mainly going off of Nietzsche's forgotten metaphor at the moment; except I'm trying to twist it just a little.


That's wrong.


Fix that beforehand.
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That's wrong.


Fix that beforehand.

wat
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