#1
Hey guys.
So this has been bugging me for a while, because I really think I've found something really close to what is my voice, and it's the blues. I've been learning scales and improvising more than ever, and now I feel I should buy a new guitar to suit this playing style of mine.
Thing is, I already own am Ibanez Gio (I'm sorry, I don't remember the specific model number), and it doesn't sound like the guitar I need. I mean, I'm very comfortable with it, the neck is thin but quite smooth when playing arpeggios. But I'm just not into playing metal anymore.
I am new to blues, but I've been playing for quite a few years now. Do you think it's time for a guitar change? And if so, what?
#2
The only "bluesy" type guitar I've ever had was an Ibanez Artcore semi-hollow about a decade ago. Sounded awesome for that style imo. Also, you can't really go wrong with a Strat either. Tons of blues Strat players.
#3
Honestly, if you know what you're doing, you can play damn near anything ON damn near anything....but the "right" gear does give you an advantage playing one genre over another. That said, your amp- and to a certain degree, your pedal selection- is going to define your sound a lot more than your guitar will.

So...

What is your budget?
What kind of sound are you looking for?
What gear do you presently have?
Are you willing to buy used?
What general region do you live in? (Affects product availability and which stores we might recommend.)
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#4
I use telecasters, strats, and les pauls for blues. They all work great. You just have to hone in what you like. I play the most on a 52RI tele, it just feels "right" for me. Play as many as you can and figure what is right for you.
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#5
As was previously mentioned, Teles, Strats and LP's will all get you there but the amp will have the biggest impact. If you're serious about it, get a nice clean amp and an OD pedal and you'll be set.
#6
Albert King did all right on a Flying V.

Everyone is saying amps and effects make a bigger deal. This is true.
So what's in your rig?
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#7
I'd recommend listening to a few blues players or better watching some vids and decide what kind of blues sound you prefer.Humbuckers?Single coil?Semi hollow?
BB King and Buddy Guy etc sound very different.Best to have an idea so you don't regret your purchase.
#8
Honestly, you shouldn't think you need a new guitar just cause what you're playing isn't the norm that you see in the genre. Your guitar doesn't play the blues, you play the blues on your guitar. So if you can't play the blues then it doesn't matter what kind of guitar you have, you won't sound any closer with a '58 RI LP than with your Ibanez Gio. You said it's comfy already and you have no issues with it, so I would focus more on learning blues licks and practicing than worrying about your guitar being authentic for the music.


That being said, if you really want to go down that route, it depends on the tones you like. You'll find electric blues players play tons of different kinds of guitars. The more common ones would be semi-hollows like an ES-335, Les Pauls, Stratocasters and Telecasters.
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#9
Regarding guitars do you prefer single coils or humbuckers?

Amp makes a big difference. Do you like clean or dirty blues tones?
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#10
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Hey guys.
So this has been bugging me for a while, because I really think I've found something really close to what is my voice, and it's the blues. I've been learning scales and improvising more than ever, and now I feel I should buy a new guitar to suit this playing style of mine.
Thing is, I already own am Ibanez Gio (I'm sorry, I don't remember the specific model number), and it doesn't sound like the guitar I need. I mean, I'm very comfortable with it, the neck is thin but quite smooth when playing arpeggios. But I'm just not into playing metal anymore.
I am new to blues, but I've been playing for quite a few years now. Do you think it's time for a guitar change? And if so, what?


What is your favorite blues tone? Is it BB King/ Albert King, or is it SRV/Jimi Hendrix?

You guitar is not at all well suited for blues - for blues you want a strong organic tone that focuses on clean and slightly overdriven. Ibanez Gio's and RG's and superstrats in general sacrifice clean tone for heavy distortion playing- they are the polar opposite of a Fender Strat or Gibson ES 335.

Fender Strats are the most affordable blues guitars ( you get the most bang for your buck). Ibanez Artcore are ok for a budget semi-hollowbody. Check out Musicman Silhouette Special for a solid in-between HSS if you have the budget. There are a lot of good options out there.
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#11
you can play blues on damn near any guitar so that really isn't an issue. like any genre there are guitars that are more closely associated with it than others. older electric blues was played on hollow-body guitars like the ES-175 and similar. by the late 50s you would find strats and teles as well as semi-hollow guitars like gibson ES-335/45/55. once blues was picked up by the rock crowd in the mid 60s guitars like the Les Paul came into the picture (please note these are generalizations). now a days it seems that you either are playing a strat or a les paul if you play blues which can seem a bit cliche.

although yes i use a strat i also use a BC Rich Eagle which is certainly not a guitar associated with blues/blues rock. actually the guitar does a pretty good imitation of a Les Paul and is more comfortable for me to play. point of course being don't get to hung up on any specific guitar. as for amps once again while there are a few tried and true favs for certain tones any amp with a reasonable clean (blues cleans often have a bit of warmth and perhaps a little hair around the edges) and a can do a slight to moderate overdrive (an overdrive pedal can be used as well) then you are good to go.
#13
I made the same mistake you did. I got the guitar first and then decided which style music I wanted to be playing, so now I have to back track to get to where I want to be. Best advice I ever got was when I was told to listen to a lot of blues and see what I like and who was my favorite blues player. Then see what they were playing as far as guitar and amplifier, then buy that or as close to it as you can get given your budget. What I came up with was a Fender Stratocaster and a Fender tube amplifier (Super Champ X2). You may very well come up with something completely different but it will still be your sound, the way you like it! That is what is important. When you play, you like what you are hearing. That's it.
#14
It could be time for a new guitar. But I doubt it's because the guitar is wrong for what you're playing. I play country and blues on my RG all the time even though I have other guitars that most people would say are more suited for it according to tradition.

Think about how different your Ibanez is from other guitars. There's nothing about it that makes it metal unless you put EMGs in it. It's a guitar with Fender construction with a combination of Fender and Gibson pickups. It has qualities of the most popular guitars in the genre. It doesn't sound like an SG or Strat but neither does a Firebird or a Casino. You can get a good blues tone out of almost any guitar.

Your amp is going to be the most important factor in getting a good blues tone.
#15
Wow. Okay.
That's a lot of responses. Thank you guys. And going with all this advice, I think I'm going to stick with my Gio for a while now, see where it takes me.
However, maybe I need a different amp. Mine's a Hartke 10 watt, that's it. No bells and whistles attached to it. Budget will probably go up to 300 USD.
As for the song I prefer, I've grown up listening to a lot of BB and Hendrix, but I think BB is the way it goes.
Do you guys really think I need a pedal as well? Could probably spend about 150 USD or so.
#16
Carvin's Vintage16 would be a good little amp for what your planning, of you can expand your budget just a tad- new, they're going for $382. I haven't seen a used one lately.

http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/vintage-tube-amplifier-series/products/vintage16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpQtympJDO8&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_C8066Bh4&sns=em

I also found this used Nomad, the Vintage16's bigger, beefier cousin, for essentially the same price.
http://www.carvinaudio.com/products/nomad
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Carvin-Nomad-112-50w-Tube-Guitar-Amp-Combo-/172146600872?hash=item2814bcaba8:g:J44AAOSwJQdW9V9K

I'd recommend the Keeley Katana Blues Drive for a little kick in the tone.
https://reverb.com/marketplace/effects-pedals?query=keeley%20katana%20blues%20drive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WN_o5OAYXI&sns=em
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Apr 15, 2016,
#18
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Carvin's Vintage16 would be a good little amp for what your planning, of you can expand your budget just a tad- new, they're going for $382. I haven't seen a used one lately.

http://www.carvinaudio.com/collections/vintage-tube-amplifier-series/products/vintage16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpQtympJDO8&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_C8066Bh4&sns=em

I also found this used Nomad, the Vintage16's bigger, beefier cousin, for essentially the same price.
http://www.carvinaudio.com/products/nomad
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Carvin-Nomad-112-50w-Tube-Guitar-Amp-Combo-/172146600872?hash=item2814bcaba8:g:J44AAOSwJQdW9V9K

I'd recommend the Keeley Katana Blues Drive for a little kick in the tone.
https://reverb.com/marketplace/effects-pedals?query=keeley%20katana%20blues%20drive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WN_o5OAYXI&sns=em



Thanks, man. I'll look it up
#20
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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#21
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Your guitar doesn't play the blues, you play the blues on your guitar.



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#23
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Apr 15, 2016,
#24
Quote by GuitarDisaster
Wow. Okay.
That's a lot of responses. Thank you guys. And going with all this advice, I think I'm going to stick with my Gio for a while now, see where it takes me.
However, maybe I need a different amp. Mine's a Hartke 10 watt, that's it. No bells and whistles attached to it. Budget will probably go up to 300 USD.
As for the song I prefer, I've grown up listening to a lot of BB and Hendrix, but I think BB is the way it goes.
Do you guys really think I need a pedal as well? Could probably spend about 150 USD or so.


look for a used Peavey Valveking. it has a really good clean channel and the overdrive section does blues rock very well.

as for pedals that is totally up to you and what sounds you want. guitar into amp is certainly how many blues players did it past and present. now guys like SRV use overdrives and whas at the least and can add in things like delays or perhaps a chorus (reverb but that is often built into amps). Hendrix used fuzzfaces. totally up to you as there really isn't a wrong or right way to go.
#25
Building on monwobobbo's post, blues guitarists' pedalboards range from startlingly simple- as in, guitar=>tuner=>amp- to amazingly complex.

Some of the more complex ones may have a dozen or more pedals...but that doesn't mean the effects are dialed up to the max. Often, an effect may be dialed in very subtly, just barely on, in a sense.

So, depending on how you want to define your tone, fuzzes, echos, reverbs, delays, tremolos, distortions, rotary effects, etc. are all options.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#26
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Building on monwobobbo's post, blues guitarists' pedalboards range from startlingly simple- as in, guitar=>tuner=>amp- to amazingly complex.



Pfft, what self respecting blues hack uses a tuner? If you're in tune, it's not the blues.


The proper chain is alchohol => guitar => Marshall, Vox or Fender.
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#27
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Pfft, what self respecting blues hack uses a tuner? If you're in tune, it's not the blues.


The proper chain is alchohol => guitar => Marshall, Vox or Fender.

I think you'll find that the first item in any blues player's chain is a Thrill Begone-r.
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#28
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I think you'll find that the first item in any blues player's chain is a Thrill Begone-r.


And if they want to spice it up they can Hideway while they wish they were back in Sweet Home, Chicago as well.
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#29
go real old school and make it yourself out of a plank and a cigar box
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#30
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The proper chain is alchohol => guitar => Marshall, Vox or Fender.

Hmmm...given that chain, you'd think they'd learn to play in New Standard Tuning.


...'cause it's mostly in fifths.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Apr 15, 2016,
#31
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My culture is worthless and absolutely inferior to the almighty Leaf.


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#32
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Hmmm...given that chain, you'd think they'd learn to play in New Standard Tuning.


...'cause it's mostly in fifths.



what do you know alchohol comes in 5th to so i think that would work great
#33
Quote by dannyalcatraz
Carvin's Vintage16 would be a good little amp for what your planning, of you can expand your budget just a tad- new, they're going for $382. I haven't seen a used one lately.

I also found this used Nomad, the Vintage16's bigger, beefier cousin, for essentially the same price.


It's been said that the Carvin Vintage 16 is the best amp they've ever produced. It's very very good.

I prefer the Carvin Nomad/Belair (1x12 and 2x12 versions, respectively), which are both part of the "Vintage" series and share one chassis. They're listed as 50W amps, but they have a really gorgeous clean channel and a very smooth Soak (gain) channel. If you can get the Nomad used for around what the Vintage 16 costs new, it's a no-brainer.