#1
Hi everyone! I'm looking for a guitar amp under 500$ which has a very incisive and dry sound, and can handle heavy hardcore stuff (not metal) like Discordance Axis (mostly), Full Of Hell, His Hero Is Gone, Tragedy, Off Minor, Envy but also lighter stuff like Slint (mostly), Low, Nick Cave, Swans, Joy Division. Maybe a late 80's/early 90's type of sound? I'm thinking about a Peavey Bandit 112. What do you guys think?
#2
Randall is the correct answer if you must go with a solid state amp for less than $500.
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#5
Quote by diabolical
Look at the Marshall DSL40C but you might need a boost pedal. Under $500 is a very heavy task, maybe if you can land a used DSL40C or Peavey XXX or 6505.

+1 to all 3 being under $500. XXX's can be had at $300, I've seen it multiple times.

Even more cost efficient is a Peavey Ultra (either 1X12 or 2X12) that can be had at $300 or under.

Jet City 50W's are damn affordable and efficient as well.
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#6
FWIW I have a SS Randall RG 75 1X12 combo with a speaker upgrade, it gets some damn good metal tones, I don't play it much because I have two killer tube amps, but it does sound good
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#7
Quote by Maidenheadsteve
+1 to all 3 being under $500. XXX's can be had at $300, I've seen it multiple times.

Even more cost efficient is a Peavey Ultra (either 1X12 or 2X12) that can be had at $300 or under.

Jet City 50W's are damn affordable and efficient as well.


+1 used tube combo would be the way to go.

don't buy a bandit.
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Quote by Maidenheadsteve
+1 to all 3 being under $500. XXX's can be had at $300, I've seen it multiple times.

Even more cost efficient is a Peavey Ultra (either 1X12 or 2X12) that can be had at $300 or under.

Jet City 50W's are damn affordable and efficient as well.


+1

although peavey ultras are becoming increasingly rare used since they are 20+ yrs old now
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#9
I don't really think of the Marshall DSL, Peavey Ultra/XXX amps as having "dry / incisive" gain.

When I think dry tube amps, I think VHT and Krank.

When I think dry ss amps, I think Dimebag / Randall tone.
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#10
Quote by ThunderPunk
I don't really think of the Marshall DSL, Peavey Ultra/XXX amps as having "dry / incisive" gain.

When I think dry tube amps, I think VHT and Krank.

When I think dry ss amps, I think Dimebag / Randall tone.


Krank is actually not a bad idea, and they are fairly cheap. There are a couple Rev 212 combos on used.guitarcenter.com right now for like, $550.
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#11
Did someone say Krank?

Yeah they wouldn't be a bad choice
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Morley Bad Horsie 2
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#13
Quote by ThunderPunk
I don't really think of the Marshall DSL, Peavey Ultra/XXX amps as having "dry / incisive" gain.


Well you just dial in about half of what you would for metal, and the Marshalls especially get very dry and incisive. I agree though, VHT would probably be the first one to recommend but that'd be another $1500 more or so
#14
Quote by diabolical
Aren't Krank's a fuzzy mess though? Maybe that's not going to work with his style?


The first gen Rev and Krankenstein were a bit fuzzy and because of that they get a bad rep, but really after those they were generally pretty nice. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but I personally think they are the perfect midway between a modern, Mesa like sound and a more old-school 800 thing.
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Quote by diabolical
Aren't Krank's a fuzzy mess though? Maybe that's not going to work with his style?

not really
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2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
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Quote by dementiacaptain
The first gen Rev and Krankenstein were a bit fuzzy and because of that they get a bad rep, but really after those they were generally pretty nice. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but I personally think they are the perfect midway between a modern, Mesa like sound and a more old-school 800 thing.

Yep
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate