#1
So I've just bought myself a Line 6 UX2 and I've been using POD farm. The only problem is, I really can't any decent tones and all of them sound fuzzy as hell. All of the tones sound like they're coming out of a 15 pound amp with a terrible distortion.

All of my gear is pretty decent apart from my speakers. I've got myself a pair of 10W Logitech Z200's which probably cost me around 20 quid. Now they're nowhere near studio grade monitors... But could they actually be bad enough to give my guitar such a bad tone?

I just wanna make sure this could be the issue before I go out and buy some studio speakers to find out my tone is still awful

Thanks a lot
#2
I use absolutely garbage speakers for monitoring and I can still get decent tones out of what I use. Are you sure it's not the amp models or the tones you have dialed in? I mean, you have an interface so it would be easy enough to try some free VSTs and see if you can get any sound improvements that way.


At least then, if you try more emulators you can get an idea if its actually your speakers that are the culprit or maybe just amp models you aren't crazy about within POD farm.
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I use absolutely garbage speakers for monitoring and I can still get decent tones out of what I use. Are you sure it's not the amp models or the tones you have dialed in? I mean, you have an interface so it would be easy enough to try some free VSTs and see if you can get any sound improvements that way.


At least then, if you try more emulators you can get an idea if its actually your speakers that are the culprit or maybe just amp models you aren't crazy about within POD farm.


Thanks for the quick reply!

Well its great to know I shouldn't (hopefully) need to buy expensive speakers then haha :P it might just be me, I'm completely new to using VSTs. I'll try a few others see if I can find a difference. Again, thanks

EDIT: Oh and VST's, do you mean like Guitar Rig/Bias effects and all those sort of programs? (Sorry completely new at this )
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Thanks for the quick reply!

Well its great to know I shouldn't (hopefully) need to buy expensive speakers then haha :P it might just be me, I'm completely new to using VSTs. I'll try a few others see if I can find a difference. Again, thanks


Quote by diabolical at #33984913
Try on headphones instead, but it sounds to me like you just can't dial it in right.



You could try headphones as well.


GR and Bias are VST based so similar things yes. Most of them aren't an all in one like those programs though.


As for Free VSTs I always recommend:

Amps:

LePou Hybrit (Plexi/800 emulation): http://lepouplugins.blogspot.ca/2009/08/hybrit-series.html
LePou Lecto (Recto emulation): http://lepouplugins.blogspot.ca/2010/10/lecto.html
Nick Crow 8505 (6505 emulation): http://nickcrowlab.blogspot.ca/2009/05/nick-crow-8505-lead-tube-guitar-amp-vst.html
TSE X50 (6505 again): http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=1405

Pedals:

TSE 808 (Tubescreamer emulation): https://www.tseaudio.com/software/tse808
Guitar gadget (some reverbs and delays): https://musicalentropy.wordpress.com/downloads/


Cabinet and Speaker impulses:

LePou LeCab (cabinet impulse loader): http://lepouplugins.blogspot.ca/2010/12/lecab2-vst-for-windows.html
Kalthallen Impulses (some free 1960 cab impulses with different mics and positions): http://cabs.kalthallen.de/


I do want to add that your speakers do obviously effect the tone that you're hearing but you should still be able to have something usable even with cheaper speakers.
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#6
My headphones aren't built for hearing guitar either, but I eventually plan to get a better set.

I'll check them out, thanks a bunch!
#7
If you are getting a nasty/scratchy sound, then most likely you are not using guitar cabinet emulations. Most of the freeware needs speaker emulator loaded after the amp as they are not all in one. I like NadIR for that, unless you have something else.

You can get the Guitar Rig 5 Player trial, which has a Marshall Plexi simulation and an overdrive built in (think pretty much EVH sound).

Also the Boogex is easy to dial and you can get some really good results with that.
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#8
Can your speakers influence how your guitar will sound when using an audio interface?


Nah.
#9
On playback, yeah the speakers will influence how the guitar sounds when it comes from those speakers - but it won't affect the recorded the signal itself.

If you use crappy speakers you'll find it very, very difficult to mix and master correctly. Crappy speakers simply don't have the frequency response real audio monitors do - you get what you pay for. For amateur productions you can get away with some decent $50 speakers, but try and get some that are designed for music or are quite neutral (as in, not gaming speakers because of the bass boost).

Also the pod farm... It's not a good device.

Try using the BIAS dekstop free trial and see if you can spot the difference (it should be massive)
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While I normally get drastically different results using the virtual amp controls, cabinet selection and mic placement - Audio Technica ATH-M50X Headphones >> Bose earbuds >>> internal MacBook speakers.
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#11
Imo, the speakers/headphones are the single most important thing for good sound, aside from the signal you're putting into it, i.e. your guitar + FX.

However, when you're creating a good mix, or crafting high quality audio, the goal is to have it sound good through any sort of setup people might have available. So even the best mastering engineers will play their mixes through a number of poor speakers in a number of situations and see how it fares on more budget systems.

So, you should be able to get a decent tone, which sounds like a good tone going through bad speakers.

One way that you can make up for your crappy speakers, is EQ and multiband compression, and then maybe EQ again. You should be able to get it sounding alright, but what sounds good on your crappy speakers might sound crappy everywhere else, because you're making up for the inconsistencies across the frequency range of your speakers.

Poor speakers are usually really bad at handling higher volumes also, so you may have to have everything pretty quiet, in order to get the best tone your speakers are capable of.
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