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#1
Saying Johnny Depp was abusive. I don't know these people and I don't know the whole situation but I'm very skeptical. You're already a successful actress, why are you asking for spousal support.


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#4
No opinion. I can see why one might be skeptical but on the other hand it is unbelievably shitty how often people are disbelieved wrt things like this and I am not a shitty person.
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#5
Amber? I don't even know her.
There's no such thing; there never was. Where I am going you cannot follow me now.
#6
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No opinion. I can see why one might be skeptical but on the other hand it is unbelievably shitty how often people are disbelieved wrt things like this and I am not a shitty person.

Well this counts as an opinion, but yeah all of this.
#7
I watched Johnny Depp on Graham Norton a while back and he seemed like a dick. That is my opinion on the matter
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#8
Johnny Depp has the face of a man who would beat a woman, but I don't know either of them so I have no opinion.
#9
i've got an amber beard yes
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#10
sure, johnny depp's got that whole byronic hero vibe going, right -- dark and aloof but very sensitive underneath all those scarves -- not hard to believe he is going fucking heathcliff on women
#11
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sure, johnny depp's got that whole byronic hero vibe going, right -- dark and aloof but very sensitive underneath all those scarves -- not hard to believe he is going fucking heathcliff on women

Wait, which heathcliff?
#13
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Wait, which heathcliff?


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#14
I know shit all about this situation. If it's true good for her for standing up.
Hopefully it goes to trial where experts and smarter people like detectives, judges, etc, figure out if it's true or not.

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I don't know the whole situation but I'm very skeptical. You're already a successful actress, why are you asking for spousal support.


Are there documented cases of wives being proven to fake being abused to gain $$?

It makes me think about the relationship between media and the justice system, specially when an issue like this gains a lot of traction but ends up unresolved, like when the parties settle out of court.

Is it ok for a story to be brought up by the media, where there are conflicting sides of the story in a "criminal" manner, but it never being resolved by the judicial system and instead if being left up to people to figure out in blogs/reports/etc? What if said media pushes a certain narrative which may not be the correct one had said issue ended up in court? Or should we leave the two of them completely separated and not care whether it goes to court or not (i.e it's good if it's settled out of court and stuff like that) and figure out how to deal with it using other means?

EDIT: For example, if this issue doesn't end up in court (someone removes the charges, they settle, etc) ... what are we supposed to think? Should we believe Amber? Should we believe Johnny? Should we just go by random blogs and posts on the Web to know what to believe and judge Amber and Johnny based on it?

Should we start boycotting Johnny Depp's films because he's a wife beater? Should we not watch any of Amber's films from now on because she's a horrible human being that is able to lie about being beaten to get more money? Should we just go "meh" and ignore it completely?
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#15
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It's kind of unbelievable how many people automatically believe her.

what
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#16
the real question here is whether it was his fist that gave her the black eye or if she just decided to try sitting through the lone ranger
#18
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I can tell you for a fact that it's true that he probably knows.
#19
Quote by gonzaw at #33991906
Are there documented cases of wives being proven to fake being abused to gain $$?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244792/Soldier-uses-GoPro-camera-prove-estranged-wife-s-abuse-catches-grabbing-genitals-custody-handover.html
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ooh look at me i'm ERIKLENSHERR and i work at fancy pants desk jobs and wear ties and ply barely legal girls with weed and booze i'm such a classy motherfucker.
#20
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what


What tends people to believe she's right and johnny is a domestic abuser?

the same could be said for either side if you want, if that somehow makes it easier to digest.
#21
From all the info I've seen I 100% believe her and am on team fuck Johnny depp

Dude isn't even a good actor anyway
#22
Quote by severed-metal at #33991915
What tends people to believe she's right and johnny is a domestic abuser?

the same could be said for either side if you want, if that somehow makes it easier to digest.

Innocent until proven guilty is a construct of the patriarchy duh.
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#23
idk I'm reading counter-accusations from a comedian I like saying she's a liar and he's a good bloke
and I remember that this is why I don't get sucked into drama
let the courts have it out
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#24
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Innocent until proven guilty is a construct of the patriarchy duh.


What about when these issues don't end up with a clearcut conclusion at a trial, yet they still linger in our global social setting?

If there is no proof of either innocence or guilt but the issue remains ... what is there?
#25
Idk, who am I to have an opinion on this

These people are nothing to me
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#26
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You're already a successful actress, why are you asking for spousal support.


I assumed this same thing that all famous actors are filthy rich.
But she revealed her finances to the court and if it wasn't lies she doesn't make shit.
I make more money than her.
It says her biggest payday was being in that Magic Mike movie and only got like 300k for it.
#28
Do I believe Amber heard what?
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#29
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If there is no proof of either innocence or guilt but the issue remains ... what is there?

Innocence is assumed until guilt is proven. You don't prove innocence.
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#31
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Why the fuck do you dweebs care?
Go jack off again or something.

Because talking about the gorilla got old
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#32
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Innocence is assumed until guilt is proven. You don't prove innocence.


Johnny Depp is innocent regarding beating his wife
Amber Heard is innocent regarding lying to gain more money from Depp

Which one is it? Are both innocents until anything happens? If you say Depp is innocent until proven guilty, then wouldn't that mean Amber Heard is lying until Depp is proven guilty?

Or does it mean we should effectively ignore this issue until then? But if no court decision ends up happening, what happens then?

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum but in a wider social setting. If there is no definitive court decision then the social impact is still there and the issue needs to be addressed, specially when it's important.
For example, people have started judging Bill Cosby and changing their attitudes towards him when his trial hasn't even ended yet (so technically he's innocent). The social impact is still there, and will still be there regardless of there being a definitive "answer" or not
#33
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Why the fuck do you dweebs care?
Go jack off again or something.


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#34
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Why the fuck do you dweebs care?
Go jack off again or something.

Wow look at this guy, too cool to masturbate. What's next, you don't eat?
#36
you know, if doug stanhope says he didnt do it, i believe him

if doug stanhope is anything, hes honest
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#37
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Why the fuck do you dweebs care?
Go jack off again or something.
Aha.
Nice user title.
It's cute.
#38
These accusations are the WORST of the worst to try and find the truth out of.

My Dad's ex wife was a psycho who blackmailed him into giving into giving her custody over my sister by beating herself up and then claiming it was my dad that did it. This included scalding herself on an iron, throwing herself down the stairs and she even threatened to cut her throat in front of him and said they'd blame it on him because he's the man and because of the previous damage on her body they'd think he was an abuser for sure.

Even though it was her that slept with my Dads best friend (he walked in on it happening).

Oh and btw, to this day in 20 and a half years of my life I've never met my half sister. Since the divorce she has met with my dad about 4 times and has revealed that she has had lots of counselling with the main talking point being about not being able to see him and having to live with her mum who she has found out to be a pathological liar.
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#39
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Idk, who am I to have an opinion on this

These people are nothing to me


my only opinion is that Amber Heard sounds like a mid-00's porn star. A run-of-the-mill one at that.

That's what happens when your name is Amber.

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#40
Ive been aroud enough domestic abuse to say who fucking knows cause i've seen straightforward cases but also 'i will hurt myself to frame someone' cases
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