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#1
In UK law a woman cannot rape.

Rape requires the insertion of a penis. While a woman could effectively do the same with an object, it'd only be considered 'sexual assault by penetration', not rape. Therefore, only men, or a trans with a penis, can be charged and convicted of rape.

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#3
Wasn't there some study done that proved a man can get erect without arousal when being raped? I thought I read that somewhere.
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#4
If we are going to stick with the narrative that gender isn't defined by genitalia then some women do have a penis, therefore women can rape.
#5
men cannot be raped =/= women cannot rape.

Otherwise soap in a prison shower block would be a perfectly innocent thing.
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#6
Quote by genghisgandhi
no because the sentencing would be the same.

What part of the ass does this claim come from?
Men are already sentenced much harsher than women for the same crimes that can be and are commited by any gender. I don't see why that would automatically change in this scenario
Last edited by EyeNon15 at Jun 6, 2016,
#7
Quote by EyeNon15
What part of the ass does this claim come from?
Men are already sentenced much harsher than women for the same crimes that can be and are commited by any gender. I don't see why that would automatically change in this scenario

okay, the sentencing guidelines are the same, they both have the same minimum sentence. at least in the UK

it comes from the part of my ass that sat in a UK crim law class two years ago
#8
Quote by genghisgandhi
okay, the sentencing guidelines are the same, they both have the same minimum sentence. at least in the UK

it comes from the part of my ass that sat in a UK crim law class two years ago

This is you bitching about semantics that don't practically make a difference.
#11
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Wasn't there some study done that proved a man can get erect without arousal when being raped? I thought I read that somewhere.


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#12
Quote by EyeNon15
What part of the ass does this claim come from?
Men are already sentenced much harsher than women for the same crimes that can be and are commited by any gender. I don't see why that would automatically change in this scenario


Because when a man says no he really means yes, thus women get off lightly
#13
With equal rights comes equal responsibility and blah blah blah that means the law is stupid

I'd like to think being forced into having sex with a fat ugly woman is just as bad as a woman being raped
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#14
Quote by JackSaints
With equal rights comes equal responsibility and blah blah blah that means the law is stupid

I'd like to think being forced into having sex with a fat ugly woman is just as bad as a woman being raped

Being forced into having sex is basically what rape is though....it doesn't matter what the person looks like
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#16
Quote by RAB11 at #33997621
men cannot be raped =/= women cannot rape.

Otherwise soap in a prison shower block would be a perfectly innocent thing.

yeah

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that's sounds pretty dumb to me

yeah
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#17
Quote by JackSaints
I'd like to think being forced into having sex with a fat ugly woman is just as bad as a woman being raped

The way the rapist looks couldn't possibly be more irrelevant.
#18
In fairness, he didn't say anything about how relevent the weight and looks of his hypothetical rapist is.
Really the only relevent part of his scenario is "forced to have sex"

Same way if someone says "that gross crackhead raped her"
The grossness and drug addiction arent the relevent part.
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#20
Well no, he's saying the thing that would make being forced into sex would be the fact the woman was fat and ugly.

Or that the only way it'd be 'forcing' him into it is if it was a fat ugly woman.

Because, you know, he posts on a forum so there's no chance he's turning down an attractive woman.
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#21
Quote by RAB11
Well no, he's saying the thing that would make being forced into sex would be the fact the woman was fat and ugly.

Or that the only way it'd be 'forcing' him into it is if it was a fat ugly woman.

Because, you know, he posts on a forum so there's no chance he's turning down an attractive woman.

Ah, so if a woman refuses to have sex with me simply because I'm too ugly, then I can force her to and it won't be rape?
Last edited by EyeNon15 at Jun 6, 2016,
#22
Of course not. That's not what I'm saying.

But you knew that.
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#23
Quote by RAB11
Well no, he's saying the thing that would make being forced into sex would be the fact the woman was fat and ugly.

Or that the only way it'd be 'forcing' him into it is if it was a fat ugly woman.

Because, you know, he posts on a forum so there's no chance he's turning down an attractive woman.
But this is the internet we're talking about. He could be one of those fabled fedora tippers who says m'lady and rejects her and skates off into the sunset.
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#24
What are you saying?
That it shouldn't be considered rape simply because someone is shallow and doesn't want to fuck a fat chick?
#26
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#27
Sounds about right, I mean a woman shoving a dildo in a guys ass isnt rape because it doesn't involve a vagina. Only vaginas can be raped.
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#28
Quote by EyeNon15 at #33997793
What are you saying?
That it shouldn't be considered rape simply because someone is shallow and doesn't want to fuck a fat chick?


No, he's not saying that either.
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#29
Well it looks like he's just agreeing with me then because it looks like he's just saying that "fat and ugly" are the only reasons that he wouldn't want to have sex. And that if an attractive woman wanted it then he would be all for it.

No one has to provide a reason for not wanting to have sex but being not physically attracted to someone is a perfectly valid one.
#30
Quote by JackSaints
I'd like to think being forced into having sex with a fat ugly woman is just as bad as a woman being raped



So what ARE you trying to say as it would seem something is being lost here in the interperatation? Are you saying that it should less than or not at all a crime if you are forced by some good looking woman that is crazy and has a gun or slips something into your drink? Because she is good looking? I mean she could have any number of STD's so...

Another exercise in futility but I still can't help but watch!

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#31
"forced" is the only part that matters.
Otherwise you could nitpick any such statement.

"Hey that tall guy forced me to have sex with him!"

"Oh so what you are saying is that it's less of a crime if a short guy did it, ok I see how YOU are"
#32
I consider it a problem of terms rather than actions. That we treat sexual assault as lesser than rape where sexual intercourse is involved, is the problem.

This argument of course relies on the presumption that sexual assault and rape have different connotations, and that those connotations carry different weight
#34
Quote by Evilnine
So what ARE you trying to say as it would seem something is being lost here in the interperatation? Are you saying that it should less than or not at all a crime if you are forced by some good looking woman that is crazy and has a gun or slips something into your drink? Because she is good looking? I mean she could have any number of STD's so...

Another exercise in futility but I still can't help but watch!



I'm saying this, basically:

Quote by RAB11
Well no, he's saying the thing that would make being forced into sex would be the fact the woman was fat and ugly.

Or that the only way it'd be 'forcing' him into it is if it was a fat ugly woman.

Because, you know, he posts on a forum so there's no chance he's turning down an attractive woman.


I'll risk the STDs if there's a condom about
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#35
I would feel very violated if a woman raped me. I don't care if she is pretty or ugly, sex is not for you bitch, fuck off. You can pay me for a model of my dick, but that's as far as you are gonna get.
#36
Quote by JackSaints
I'd like to think being forced into having sex with a fat ugly woman is just as bad as a woman being raped

this one time, I was raped by a pretty cute guy
he was confused by me crying, so he pinned me down and stuffed his dick down my throat for a while to drown out the noise. there was no one else home, so no one heard me anyway.


I assure you that him being cute did not make a difference.
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#37
In that guys case he's already said that the woman's looks would make a difference to him though.
#38
I hate that guys are always like it'd only be rape if she's ugly cause if she was attractive I would naturally just want to fuck her anyway. It's not like it would be anything like normal sex, if she was gonna rape you it's gonna probably be violent and not really care about the well being of you or your donger.

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#39
yeah it's how violent they are and whether they could have STDs that's the problem, not the whole, y'know, restriction of autonomy or mental trauma thing
#40
Hey if they guy is experiencing pain and humiliation while being forced to do something against his will, if he looks up and sees a pretty face that makes all the pain and humiliation go away that's totally believable
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