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Hello, and welcome to the rec thread!

This thread contains everything you need to know about metal and all its offshoots. It may seem daunting at first but the recommendations we as a forum have put together are concise and well-organised. Remember that if you want something specific or simply can't be arsed to trawl through this resource, you can (and should) post in the thread and ask our regulars.
~duncang


Table of Contents:
1) A Brief History Of Metal
2) Heavy Metal
3) Speed / Thrash Metal
4) Death Metal
5) Black Metal
6) Doom Metal
7) (Crossover) Thrash
8) Grindcore
9) Industrial Metal
10) Folk Metal
11) Power Metal
12) Progressive Metal
13) Post-Metal / Experimental
14) Deathcore
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A Brief History Of Metal

Heavy metal music rose out of popular music in opposition to both the dominant culture and the rock counterculture. Its heritage was equal parts the heavy guitar rock that replaced the blues, progressive rock and the neoclassical sounds of horror movie music. It is believed that the term was first used as a genre descriptor in a review of 'Kingdom Come', the 1970 debut of Sir Lord Baltimore.

1968-1978
First, bands like Blue Cheer demonstrated the distorted sound, then Iggy Pop and the Stooges brought proto-punk into the equation, and then progressive rock bands like King Crimson and Jethro Tull expanded on the idea. Finally, Black Sabbath released the first fully-fledged heavy metal album in 1970, 'Black Sabbath'. Following this, bands merged the Led Zeppelin style of Celtic folk-influenced hard rock with Sabbath, and cemented heavy metal as a genre. However, it immediately began to homogenize itself, and this brought about the creation of underground metal. Remember 'Black Sabbath' had made an impact on popular culture; it was here that the concept of metal as an underground subculture began.

1979-1987
Heavy metal became popular in the 1970s and got absorbed by the hedonistic, individualistic, pleasure-seeking culture of the time. This produced a type of stadium heavy metalish rock that sold well but lost sight of the artistic ambitions of the genre. At the same time, bands like the Sex Pistols were popularizing the punk sound that had intensified since innovators like MC5, Iggy Pop and Link Wray began experimenting with it in the 1960s. In response, the more alert heavy metal bands added more gothic and neoclassical elements to distinguish themselves from the fray. The fusion of these two threads, hardcore punk and neoclassical heavy metal, produced an explosion of genres, but only two, speed metal and thrash, matured directly.

1988-1992
Now fully formed via tangible scenes in Scandinavia and the USA, death metal flourished. With this, however, it found itself under onslaught from gazillions of imitators. Earlier forms like heavy metal and thrash metal began to fall out of favour although Metallica, the genre's most popular mainstream exponent, filled stadiums at their commercial peak. The so-called 'Second Wave' of black metal got fully underway in Norway, with a new sound and less tolerant ideology.

1993-1996
Death metal became a field of Suffocation clones, and bands increasingly turned toward either going "technical" to distinguish themselves, or assimilating themselves into mainstream styles like rock (Asphyx - God Cries), jazz (Pestilence - Spheres), funk (Mordred - In this Life) or punk (Pyrexia - Hatredangeranddisgust). At the same time, black metal came close to being the most popular style of metal to come from the underground, mainly because its primitive riffs and nocturnal melodies were part nightmare and part lullaby. As soon as its popularity grew via the Second Wave, black metal too became inundated in imitators, although some late forming bands and middle-era albums by classic bands helped flesh out its style and bring it to maturity.

1997-2008
Since 1997, and in particular the dawn of the internet, metal has diversified and adopted new influences to varied success. Black metal bands continue the style, either by attempting to expand traditionalism or "new" combinations made of black metal plus any number of already extant genres. Death metal continues with some absorption by metalcore, which has created a queasily hybrid style that few fans of the older material want to hear, and many newer fans find too mixed for their tastes. What has radically expanded are the continuation of speed metal and neoclassical heavy metal, power metal, and the skipped generation descendant of thrash, metalcore, which reverses the thrash pattern by putting hardcore riffs into metal-style songs. The sub-genres are converging again by becoming more similar, which may enable newer acts to get more distance from convention and find a style in which writing makes sense.
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
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Heavy Metal

Essentially the creation of four drugged out musicians from Birmingham, Heavy Metal began as an attempt in the realm of Popular Music to scare the shit out of people. Heavy Metal was constructed from elements of Progressive, Psychedelic, and Hard Rock, Blues, and Jazz. Beginning with slow and sinister riffs, the genre eventually molded into its own entity where melodies were constructed from sequences of overly distorted power chords.

Starting Points:
Accept - Balls To The Wall ~ Metal Heart
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath ~ Paranoid
Dio - Holy Diver
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden ~ Powerslave ~ The Number of the Beast
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Motörhead - Overkill ~ Bomber

Best Of:
Brocas Helm - Into Battle ~ Defender of the Crown
King Diamond - Abigail
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic ~ Open the Gates
Manowar - Into Glory Ride ~ Sign of the Hammer
Running Wild - Death or Glory ~ Black Hand Inn
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King

Further Listening:
Atlantean Kodex - The Golden Bough
Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire ~ King of the Dead
Dark Forest - s/t
Doomsword - Let Battle Commence ~ My Name Will Live On
Enforcer - Into the Night ~ Diamonds
Grand Magus - Iron Will
Heavy load - Death or Glory
Isen Torr - Mighty and Superior
Legend - Fröm the Fjörds
Metal Church - s/t ~ The Dark
Ostrogoth - Ecstasy and Danger
Oz - Fire In The Brain
Slauter Xstroyes - Winter Kill
(The Lord Weird) Slough Feg - Down Among the Dead Men ~ Traveller
Sortilège - Métamorphose
Tyrant - Legions of the Dead ~ Too Late to Pray
Twisted Tower Dire - Crest of the Martyrs
Warlord - ...And the Cannons of Destruction Have Begun
Wolf - s/t ~ The Black Flame ~ Ravenous



NWOBHM

The New Wave of British Heavy Metal was a movement beginning in the late 70's / early 80's, involving a surplus of bands playing in the classic, British, Judas Priest influenced Metal style.

Essentials:
Angel Witch - s/t
Cloven Hoof - Cloven Hoof ~ A Sultan's Ransom
Diamond Head - Lightning To the Nations
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Satan - Court In The Act
Saxon - Strong Arm of the Law

Further Listening:
Blitzkrieg - A Time of Changes
Demon - Night of the Demon ~ The Unexpected Guest
Desolation Angels - Desolation Angels
Holocaust - The Nightcomers
Grim Reaper - See You in Hell
Jaguar - Power Games
Raven - Rock Until You Drop
Saracen - Heroes, Saints & Fools
Tank - Filth Hounds of Hades
Tygers of Pan Tang - Spellbound



Speed / Thrash Metal

Influenced by the emergence of Punk and eventually Hardcore, Speed Metal bands took a leaf from the Motörhead book by playing fast series of often pedal-point styled, muffled power chord progressions, and often precise technical riffing.

Starting Points:
Metallica - Kill 'em All ~ Ride the Lightning
Exodus - Bonded by Blood
Slayer - Show No Mercy ~ Haunting the Chapel ~ Hell Awaits
Testament - The Legacy
Sodom - Agent Orange

Best Of:
Artillery - By Inheritance
Coroner - No More Color ~ Punishment for Decadence
Obliveon - From This Day Forward
Razor - Evil Invaders ~ Executioner's Song ~ Violent Restitution
Sabbat - History of a Time to Come ~ Dreamweaver
Voivod - Killing Technology

Further Listening:
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Deathrow - Raging Steel ~ Deception Ignored
Deathwish - At the Edge of Damnation ~ Demon Preacher
Desaster - Hellfire's Dominion ~ A Touch of Medieval Darkness
Destruction - Infernal Overkill ~ Sentence of Death
Detente - Recognise No Authority
Hobbs' Angel of Death - s/t
Holy Terror - Mind Wars ~ Terror and Submission
Infernal Majesty - None Shall Defy
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good! ~ Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
Mortal Sin - Mayhemic Destruction
Onslaught - The Force
Realm - Endless War
Sacrifice - Forward to Termination ~ Soldiers of Misfortune
Sadus - Illusions (Chemical Exposure) ~ Swallowed in Black
Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare
Watchtower - Energetic Disassembly ~ Control and Resistance
Wehrmacht - Shark Attack


Death/Thrash Metal

Generally influenced by the First Wave of Black Metal, these bands took the model and logic of Speed Metal to an unprecedented extreme.

Essentials:
Kreator - Pleasure to Kill
Possessed - Seven Churches
Sepultura - Bestial Devastation ~ Morbid Visions ~ Schizophrenia
Merciless - The Awakening
Morbid Saint - Spectrum of Death
Demolition Hammer - Tortured Existence ~ Epidemic of Violence

Further Listening:
Devastation - Signs of Life ~ Idolatry
Exhorder - Slaughter in the Vatican
Grotesque - In the Embrace of Evil
Hellwitch - Syzygial Miscreancy
Morbid Scream - The Signal to Attack: 1986-1990
Mutilator - Immortal Force
Pestilence - Malleus Maleficarum
Revenant - Prophecies of a Dying World
Rigor Mortis - s/t ~ Freaks
Ripping Corpse - Dreaming with the Dead
Slaughter - Strappado
Slaughter Lord - Thrash 'til Death 86-87
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
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Death Metal

Death Metal songs are constructed from a series of multiple riffs, thrown together in a "riff-salad" fashion. Thematically similar riffs provide nuanced repetition, while drastic, often unexpected, tempo changes create a jarring effect. Riffs are generally totally chromatic melodies meant to provide a distorting and horrifying impact, while unrelenting rhythm pummels the listener. Concepts of death, war, decay, evil, religion, torture, and other horrifying truths are amoralistically examined within the lyrics.

Starting Points:
Death - Scream Bloody Gore ~ Leprosy ~ Spiritual Healing ~ Human
Deicide - Deicide
Master - s/t ~ On the Seventh Day God Created... Master
Obituary - Slowly We Rot ~ Cause of Death
Pestilence - Consuming Impulse

The Best:
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Deicide - Legion
Gorguts - Obscura
Incantation - Onward to Golgotha
Massacra - Enjoy the Violence
Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Demilich - Nespithe
Morpheus Descends - Ritual of Infinity
Autopsy - Severed Survival

Primary Essentials:
Bolt Thrower - Realm Of Chaos:Slaves To Darkness ~ The IVth Crusade
Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes
Dismember - Like an Ever-Flowing Stream
Gorguts - Considered Dead ~ Erosion of Sanity
Immolation - Dawn of Possession ~ Here in After ~ Close to a World Below
Incantation - Diabolical Conquest
Infester - To the Depths... In Degredation
Massacra - Final Holocaust
Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick ~ Covenant
Necrophobic - The Nocturnal Silence
Suffocation - Breeding the Spawn ~ Pierced From Within

Secondary Essentials:
Atrocity - Hallucinations ~ Todessehnsucht
Carnage - Dark Recollections
Chasm, The - Deathcult for Eternity: The Triumph ~ Procession to the Infraworld
Cryptopsy - Blasphemy Made Flesh ~ None So Vile
Darkthrone - Soulside Journey
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Fleshcrawl - Descend into the Absurd ~ Impurity
God Macabre - The Winterlong
Kataklysm - Sorcery ~ Temple of Knowledge
Molested - Blod Draum ~ Stormvold
Order From Chaos - Stillbirth Machine
Sinister - Cross the Styx ~ Diabolical Summoning
Therion - Beyond Sanctorum


Death/Doom

Death/Doom, a variant of Death Metal, brings more focus on plodding, dirge style riffs, borrowed and re-worked from Doom Metal. Focusing more on oppressive and crushing atmosphere than on the up-tempo blast and scissor beat happy percussion styles of Death Metal, these bands bring the extremity of the early 90's together with the original heaviness of bands like Saint Vitus and Pentagram. Melodic and ethereal acoustic guitar sections are utilized by some bands, and a small pocket full of Gothic inspired "Melodic Death/Doom" made a strong impact in the international scene.

Best Of:
Autopsy - Mental Funeral
dISEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence Into the Peripheral
Incantation - Mortal Throne of Nazarene
Winter - Into Darkness
Asphyx - The Rack ~ Last One On Earth

Further Listening:
Amorphis - The Karelian Isthmus
Cathedral - Forest Of Equilibrium
Ceremonium - Into The Autumn Shade ~ No Longer Silent
Cianide - The Dying Truth ~ A Descent Into Hell
Coffins - Mortuary in Darkness ~ The Other Side Of Blasphemy
Divine Eve - As The Angels Wept
Goatlord - Reflections of the Solstice
Gorement - The Ending Quest
Paradise Lost - Lost Paradise ~ Gothic
Ras Algethi - Oneiricon


Melodic Death Metal

Melodic Death Metal combines the melody of the New Wave of British heavy metal (NWOBHM) with the intensity of Death Metal. Originating in Gothenburg, Sweden, the genre combined the harmony style and groove melodies of heavy metal with the harsh thrashy sound and vocals of death metal. Later the genre evolved with additions such as keyboards.

Essentials:
At The Gates - The Red in the Sky is Ours ~ Gardens of Grief
Intestine Baalism - An Anatomy of the Beast ~ Banquet in the Darkness ~ Ultimate Instinct
Cenotaph - Riding Our Black Oceans
Sentenced - North From Here
Eucharist - A Velvet Creation ~ Mirrorworlds

Further Listening:
Arsis - A Celebration of Guilt ~ A Diamond For Disease
Carcass – Heartwork
Dark Tranquility - The Gallery ~ Skydancer ~ Character
Insomnium - In the Halls of Awaiting~Since the Day it All Came Down ~ Above the Weeping World
Quo Vadis - Forever... ~ Day into Night ~ Defiant Imagination
Vehemence - God Was Created
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Black Metal

First Wave Black Metal

The first wave of Black Metal consisted of various disparate bands who took the ideas presented in Heavy Metal and Speed / Thrash Metal one step further. This marked the formation of the underground. The pioneering bands and notable works in this genre are as follows:

Bathory - s/t ~ The Return ~ Under the Sign of the Black Mark ~ Blood Fire Death
Blasphemy - Fallen Angel of Doom ~ Blood Upon the Altar
Bulldozer - The Day of Wrath
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales ~ Emperor’s Return ~ To Mega Therion
Hellhammer - Satanic Rites ~ Apocalyptic Raids (1990 A.D.)
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Mercyful Fate - Melissa ~ Don’t Break the Oath
N.M.E - Unholy Death
Root - Zjevení / The Revelation ~ Hell Symphony
Sarcofago - INRI ~ Rotting
Sodom - Obsessed by Cruelty ~ Persecution Mania
Venom - Welcome to Hell ~ Black Metal ~ At War With Satan
Vulcano - Bloody Vengeance


Second Wave and Beyond

The second wave of Black Metal coalesced primarily in Norway. Highly theatrical, these bands focused on constructing dark atmosphere from melodic guitar work which combined traditional scales with chromatic coloring. Drums often vary little, opting for a more constant hypnotic beat over which sonic layers can be built. Approaches range from primitive assaults to highly complex symphonic works.

Starting Points:
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky ~ Under a Funeral Moon
Dissection - The Somberlain ~ Storm of the Light's Bane
Gorgoroth - Pentagram ~ Anti-Christ
Immortal - At the Heart of Winter
Varathron - His Majesty at the Swamp

The Best:
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom. Sathanas
Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Immortal - Pure Holocaust
Summoning - Dol Guldur
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Ildjarn-Nidhogg - s/t
Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi
Graveland - Following the Voice of Blood

Primary Essentials:
Absu - Barathrum ~ The Sun of Tiphareth ~ The Third Storm of Cythraul
Beherit - Engram
Burzum - s/t ~ Det Some Engang Var ~ Filosofem
Demoncy - Joined in Darkness
Enslaved - Hordanes Land
Graveland - The Celtic Winter ~ Thousand Swords
Immortal - Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism ~ Battles in the North ~ Blizzard Beasts
Sacramentum - Far Away From the Sun
Summoning - Minas Morgal ~ Let Mortal Heros Sing Your Fame ~ Oath Bound

Secondary Essentials:
Angelcorpse - Exterminate
Antaeus - Cut Your Flesh and Worship Satan
Avzhia - The Key of Throne
Dawn - Nær Sólen Gar Niþer For Evogher
Katharsis - 666 ~ VVorld VVithout End ~ Fourth Reich
Kvist - For Kunsten Maa Vi Evig Vike
Legion of Doom - For Those of the Blood ~ The Horned Made Flesh
Necromantia - Crossing the Fiery Path ~ Scarlet Evil Witching Black
Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times

No Poseurs Section:
Beherit - The Oath of Black Blood ~ At the Devil's Studio 1990
Havohej - Dethrone the Son of God
Ildjarn - Det Frysende Nordariket ~ Forest Poetry ~ Strength and Anger
Impaled Nazarene - Tol Cormpt Norz Norz Norz ~ Ugra Karma
Profanatica - Profanatitas De Domonatia ~ Disgusting Blasphemies Against God
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
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Doom

Doom is a genre of metal that emphasizes slow tempos, and heavy riffs and atmosphere. These are most often achieved with heavy distortion and downtuned guitars, creating a ‘thick’ sound.

Starting Points:
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus ~ Nightfall
Pentagram - Relentless ~ Day of Reckoning
Saint Vitus - s/t ~ Born Too Late
Trouble - Psalm 9
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty

The Best Of:
The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
Hour of 13 - s/t
Pagan Altar - Volume 1 ~ The Lords of Hypocrisy ~ Mythical & Magical
Reverend Bizarre - In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend
Scald - Will of the Gods is Great Power
Solitude Aeturnus - Into the Depths of Sorrow ~ Through the Darkest Hour
Solstice - Lamentations ~ New Dark Age
Warning - Watching from a Distance

Extra Listening:
Altar of Oblivion - Sinews of Anguish
Apostle of Solitude - Sincerest Misery
Blood Farmers - Blood Farmers ~ Permanent Brain Damage
Count Raven - Destruction of the Void
Electric Wizard - s/t
Fall Of The Idols - The Séance
Graveyard Dirt - Shadows of Old Ghosts
Isole - Forevermore
The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens & Dooms
Lord Vicar - Fear No Pain
The Obsessed - Lunar Womb
Orodruin - Epicurean Mass
Paul Chain - Alkahest
Procession - The Cult of Disease
Revelation - Release


Sludge

Generally accepted to have began with the Melvins and the second half of Black Flag's My War, Sludge is a combination of the trudging misanthropy of Doom Metal and the vicious assualts of Hardcore Punk. Typical features of Sludge include contrast between slow, Sabbathian riffs and upbeat sections reminiscent of early Hardcore Punk.

Essentials:
Melvins - Lysol ~ Bullhead
Eyehategod - In the Name of Suffering ~ Take as Needed for Pain
Iron Monkey - Our Problem
Crowbar - Crowbar ~ Odd Fellows Rest
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops

Further Listening:
13 - Hollow ~ Grief and Eyhategod splits
Buzzov*en - To a Frown
Corrupted - Dios Injusto
Dystopia - Human = Garbage
Grief - Dismal ~ Come to Grief
Graves at Sea - Documents of Grief
Mistress - II: The Chronoviser
Noothgrush - Erode the Person
His Hero Is Gone - Fifteen Counts of Arson
Thou - Tyrant

Stoner Metal

Combining the staggering pace of Black Sabbath with the drug fueled madness of Psychedelic music, Stoner Metal approximates the soundtrack of a trip. Heavy in its slow, reverberated, low-tuned riffing, and often retro in its production, this music is the perfect companion to late night smoke sessions. Just say YES, kids.

Essentials:
Kyuss - Blues for the Red Sun ~ Welcome to Sky Valley
Sleep - Holy Mountain ~ Dopesmoker
Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics... ~ Dopethrone
Cathedral - The Carnival Bizarre
Goatsnake - Flower of Disease

Further listening:
Bongzilla - Amerijuanican
Boris - Heavy Rocks ~ Amplifier Worship
Church of Misery - Houses of the Unholy
Down - Nola ~ III: Over The Under
High on Fire - Surrounded by Thieves ~ The Art of Self Defense
Orange Goblin - Frequencies from Planet Ten ~ The Big Black
Om - Conference of the Birds
Shrinebuilder - Shrinebuilder
Spirit Caravan - Jug Fulla Sun ~ Dreamwheel
YOB - The Great Cessation


Funeral Doom

Started by Thergothon, who opted for a new level of droning, mystical, and emotional Death/Doom, the majority of the former Death Metal elements were abandoned for an ambient sound that capitalized on the melancholic or introspective melodic work from guitars and keyboards, with slow, minimalist, rumbling riffs. Some newer bands have begun reintegrating elements from Death and Black metal, making something far more sinister and morbid than the founders.

Best Of:
Evoken - Antithesis of Light ~ Embrace The Emptiness
Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet ~ Lead and Aether ~ Alloy
Thergothon - Streams From the Heavens
Esoteric - Subconscious Dissolution into the Continuum
Wormphlegm - Tomb Of The Ancient King

Further Listening:
Ahab - The Call Of The Wretched Sea ~ The Divinity Of Oceans
Doom:VS - Empire Of The Fallen
Ea - Au Ellai, Ea Taesse
Imindain - Monlithium
Mournful Congregation - The Monad of Creation
Nivathe - Enveloped In A Diseased Abyss
Nortt - Gudsforladt
Pantheist - O Solitude ~ Amartia
Shape Of Despair-Illusion's Play
Stabat Mater - Stabat Mater
Tyranny - Bleak Vistae
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
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(Crossover) Thrash

A form of skater punk that fuses Metal and Hardcore into a unique form, Thrash takes the speed and political / social commentary (or satire) of Hardcore Punk, and mixes in riffing that is unquestionably Metal in construction and form.

Starting Points:
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing
DRI-Thrash Zone
Nuclear Assault - Game Over
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
The Accüsed - The Return of... Martha Splatterhead

Best Of:
Fearless Iranians From Hell - Die For Allah ~ Holy War ~ Foolish Americans
DRI - Dirty Rotten LP ~ Dealing With It ~ Crossover
Cryptic Slaughter - Convicted ~ Money Talks
Carnivore - s/t ~ Retaliation

Further Listening:
Chronical Diarrhea - The Last Judgment
Corrosion of Conformity - Eye for an Eye
Cro-Mags - Age of Quarrel
Crumbsuckers - Life of Dreams
dead horse - Horsecore
Leeway - Born to Expire
Prong - Primitive Origins
Suicidal Tendencies - s/t



Grindcore

Equally inspired by the raw simplicity of Hardcore Punk as the satanic battery of early extreme metal, Grindcore specialises in short bursts of unfiltered rage and pure aggression. The genre encompasses a variety of approaches to it's "short songs with blastbeats" templates, from a handful of powerchords to ultra-technical death metal inspired riffing, with lyrical topics stretching from left-wing soapboxing to descriptions of medical procedures.

Starting Points:
Brutal Truth - Need To Control
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Impetigo - Horror of the Zombies
Insect Warfare - World Extermnation
Napalm Death -From Enslavement to Obliteration
Xysma-Above the Mind of Morbidity

Best of:
Napalm Death-Scum
Assück - Discography
Carcass-Reek of Putrefaction
Bolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No Law
Repulsion - Horrified
Terrorizer - World Downfall

Further Listening:
Agathocles-Discography
Blood - Impulse to Destroy ~ O Agios Pethane
Dahmer- Dahmerized
Despise You- West Side Horizons
Excruciating Terror- Expression of Pain
Extreme Noise Terror- A Holocaust in Your Head
G-Anx- Flashbacks
General Surgery-Necrology
Hatred Surge - Deconstruct
Magrudergrind - Rehashed
Multiplex – World
Nuclear Death - Bride of Insect ~ Carrion for Worm
Phobia- Means of Existence
Plutocracy- Sniping Pigz
Rotten Sound – Cycles
Unholy Grave- Revoltage



Industrial Metal

Born from the mind of ex-Napalm Death guitarist Justin Broadrick, Industrial Metal formed in the early workings of his project Godflesh. Highly emphatic of repetitious sections of hammer blow to the head drumming, crushing guitar riffs, and pitch shifted vocals, it is the musical incarnation of the mechanistic hell of modern society.

Starting Points:
Ministry - Psalm 69
Fear Factory - Soul Of A New Machine

Best of Industrial Metal:
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Swans ~ Children of God

Notable Works:
Aborym-With No Human Intervention
Axis Of Perdition - The Ichneumon Method ~ Deleted Scenes From The Transition Hospital
Blut Aus Nord - The Works Which Transform God
Doubting Thomas - The Infidel
Godflesh ~ Pure
Ministry ~ Filth Pig
Pitchshifter - Industrial
Swans - Filth ~ Cop ~ Greed ~ Holy Money
The Amenta-Occasus
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
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Folk Metal

Dating back to the early 90's, the genre only really started to grow in the late 90's/early 00's. Folk metal is a fusing of elements of Folk music and Metal, often in terms of instrumentation, melody, and lyrics. The term has since come to include other genres, which are more commonly referred to as Viking, Pagan or Battle Metal.

Starting Points:
Ensiferum - Iron
Finntroll - Jaktens Tid
Korpiklaani - Voice of Wilderness
Moonsorrow - Voimasta Ja Kunniasta
Turisas - Battle Metal

Best of Folk:
Bathory - Hammerheart
Heidevolk - De Strijdlust is Geboren
Falkenbach - ...Magni Blandinn Ok Megintiri...
Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice Of Steel
Odroerir - Götterlieder
Primordial - The Gathering Wilderness
Skiltron - The clans have united
Skyforger - Kauja Pie Saules
Temnozor - Haunted Dreamscapes ~ Folkstorm of the Azure Nights
Tuatha De Dannan - Tingaralatingadun

Further Listening for Folk:
Arkona - Lepta
Asmegin - Hin Vordende Sod & So
Cruachan - The Morrigans Call
Einherjer - Blot
Finsterforst - Zum Tode Hin
Folkearth - By The Sword of my Father
Forefather - Steadfast
Gjallarhorn - Nordheim
Glittertind - Evige Asatro
Irminsul - Irminsul
Kroda - Cry To Me, River...
Skyclad - Folkemon
Menhir - Hildebrandslied
Mithotyn - King Of The Distant Forest
Moonsorrow - V: Havitetty
Myrkgrav - Trollskau, Skrømt Og Kølabrenning
Nebelhorn - Fjordland Sagas
Theudho - The Völsunga Saga
Týr - Eric the Red



Power Metal

Power Metal refers to two different but related styles: the first pioneered and largely practiced in North America with a harder sound similar to speed metal, and a later more widespread and popular style based in Europe, Brazil and Japan with a lighter, more melodic sound and frequent use of keyboards. Fast tempo, melodic harmonies, and fantasy themed lyrics, usually based on mythologies, war, and death, characterize this genre.

Starting Points:
Gamma Ray – Land of the Free
Firewind – Forged by Fire ~ Burning Earth
Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings
Sonata Arctica – Ecliptica, Winterheart’s Guild
Rebellion - Miklagard - The History of the Vikings - Volume II
Cauldron Born - Born of the Cauldron
Stratovarius – Twilight Time ~ Dreamspace ~ Episode
Heathendom - Nescience

Best Of:
Riot - Thundersteel
Lords of the Crimson Alliance - Lords of the Crimson Alliance
Virgin Steele - The Marriage Of Heaven and Hell Part I
Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction
Lizzy Borden - Love You To Pieces
Blind Guardian - Follow The Blind/Somewhere Far Beyond/Nightfall In Middle Earth/ Tales From the Twilight World
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt. 1
Manowar – Gods of War
Fates Warning - The Spectre Within
Crimson Glory - Crimson Glory

Further Listening:
Liege Lord - Master Control
Powermad - Absolute Power
Dark Age - Dark Age
Airwolf - Victory Bells
Savage Grace - Master of Disguise
Excelsis - Kurt of Koppigen
Omen - Battle Cry
Axenstar – Far From Heaven, Perpetual Twilight
Rhapsody of Fire – Dawn of Victory ~ Symphony of Enchanted Lands
Symphony X – Twilight in Olympus ~ The Odyssey
Demons and Wizards – S/T
Demoniac – Touch the Wind
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#8
Progressive Metal

Progressive metal bands have taken progressive rock stylings, such as longer and more complex song structures, odd time signatures, dissonant/otherwise odd harmony, and/or unusual instrumentation, and attach it to heavy metal. In some cases, this is merely taking metal and make it more complex; in others, the there is a much clearer sonic influence from the prog rock genre. Most prog metal bands take a primary influence from Rush and neo-prog bands like IQ, although there are some with more basis in the 70's prog sound exemplified by King Crimson and Gentle Giant.

Starting Points:
Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory~Images And Words
Seventh Wonder - The Great Escape
Anubis Gate - Andromeda Unchained
Shadow Gallery - Room V
Vanden Plas - Christ.O~Beyond Daylight

Best Of:
Ayreon - The Human Equation
Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element Pt.1
Hammers of Misfortune - The August Engine
Frederik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within
Voivod - Dimension Hatross
Arcturus - La Masquerade Infernale
Blotted Science - The Machinations of Dementia
Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian
Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness

Further Listening:
Pain of Salvation - Entropia~BE
Arcturus – The Sham Mirrors
Voivod - Nothingface~The Outer Limits
Gordian Knot - Gordian Knot~eMergent
Adramelch - Irae Melanox
Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
Hammers of Misfortune - The Locust Years~The Bastard
Noekk - The Water Sprite~The Minstrel's Curse
Dark Quarterer - Symbols~The Etruscan Prophecy
Riverside - Out of Myself~Second Life Syndrome


Extreme Prog

Extreme progressive metal borrows considerable elements from death metal and/or black metal, but can not be accurately described as "progressive death metal" or "progressive black metal." Extreme prog bands tend to use a mix of heavier sections and and soft sections, matched by a mix of harsh and clean vocals, along with the typical progressive metal elements.

Starting Points:
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
Dan Swano - Moontower
In Vain - The Latter Rain
Enslaved - Ruun

Best Of:
Opeth - Still Life ~ My Arms, Your Hearse
Disillusion - Back to Times of Splendor
In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
Ne Obliviscaris - The Aurora Veil
Cynic - Focus
Edge of Sanity - Crimson

Further Listening:
Opeth - Deliverance~Morningrise
In Mourning - Monolith
Ikuinen Kaamos - The Forlorn~Fall of Icons
Alchemist - Organasm
Ihsahn - After~angL
Ethereal Blue - Essays In Rhyme on Passion and Ethics
Dark Suns - Grave Human Genuine
Orphaned Land - Mabool: The Story of the Three Sons of Seven
Edge of Sanity - Crimson 2
Cormorant - Metazoa
Windham Hell - South Facing Epitaph
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
#9
Post-Metal/Experimental

Post-Metal is a concoction of many sounds and inspirations, originating from the early 90's with bands such as Neurosis and Godflesh combining crusty sludge, post-hardcore, industrial, early post-rock and noise soundscapes. The genre has grown, creating mellow counterparts and experimental entities with rising crescendos and minimalistic structures. A bit into the future (2005-now), French post-black metal bands like Alcest and Lantlos spawned with influences from black metal, post-rock and shoegaze, venturing extreme music into new land.

Starting Points:
Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
ISIS - Wavering Radiant
Neurosis - The Eye of Every Storm
Red Sparowes - At The Soundless Dawn
Russian Circles - Station
Intronaut - Valley of Smoke ~ Prehistoricisms
Pelican - Australasia

Best of Post-metal/Experimental:
Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood ~ Enemy of the Sun
ISIS - Panopticon ~ Oceanic
Cult of Luna - Somewhere Along the Highway ~ Salvation
Callisto - True Nature Unfolds
Pelican - The Fire in Our Throats Will beckon the Thaw
Rosetta - The Galilean Satellites
Jesu - Conqueror ~ Silver
Intronaut - Void
Maudlin of the Well - Bath

Additional Listening:
Old Man Gloom - Meditations in B
Mouth of the Architect - The Ties That Blind ~ The Violence Beneath
Irepress - Sol Eye Sea I
Kekal - 1000 Thoughts of Violence
Minsk - The Ritual Fires of Abandonment
A Storm of Light - And We Wept The Black Ocean Within
Year of No Light - Nord
Rosetta - 'Wake/Lift'
Nahemah - The Second Philosophy
Giant- Song
Fall of Efrafa - Inlé

Drone:
Earth - Earth 2: Special Low-Frequency Version ~ Hex (Or Printing in the Infernal Method)
Boris - Amplifier Worship ~ Absolutego
Sunn O))) - White2 ~ Black One
The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls with Sand
Pyramids - Pyramids

Post-Black Metal:
Altar Of Plagues - Mammal
Alcest - Souvenirs D'un Autre Monde ~ Ecailles de Lune
Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain ~ The Mantle
Lantlôs - .Neon ~ Lantlôs
Cold Body Radiation - The Great White Emptiness
Solstafir - Kold



...and so endeth our recommendations. We hope you've enjoyed reading, and found some music worth listening to! Don't forget to post questions if you want more tailor-made recommendations.

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#10
Horn's Naturkraft is my favorite black metal album. Folk Metal needs more Mithotyn but also it needs the Noktutnal Mortum, Temnozor, and Kroda albums transliterated into Latin since UG doesn't support Cyrillic anymore. Death Metal needs more Bolt Thrower since just having In Battle There is No Law doesn't do such a find band justice.
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#11
And if I can throw in my two cents on Temnozor, Horizons and Folkstorm of the Azure Nights are both better than that album anyway, but that's just my opinion.
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#12
Quote by theogonia777
Horn's Naturkraft is my favorite black metal album. Folk Metal needs more Mithotyn but also it needs the Noktutnal Mortum, Temnozor, and Kroda albums transliterated into Latin since UG doesn't support Cyrillic anymore. Death Metal needs more Bolt Thrower since just having In Battle There is No Law doesn't do such a find band justice.


Added BT and fixed the translation errors. What Mithotyn albums would you recommend be added?
#13
I would say their second full length, King of the Distant Forest, is best but you can't go wrong with any of their three full lengths.
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#14
It submitted the same post twice and won't let me delete this one. I guess I should take the opportunity to say to anyone that reads the list that Demilich has their entire discography save for one demo available for free download here:

http://www.anentity.com/demilich/download.php
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#15
There we go. Fixed some of it, so see what you think. I'm thinking about heavily editing the deathcore section, though. Half of it is complete shit.

Actually, I guess I could just put replace all the deathcore entries with Pierced From Within.
Last edited by Morphogenesis26 at Jul 3, 2016,
#16
Can you get rid of the Discharge mention in the Brief History of Metal? It's shoehorned in and none of the bands have mentioned Discharge was a direct influence on their work, ironically not even Quorthon when interviewed by a member of ANUS. I've looked through a few interviews from each of the bands ranging from 80s-now. The obvious and major connection between those bands are Motorhead, so maybe Motorhead could replace Discharge.

EDIT: Yes, please do your corrections on the deathcore section.
Last edited by severed-metal at Jul 3, 2016,
#17
Wow, that Discharge mention was super out of place. Never noticed it before, but I got rid of it and might think of something better later. Also adjusted the deathcore section and added some more quality stuff,outside of the starting points part. Quality deathcore, mmm, that's an oxymoron right there I tell you what.
#18
Trying to get people to listen to deathcore seems counterproductive.
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#19
I've always wanted Helloween's s/t and Walls of Jericho added to the best of power metal section
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#20
I have quite a lot of problems with the Folk and Progressive sections. I will outline said problems and suggested amendments today.

Everything else could use minor touch ups or nothing at all.
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#21
I quite strongly object to Mercyful Fate being called First Wave Black Metal, I understand their influence in terms of thematics and imagery, but musically they are completely out of place. They should definitely remain in the recommendation thread, just I don't think they belong in that section.

For second wave black metal, while Immortal should be mentioned as a starting point, At the Heart of Winter is not really a typical black metal album, it should be switched out with either of the first two albums but most likely Pure Holocaust. I'd scrap mention of Blizzard Beasts altogether but that's probably just my personal opinion. I wouldn't include Angelcorpse under 'Second Wave Black Metal' either, in the absence of a 'Blackened Death' section I think they are more suited to the Death Metal section.

Necroschizma deserve a mention in either Funeral Doom or Death/Doom sections (probably the latter) and I'd hesitate to say Thergothon 'started' an entire genre single-handedly.

Some Japanese bands deserve a place in the crossover section, specifically GISM (Detestation) and Ghoul (1984-1989 Discography).

Nausea (Crime Against Humanity) and Unseen Terror (Human Error) deserve mentions in the grindcore section, I'd personally add in Outo and S.O.B. but they are somewhat less essential.

Agent Steel and Helstar are conspicuously absent from the power metal section.

Anyway aside from that, it's very good and I'm just nitpicking really.
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#22
Oh you missed Metal Church as well
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#23
Blackened Death should get a mention. Blasphemy became the band that introduced the concept, and now it has its own sub group with a thriving community. It also has a focus on relevancy, as that doesn't really exist in rec thread.

I like most if the bands on the list, and their contributions are important. But for someone coming into the genre wanting to explore more, they are likely to think metal died years ago, probably earlier.

So maybe including chronology to the sections couldn't hurt and adding new bands and albums, or a new section or something.

I think Hoodoo Man was talking about formatting or downsizing?

Any thoughts are welcome and this may as well be the time for a review.
#24
At least putting dates on albums might be nice. In some way you have to incorporate dates. Maybe have like a section in each subgenre for up and coming bands or whatever you want to call it. Cutting edge bands at the forefront of the modern scene that are pushing the genres and carrying the torch, etc.
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#26
A few thoughts that I've had for a while:

There are bands in starting points that should be in best of (for example Priest, Maiden and Sabbath in heavy metal, Metallica - Kill 'em All and Slayer in Thrash Metal), and I would argue in favour of scrapping starting points completely and changing over to an Essentials/Best of and Further Listening format.

Merging genres such as Heavy Metal/NWOBHM, Death/Melodic Death/Death Doom/Death Thrash, Thrash/Death Thrash.

Eliminating stoner metal and incorporating anything that is actually metal into doom. Possibly the same for sludge, but I confess to having next to zero knowledge of that genre.

Eliminating Prog/Experimental/whatever and deathcore, and incorporating anything relevant into actual genres. There are bands in other genres that are at least as progressive as what is listed under that title.

Mercyful Fate should be in best of heavy metal.

The no poseurs section of black metal should be merged into the rest.

Some genres have only one album per band in the best of when in some cases more than one album per band could be in there.

There is also the possibility of changing the first wave of black metal section to a more general proto black/death section and including bands like Slayer that have more in common with those bands than others in thrash metal.

Edit: Also, I kind of like the idea of including a prog rock list, because the one in the prog rock thread is really good.
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#27
I feel that Lykathea Aflame is worthy of being present, either under death metal or extreme prog. Dunno if I'd consider Pierced From Within deathcore but whatever
#28
I'm going to whip up a rough draft of my idea to revamp the power metal section today.

Quote by severed-metal

I like most if the bands on the list, and their contributions are important. But for someone coming into the genre wanting to explore more, they are likely to think metal died years ago, probably earlier.

So maybe including chronology to the sections couldn't hurt and adding new bands and albums, or a new section or something.

I like the idea of putting new bands or albums, but I can see it being tricky. This has always been a guide of the foundations of each genre (to me anyway). What modern album suitably stands next to Crystal Logic, etc, etc. We just have to be careful I guess.

Quote by MHDrunk
Oh you missed Metal Church as well

They're in the heavy metal section... Under 'further listening.' what blasphemy
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#29
Thankfully we have the bands at least so some ordering, format changing, and inclusion/exclusion is alright. I'll post my full thoughts on the bands in a bit. I think there deserve to be a few additions and exclusions. Mind you, I do like the ordered lists over the big block text of the previous threads lol.

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So you're down for reviewing 5 years plus worth of bands with me, Kyto?

I have quite a few bands in mind already. For one, the biggest one...Atlantean Kodex aren't on this list. But it's not NFA's fault by any means, at the very least he tried to do something with a rec thread and laid a foundation. They released an album after this was rec thread was created. Which is one of the reasons I think it needs a revision.

Suhnopfer being one massive example too. We have Urfaust who are literally not mentioned anywhere, despite his affiliations with black metal.
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Cutting edge bands at the forefront of the modern scene that are pushing the genres and carrying the torch, etc.


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#30
Quote by severed-metal

So you're down for reviewing 5 years plus worth of bands with me, Kyto?

I have quite a few bands in mind already. For one, the biggest one...Atlantean Kodex aren't on this list. But it's not NFA's fault by any means, at the very least he tried to do something with a rec thread and laid a foundation. They released an album after this was rec thread was created. Which is one of the reasons I think it needs a revision..


Lol yea. I have nothing else to do

Also Atlantean Kodex are in the heavy metal section under 'further listening.' I'm not sure if that's the right place for it. Wherever we end up putting them I totally think that The White Goddess needs to be added.
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#31
My thoughts on your thoughts:

Quote by Hoodoo Man
A few thoughts that I've had for a while:

There are bands in starting points that should be in best of (for example Priest, Maiden and Sabbath in heavy metal, Metallica - Kill 'em All and Slayer in Thrash Metal), and I would argue in favour of scrapping starting points completely and changing over to an Essentials/Best of and Further Listening format.


I think the good thing about starting points is that you have the potential to give bands that would ease people into a subgenre, particularly the more abrasive ones.

Let's say you take a youngster that has only listened to like Metallica, Iron Maiden, maybe a little Slayer, etc. They might want to listen to death metal but they are unsure about all the blast beats and the very extreme guttural vocals.

So for "Starting Points" you want bands to convince them to listen to more without scaring them away. To use two examples from "The Best" list, Alters of Madness would be a good introduction to death metal for a 15 year old that likes Slayer since it's maybe a step or so more extreme than Slayer. Nespithe in comparison is a lot more abrasive with much more angular riffing, much more extreme vocals, etc which might turn that person off from death metal on their first listen.

Kind of just "easing" someone into a subgenre. That being said, it becomes unnecessary with certain less extreme subgenres like power metal where it is much easier to jump right in.

Merging genres such as Heavy Metal/NWOBHM, Death/Melodic Death/Death Doom/Death Thrash, Thrash/Death Thrash.


Split on this one. I think some can be combined but not all of them. I would throw death/doom in with funeral doom rather than death metal. But at the same time, you get the question of where to put the bands.

Certain death thrash bands more easily fit with death and some with thrash, but at the same time you're taking similar bands in the middle of the spectrum at the cutoff pointing and separating them.

I think when it comes to metal, having too many categories is better than two few since it is such a diverse genre. However another option is to make the smaller styles and fusion genres fall as sections under a subgenre. Like under death metal you have "Starting Points" if you decide to keep that, "The Best" after that, a couple of "Further Listening" sections, and then then Melodic, Blackened, Death Thrash, Tech Death, etc with just one list for each style rather than "The Best" and "Further Listening" for each style.

Actually, you could almost eliminate the different levels like "The Best" and "Further Listening" altogether if you are more specific with styles.

Eliminating stoner metal and incorporating anything that is actually metal into doom. Possibly the same for sludge, but I confess to having next to zero knowledge of that genre.


Stoner and Sludge metal I think are different enough from bands like Candlemass, but I would say it's similar to what I said above.

Eliminating Prog/Experimental/whatever and deathcore, and incorporating anything relevant into actual genres. There are bands in other genres that are at least as progressive as what is listed under that title.


You can do this with some but not all, especially since some bands that are commonly labeled as prog can easily fit into some other subgenre while some can't. Post metal should remain its own category, post black metal should be with black metal and drone with doom, and deathcore can honestly be tossed.

Mercyful Fate should be in best of heavy metal.

The no poseurs section of black metal should be merged into the rest.


Yeah.

Some genres have only one album per band in the best of when in some cases more than one album per band could be in there.


At the same time, if you don't want too many, especially with smaller subgenres.

There is also the possibility of changing the first wave of black metal section to a more general proto black/death section and including bands like Slayer that have more in common with those bands than others in thrash metal.


Definitely this. You could also through in some other thrash bands in as well.

Edit: Also, I kind of like the idea of including a prog rock list, because the one in the prog rock thread is really good.


Having a prog rock list would be good, and it couldn't hurt to include certain genres that, while not metal, are related to certain subgenres, influenced them, are associated with them. Similarly, there are many non-metal albums by metal bands (like Ulver for example) that are worth listening to.
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#32
Quote by theogonia777
I think the good thing about starting points is that you have the potential to give bands that would ease people into a subgenre, particularly the more abrasive ones.

I get why it's useful in that regard, but my criticism is more to do with bands that don't really represent the full force of a genre being used as a starting point, which could potentially put people off because they won't see the things right away that make us really love it. For example, MHDrunk's point about At the Heart of Winter, which is more of a heavy metal/thrash metal album with growls and doesn't give the same sense of the genre as Pure Holocaust.

Also, just in black metal, A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Under a Funeral Moon, Antichrist and His Majesty at the Swamp should be in best of, so do we have them in both categories?

All that being said, I am more than willing to concede that one if everyone prefers it the way it is.

Split on this one. I think some can be combined but not all of them. I would throw death/doom in with funeral doom rather than death metal. But at the same time, you get the question of where to put the bands.

Certain death thrash bands more easily fit with death and some with thrash, but at the same time you're taking similar bands in the middle of the spectrum at the cutoff pointing and separating them.

Death thrash I was a bit on the fence with. On the one hand, Morbid Visions is a straight up death metal album and has less thrash in it than Final Holocaust, which is in death metal. Similarly Possessed and Merciless fit comfortably into death metal. Most of what is left feels like thrash metal with growls to me.

On the other hand, there are bands like Kreator (at that point anyway) that have more death metal elements than just the vocals, but perhaps don't fit as comfortably into death metal. To counter this, though, there will be a few exceptions however we break it down.

As for death doom and melodic death, death doom is just slow death metal and melodic death is just death metal with less modal melodies. Incantation and Autopsy are in both death and death doom anyway, while Necrophobic and Amorphis could just as easily be in melodic death. It's all too vague and inconsistently applied.

Stoner and Sludge metal I think are different enough from bands like Candlemass, but I would say it's similar to what I said above.

Do we really need five doom categories though? Atheist sound at least as different to Autopsy as Electric Wizard do to Candlemass, and yet the former two are both listed in the same genre.

You can do this with some but not all, especially since some bands that are commonly labeled as prog can easily fit into some other subgenre while some can't. Post metal should remain its own category, post black metal should be with black metal and drone with doom, and deathcore can honestly be tossed.

I'm not going to lie, I think most of the stuff in the above categories is garbage, but it's not just my list.

At the same time, if you don't want too many, especially with smaller subgenres.

Agreed. The example I had in mind was that Blessed are the Sick (and indeed Abominations of Desolation) are at least as good as anything else in the best of death metal, and yet we only have Altars.

Having a prog rock list would be good, and it couldn't hurt to include certain genres that, while not metal, are related to certain subgenres, influenced them, are associated with them. Similarly, there are many non-metal albums by metal bands (like Ulver for example) that are worth listening to.

I wasn't sure whether to suggest genres besides prog, but there are obvious major influences from hardcore and electronic music that could be mentioned if we go down that route. That would also take Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing out of crossover, since it isn't a crossover album...
#33
Well, there's really no right or wrong answers to a lot of these things. It's really just a matter of trying new things and seeing if everybody likes the way it turns out.
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#34
The thread as it is is pretty damn good, especially the black and death metal sections. My suggestions would have made it easier for me to use in the past, but perhaps not for everyone.
#35
Power Metal
Power Metal refers to two different but related styles: the first pioneered and largely practiced in North America with a harder sound similar to speed metal, and a later more widespread and popular style based in Europe, Brazil and Japan with a lighter, more melodic sound and frequent use of keyboards. Fast tempo, melodic harmonies, and fantasy themed lyrics, usually based on mythologies, war, and death, characterize this genre.


USPM

Starting Points:
Crimson Glory - Crimson Glory ~ Transcendence
Iced Earth - Night of the Stormrider ~ Burnt Offerings
Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction
Manowar - Battle Hymns ~ Into Glory Ride ~ Sign of the Hammer
...

Best of:
Agent Steel - Skeptics Apocalypse ~ Unstoppable Force
Cauldron Born - Born of the Cauldron
Fates Warning - The Spectre Within ~ Awaken the Guardian
Helstar - Nosferatu
Lizzy Borden - Love You to Pieces
Lords of the Crimson Alliance - Lords of the Crimson Alliance
Metal Church - Metal Church ~ The Dark
Omen - Battle Cry ~ Warning of Danger
Queensryche - Queensryche ~ The Warning
Riot - Thundersteel
Savage Grace - Masters of Diguise ~ After the Fall From Grace
Tyrant - Legions of the Dead ~ Too Late to Pray

Further Listening:
Armored Saint - Raising Fear ~ Symbol of Salvation
Dark Age - Dark Age
Heir Apparent - Graceful Inheritence
Helstar - A Distant Thunder ~ Remnants of War
Liege Lord - Master Control
Malice - In the Beginning...
Powermad - Absolute Power
Virgin Steel - The Marriage of Heaven and Hell Pt.1
...



EUPM


Starting Points:
Firewind - Forged by Fire ~ Burning Earth ~ Between Heaven and Hell
Gamma Ray - Land of the Free
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt.1 ~ Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt.2
Iron Saviour - Iron Saviour ~ Unification

Best of:
Angra - Angels Cry
Blind Guardian - Follow The Blind ~ Somewhere Far Beyond ~ Tales from the Twilight World ~ Nightfall In Middle Earth
Galneryus - The Flag of Punishment
Helloween - Helloween ~ Walls of Jericho
Pretty Maids - Red, Hot and Heavy ~ Future World
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger ~ Port Royal
Scanner - Hypertrace
Stratovarius - Fright Night ~ Twilight Time

Further Listening:
Airwolf - Victory Bells
Angel Dust - Into the Dark Past ~ To Dust You Will Decay ~ Bleed
Falconer - Among Beggars and Thieves
Grave Digger - Heavy Metal Breakdown ~ Excalibur
Heavenly - Dust to Dust
Heavens Gate - Open the Gate and Watch! ~ Livin' in Hysteria
Lost Horizon - Awakening the World ~ A Flame to the Ground Beneath
Nocturnal Rites - In a Time of Blood and Fire
Primal Fear - Primal Fear



This is kinda what I would like to do with the power metal section. Separating the US and European variants. For the USPM list I cross-referenced what was already in the rec thread with \Powerslave/'s thread to try to make a comprehensive list out of both. There may be some conflicts there with the heavy metal section. Feel free to call me out on whatever. For the EUPM list I kept a few things from the rec thread but a lot of it is different because the original section is pretty bad imo. This is just a rough draft and just a suggestion btw. I always felt like the power metal section was too diffuse.
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#36
People often ask me if I like Falconer.
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#37
Okay, so I like Kyto's format pretty well. I'm gravitating towards getting rid of the "starting points" subsection for most of the subgenres that aren't death and black metal because, to be honest, power, doom, heavy, folk, and so on aren't anywhere near as divisive for people as black and death. One option, however, would be instead of a "starting points" section under every subgenre and sub subgenre just have it under each primary one. So, it'd be like, "death metal starting points" but no "blackened death metal starting points". With that said, even having it for those two genres irks me because you risk going too far away from what the genre represents and somewhat may think it sounds like (x) but really it sounds like (y).

I'd like to know what everyone thinks of just merging NWOBHM and heavy metal as simply heavy metal? There's slight differences in some bands between the two, but I feel like they might as well be just one.

I also want to know what people think of having a "proto-extreme metal" category? That's where a lot of the proto-black metal stuff would go, since a lot of those bands were influential on more than just black metal.

I do like the "new bands in x genre" category for all of them as well, but it will probably be the last thing to be added since it will take more time and consensus than the already established classics.

I also noticed that thrash and speed metal are simply one entity currently. I feel like a lot of bands with the title "speed metal" tend to either go towards heavy metal or thrash and am wondering if we could just segregate the proper bands to either of those subgenres and not bother with the term at all. I'm not super knowledgeable on them though and have never really known the difference between speed and thrash very well, so if someone could clear it up for me that'd be great.

If we're adding non-metal styles of music to it I think we should keep them short and only focus on the most influential and pioneering bands of the genres. Since metal has incorporated a lot from progressive rock and hardcore those would be the first two to add.

Once I get some more feedback on my questions in this post I'll start making actual changes to the OP. I'm outlining whats been suggested so far in a project right now to see how it looks.

Oh, and I'm definitely just getting rid of the deathcore section. Listening to the bands in that category makes it apparent that the style is far removed to the majority of actual metal and hardcore and is useless to most people using a list like this.
#38
I don't personally like the idea of proto-extreme metal because thrash is extreme metal. I think it's better to just have proto/first wave black under the main black metal section and same for death

Speed metal is basically traditional metal played faster, it doesn't have as much hardcore influence as thrash does. You could most likely divvy up the speed bands between trad and power or just change the power section to power/speed
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Last edited by MHDrunk at Jul 4, 2016,
#39
I'm ok with removing the starting point sections. It was weird for me to try to pick and choose stuff for that category.

When someone says 'speed metal' I usually think Agent Steel or Savage Grace. But like MHD said, bands like that get swallowed up by USPM or trad anyway. All the bands in thrash/speed just seem like thrash to me. So for the thrash/speed section, just remove the word 'speed'
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#40
A few things, mostly in agreeance with what's already been said. Only read Morph's and some of Hoodoo Man's post.

-Brief History of Metal: Its purpose is to provide the reader, like it says, with a brief history of metal. I like the idea of a history of metal, but having a brief history of metal neglects a lot of the scenes as it's supposed to. I don't think it's useful for people coming into the genre because there's too much information lost. I'm nitpicking mostly, it doesn't add or take away anything for me.

-Doom metal: Hoodoo Man had a great criticism, do we need five sections on doom? Likely not. although the variations present within doom metal are worth making a distinction, they could be put under a single header with spoiler tags for each of them so we avoid cluttering and confusion. It makes it seem like all those doom variations are their own distinct genres despite being intrinsically linked to doom metal.

-USPM/EUPM...I have no words outside of looks killer, "Savage Cabbage" as Stranglehold would mutter through his potato.

-Sludge isn't really a relevant genre, but that's pure opinion. I'm piggybacking off of what Aesop Dekker has said, which is along the lines of "every band in sludge has a place elsewhere in metal" so I don't know if the distinction is worth noting, but maybe some sludge experts can say otherwise. Crowbar are likely the founders of sludge from all I know, but they're just doom metal with some hardcore influence.

-Timestamps on artists/albums gives some indications of time periods and relevant information. I'd like to think that people would go "oh, so that's the general sound of this era" and take something away from that.

-also agree with removing starting points.

-NWOBHM/Heavy metal...I think they can be combined. I think if anyone could post something it would be AnnihiSSlater because he knew a lot about the history and classification of the NWOBHM scene. I am for combining them as I don't feel they're musically that distinct when you compare the scenes, but there is definitely some argument to be had when you compare a band like Traitor's Gate to Tyrant. Maybe NWOBHM could be combined under heavy metal in its own little subset.

-New bands thing will probably be a slow-burn. I do have lists for the past few years, but it'll take a little while. I'll try to include mostly full-lengths though unless there's an outstanding demo, and then I'll post some stuff for people to comment on and add to, or get rid of some.


Perhaps formatting with a main header, and then having separate titles/descriptions spoilered. Like variations on genres. Kyto's format exactly, in essence. Although spoiler tags don't work within spoiler tags or something? It's not working for me.