#1
Please define the difference between these two cabinets.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CRPRO412?adpos=1o1&creative=55281354721&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CNLZiITW484CFQ6maQodclwAYw

and

https://orangeamps.com/products/guitar-speaker-enclosures/closed-back/ppc412/

I suspect the reason for the difference in price may be that the first cabinet does not have the 4 X celestion vintage 30 speakers.However, there is a good chance that I am wrong.

Thank you for the advice; my apologies if my noobitude is ruining this forum.
#2
I cant find any other difference in the specs, so its probably it.
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#4
^ yeah and the ppc4x12 may be made in the UK (not sure), and if so that would also account for some of the price difference.
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To my knowledge, the speakers are the same. The difference is in the cabinet itself. The PPC is bigger and stronger and therefore the sturdiest for live work and consequently more expensive..
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To my knowledge, the speakers are the same. The difference is in the cabinet itself. The PPC is bigger and stronger and therefore the sturdiest for live work and consequently more expensive..


Are those VOTW speakers just copies of the Celestion V30s?
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To my knowledge, the speakers are the same. The difference is in the cabinet itself. The PPC is bigger and stronger and therefore the sturdiest for live work and consequently more expensive..


I dunno, I mean it says on the orange site that the crush pro cab has orange speakers, not V30s...
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Are those VOTW speakers just copies of the Celestion V30s?

They're probably going to try to be copies. But I'd get the cab with V30's because you know what you're getting with them and they sound great.
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Aren't VOTW just V30's? I thought that they were but I can't remember where I heard that so
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The PPC cab is probably better wood from how Orange describe it, the speakers are different, the PPC is wider and taller (same depth), and it weighs more.

https://orangeamps.com/products/guitar-speaker-enclosures/crpro412-speaker-cabinet/


Pffft. "Better Wood." Probably not, and probably mostly marketing fluff. Every Orange cabinet I've ever looked inside looked pretty much like every other 4x12 made of plywood.

BTW, the "skids" on the bottom of Orange cabinets claim to enhance mechanical coupling, offering you more bass. That's good news (for the marketing boys) and bad news (for musicians concerned about how they sound). Generally speaking, mechanical coupling isn't a good thing; a boomy hollow stage can make you sound horrible, and it can be very unpredictable regarding what frequencies will be boomy. You'll find a lot of musicians who will put these cabinets on wheeled platforms, sometimes with a layer of sound-deadening foam under the cabinet, specifically to *eliminate* mechanical coupling.

Orange cabinets were designed with a frame around the grill cloth to make them look thicker. They're not. Nor are they actually tougher or more robust than any other 4x12 plywood cabinet. There's no advantage whatsoever.