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I use left alt all the time. Alt Gr not so much. Actually I'm trying to think when I have ever used alt gr
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#5
Beyond a certain level of fanaticism, SJWs become indistinguishable from a bipolar person having an episode. Call it Lensherr's Law.

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#6
Alt Left =/= SJWs tho
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Beyond a certain level of fanaticism, SJWs become indistinguishable from a bipolar person having an episode. Call it Lensherr's Law.


This shit is hilarious, check it

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#9
"atheism forever" lmao
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#10
People say the altleft is nbd but they viciously attack Alex Jones - a lowly nutrient salesman - on Twitter almost constantly
#12
some kind of anarchism?
O.K.

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~ Bill Watterson


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#13
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some kind of anarchism?
hey don't involve me in this shit
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#14
There's like eighteen thousand varieties or so of left-leaning anarchism
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#15
I'm pretty sure that's the irony here actually. The right are coherent enough to actually have an identifiable (though personally it seems a meaningless terms) 'alt'. Whereas the left has pretty much uniformly been stuck on in-fighting over The Right Way to free ourselves from The Oppression

Case in point: the labour party
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I'm pretty sure that's the irony here actually. The right are coherent enough to actually have an identifiable (though personally it seems a meaningless terms) 'alt'. Whereas the left has pretty much uniformly been stuck on in-fighting over The Right Way to free ourselves from The Oppression

Case in point: the labour party


Yeah, though the anti-establishment right being coherent (at least in 'merica) to be worth mentioning at all is fairly new. I'm thinking of the genuinely libertarian predecessors to the Tea Party before they were eaten by the Republicans. I wonder why an "alt-right" has developed sooner than a meaningful alt-left.
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#20
~*~*~ there's only one status quo but there are many alternatives to the status quo ~*~*~

keeping in mind that the aim to maintain the status quo is only a single facet of a much broader understanding of conservative or right-leaning politics.
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I wonder why an "alt-right" has developed sooner than a meaningful alt-left.


Cuz ein volk ein reich etc

jk it's just reactionary interneting disguised as politics
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#23
Is the "alt-left" not the group of people call "social justice warriors"

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#24
I think #ALTLEFT is easier to hashtag than #ANNOYINGVOCALMINORITY, hence it's vague application.
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Is the "alt-left" not the group of people call "social justice warriors"


SJWs seems more like a subset of an "alt-left," because there are anti-establishment leftists who aren't total tryhards (and care about social justice).
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#26
First you gotta define social justice warriors

That phrase would give a positivist an anyeurism
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#27
ye for reals

Sort of like "political correctness," whatever the hell that is.
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#28
I did write a long ass post last year arguing that it's a way for people to say prejudiced shit in a socially acceptable way and that it's abused by controlling pricks but idk where it is
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#29
Gotcha and probably agree with most or all of it

Emphasis on abusing it for controlling reasons

edit - And there's plenty of speech by progressive dingleberries which is similarly controlling in a coercive and/or discourse-terminating manner, though I'd argue that it's a small (though growing) portion of the overall political discussion in whatever context you turn to.
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Yeah, though the anti-establishment right being coherent (at least in 'merica) to be worth mentioning at all is fairly new. I'm thinking of the genuinely libertarian predecessors to the Tea Party before they were eaten by the Republicans. I wonder why an "alt-right" has developed sooner than a meaningful alt-left.

Maybe cuz before now the left was not seen as an establishment, but an outside corrupting force.

The alt right is a movement though. The ideology is not new, but its salience is ( not in modern times)
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#31
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Maybe cuz before now the left was not seen as an establishment, but an outside corrupting force.

The alt right is a movement though. The ideology is not new, but its salience hasn't ( not in modern times)


CULTURAL MARXISM

I wonder how that perception will change if/when left-of-center neoliberals (i.e., Hussein Obama and Clinton, etc.) are the de facto long-term establishment.
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I wonder how that perception will change if/when left-of-center neoliberals (i.e., Hussein Obama and Clinton, etc.) are the de facto long-term establishment.

I think you got your answer in the alt right movement Pres is black = white people oppressed
#33
Political correctness cultivates taboos around certain topics to suppress an open dialectic in an attempt to brand certain topics of controversy as settled, and opposing viewpoints as nothing more than prejudiced. I've heard it argued that political correctness is the fillip for social change, but its proponents underestimate its aggravating effect on people they'd consider their moral inferiors.
#34
If the abstract idea of "political correctness" and not being able to say the N-word or w/e is something that gets you genuinely riled up then you've got an easy life.
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#35
I don't think you're entirely wrong, but that seems an overly narrow assessment of how the phrase is used. There's a reasonable use--that it's a critique of shutting down conversations on taboo topics, as you said--and then there's a puerile version where it's a catchall term to lampoon leftist virtues in general and shut down conversations.

@Rossenrot
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#36
I'm generally opposed to political correctness as a tactic but it's always fun to see white people complain that they can't use certain epithets without "getting in trouble"
#37
I agree with the tenant that censorship overall is not constructive. However, there are far too many dickheads for us to have nice things.
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#38
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I don't think you're entirely wrong, but that seems an overly narrow assessment of how the phrase is used. There's a reasonable use--that it's a critique of shutting down conversations on taboo topics, as you said--and then there's a puerile version where it's a catchall term to lampoon leftist virtues in general and shut down conversations.

@Rossenrot


Well yeah, but it's one of many catchphrases used to discredit an idea before its ever explained. Both sides are guilty of it.

As for people not being able to use certain words, context matters. The word Nigger is perfectly usable in certain contexts, granted that the audience is mature enough to digest it.
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#39
Functionally speaking, I'd say it's almost entirely veiled statements. A variation on X word is made that's the currently acceptable one so people can say exactly the same thing in a way which doesn't bruise egos.

What /results/ is what Rossen described, as its a surprisingly effective political tool (and one that any serious Marxist would deride, ironically). Get rid of broken propositions and maybe meaningful discourse can take place.
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As for people not being able certain words, context matters. The word Nigger is perfectly usable in certain context s, granted that the audience is mature enough to digest it.
#triggered
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#40
Politics is a circlejerk of poorly defined terms.
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