has anyone done a trem king installation or know someone who has? im planning on installing one, and am curious if it impacts tone negatively...

#1
So, after much deliberation I have begun putting serious thought into installing a trem-king on the warmoth superstrat I recently got and posted about here.
if you don't know what that is, http://www.tremking.com
it has nothing to do with the schecter bridge being low-quality, in fact it seems GREAT quality.
it has nothing to do with tuning stability -- even though the trem king is better in that regard.
it has EVERYTHING to do with the drawbacks of floating tremolo systems.

I'm just worried that routing out the body could take this great sounding guitar, and turn it into a pile of dog poo in terms of tone. I know it probably wouldn't be that drastic of a change, but you know, I get squeamish about routing guitar bodies even a little.

did it actually improve the tone? I heard some people say it did, because there is more bridge-body contact with this than any floating trem.

Ive used floating trems for years, and I'm pretty damn good at setting up vintage ones to stay in tune -- I'm one of those people who never had a problem with stability on these bridges, as long as I was willing to put a few hours into my setup.
Its just, as I grew as a player, I began using bends a lot more, and I almost never use the tremolo anymore. Not because I don't want to -- but because of the bridge sag on string bending, the fact that the intonation point can move around, and even if I can keep the things in tune relatively, there is a large part of luck to this too.

the benefits of the trem-king are so many and so great I cant believe these aren't more popular.
for one, they don't float at ALL -- but you get a great range (I think 3 steps, but don't quote me) on EVERY string. you also can bend ENTIRE CHORDS with the thing, there is no drawbacks of floating bridges, so you can bend and palm mute all day.

it doesn't have the range of a Floyd, but its VERY cool.
I'm not expecting it to be perfect, or even to be abused constantly. I just want a trem that simply DOESNT get in the way when I don't want to use it or drag other strings out of tune.

the other benefits are just a plus, although I do love the idea of being able to use the bar for phrasing a lot more often, and especially its potential for chords.
Gear:

Jackson dk2m
MIM strat
peavey jsx 2x12 combo
Recording King RDC-26
Digitch RP1000
Crybaby 535Q
#2
could you post a pic of your bridge that is on the guitar now as it is?

are you going to be doing the install?
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#3
I haven't done a swap, nor have I used any guitar using a Trem-King. However, I do know of a guitar builder that uses them as standard equipment, Tradition Guitars (of Burleson Texas).

http://www.traditionguitars.com

Drop them a line. They might be able to tell you a bit more about what to expect.

Edit: I notice that Joe Perry bought one of their G1200 guitars, currently priced under $1000. The G120 costs $525. A TKS-1 costs $125. If you're not doing the swap out yourself, it may make sense to simply spend a few extra bucks and simply buy a G120.
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a tech will get you up the rear for the installation though.
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a tech will get you up the rear for the installation though.


That's what I was thinking when I edited my last post. If the labor for the install is over $100, I'd start looking hard at just buying a G120. Hell- a quick look on Reverb reveals new G1200s for $825, and used Traditions of various kinds for not a bunch of cash.


https://reverb.com/marketplace?query=Tradition+guitars&make%5B%5D=tradition&year_min=&year_max=&price_min=&price_max=&ships_to=US_CON&item_region=

https://reverb.com/item/2666680-tradition-g1200-pro-brand-new-msrp-1400-flame-maple-top

https://reverb.com/item/2712659-tradition-g1200-pro-brand-new-msrp-1400-flame-maple-top
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