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#1
Yo, I've been heavily researching pickups and my opinions keep changing and circling around, I need some help haha. I am building a "frankenstrat" type of jobbie with one pickup, and I currently have the body (1998 MIM strat, 99.99% sure it's alder).

I really love the sound of the guitar in Green Day's 59/Slappy, Blink's Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch, and Weezer's Blue and Pinkerton.

I play anything from clean 50's riffs and ska to hard and punk (not really any modern metal, more classic metal if anything)

Pickups I've been looking at (for an idea) -
Seymour Duncan Invader
Seymour Distortion
JB

Please feel free to reccomend anything you think would work for me! Thanks alot for reading.
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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#2
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#3
If you want the invader I'd suggest looking at the dragonfire crusaders. They're apparently better than the invaders and they're basically clones. Plus they have lots of pretty colours! Also worth taking a look are Seymour Duncan JBs. I love their sound and they may work for what you're looking at. I'm not really a hard rock kind of guy (More of a Korn or old school thrash guy) but the pickups that I mentioned could work.
Who needs shred when you've got rhythm guitar? :^)
Guitars:
Jackson King V (With a Wilde L500XL in the bridge)
Ibanez Iron Label RGIX27FEQM (7-string)
#4
invaders are my LEAST favorite pickup that is in seymour duncan catalog.

as far as other pickups go, JB's generally do great in strats.

a pearly gates or a custom custom may be something to look at as well.
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#5
adexder I will definitely check those dragonfires out! Yeah man JBs do have a killer sound.
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#6
trashedlostfdup How come you don't like 'em?
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#7
JB gets my vote, or possibly one of the Custom models.

Absolutely avoid the Invader, and probably the Distortion too. Those are powerful pickups that are a better choice if you're primarily playing metal.
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#8
JB would be the safest bet. I love my pearly gates in my LP but for example some of the harmonics that Van Halen does are not as easy on PG since they are lower output than JBs.
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JB gets my vote, or possibly one of the Custom models.

Absolutely avoid the Invader, and probably the Distortion too. Those are powerful pickups that are a better choice if you're primarily playing metal.


Thank you for your advice
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S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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#10
Quote by 21GunSalute
JB would be the safest bet. I love my pearly gates in my LP but for example some of the harmonics that Van Halen does are not as easy on PG since they are lower output than JBs.


Thanks for your advice as well.
- Guitar(s) -
S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
- Amps/Pedals -
Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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Ernie Ball Regular 10s
#11
Quote by SlappyHours
I really love the sound of the guitar in Green Day's 59/Slappy, Blink's Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch, and Weezer's Blue and Pinkerton.

I play anything from clean 50's riffs and ska to hard and punk (not really any modern metal, more classic metal if anything)


Seymour Duncan
http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/59-bridge


BareKnuckle
https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s⊂=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=nantucket_hsp90

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s⊂=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=mississippi_queen

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s⊂=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=stockholm

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s⊂=humbucker_sized_p90s


RailHammer
http://www.railhammer.com/Billy_Corgan_Bridge.html

http://www.railhammer.com/Nuevo_90_Bridge.html

http://www.railhammer.com/Huevos_90_Bridge.html


Lollar
http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=265&Category_Code=humbucker-pickups


Rio Grande
http://www.riograndepickups.com/fat-bastard-2

http://www.riograndepickups.com/tallboy-2

http://www.riograndepickups.com/dirty-harry-humbucking


Vintage Vibe
http://vintagevibeguitars.com/windows/hum90puWin.html

http://vintagevibeguitars.com/windows/hum_bladeWin.html


The Creamery (Hum 90 or Humbucker Sizes Sonic Six)
http://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/custom-handwound-pickups-from-the-creamery/custom-handwound-humbucker-replacement-pickups.html#custom-humbuckers


Tesla
http://www.teslapickups.com/?products=opus-4


TV Jones
http://www.tvjones.com/tv-classic-plus-pickups.html

http://www.tvjones.com/powertron-plus-pickups.html

http://www.tvjones.com/magnatron-pickups.html

http://www.tvjones.com/supertron-pickups.html
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Awesome man! Thank you so much
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#13
I also suggest Wilde L500XLs. I recently installed a bridge pickup from them in my guitar and it sounds magical. I play heavy metal but I also tried them with a clean tone and crunchy tone and they're pretty great. I'd recommend taking a look because they're fairly cheap and I like them very much.
http://wildepickups.com/
Who needs shred when you've got rhythm guitar? :^)
Guitars:
Jackson King V (With a Wilde L500XL in the bridge)
Ibanez Iron Label RGIX27FEQM (7-string)
#14
Just some insight on that list: because of the musical styles you listed, I tended towards HB-sized P90s/singlecoils and brighter HBs (some, not all).

Oh yeah, a Lollar I forgot:
http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=10-109-13&Category_Code=telecaster-pickups
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#15
Quote by adexder
I also suggest Wilde L500XLs. I recently installed a bridge pickup from them in my guitar and it sounds magical. I play heavy metal but I also tried them with a clean tone and crunchy tone and they're pretty great. I'd recommend taking a look because they're fairly cheap and I like them very much.
http://wildepickups.com/


Dude, sounds awesome, I have to check them out!
- Guitar(s) -
S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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#16
Quote by dannyalcatraz
Just some insight on that list: because of the musical styles you listed, I tended towards HB-sized P90s/singlecoils and brighter HBs (some, not all).

Oh yeah, a Lollar I forgot:
http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=10-109-13&Category_Code=telecaster-pickups


Thank you for the insight, I appreciate you taking not of the styles. I'll check out the lollar too!
- Guitar(s) -
S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
- Amps/Pedals -
Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
Roland Micro Cube
- Strings -
Ernie Ball Regular 10s
#17
dannyalcatraz (or anyone else) do you think a Dirty Fingers would do the trick? It's similar to the Invader but seems to have a bit less bass, be brighter and clearer, and cut through more. I honestly don't know too much about it though.
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#18
That seems to be a pretty high output HB- maybe a bit too hot for what you say you want to play.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
That seems to be a pretty high output HB- maybe a bit too hot for what you say you want to play.


Hmm I see. I'm so torn, been watching videos on pickups all day and I can't determine whatsoever which one I want. I just need a pup that can give me a thick tone for rythem but can still cut through the mix with mids and highs.
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#20
Rosepickups.com has good offerings. Ken can suggest and wind you pickups that get you the sound you want, (playing style and skill is on guitar player). I will try add youtube videos later.
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#21
Quote by adexder
I also suggest Wilde L500XLs. I recently installed a bridge pickup from them in my guitar and it sounds magical. I play heavy metal but I also tried them with a clean tone and crunchy tone and they're pretty great. I'd recommend taking a look because they're fairly cheap and I like them very much.
http://wildepickups.com/


The Wilde L500XL's are a great choice you can order them to spec it might take a month to get them but thwy are great, they are very transparent in that they do an excellent job of not altering the pure string sound allowing you amp/effects to do that instead I oredered a set and love them.

The Duncan JB is of course a great choice as well I have them on three of my guitars and find them to be very vesatile.
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#22
Quote by SlappyHours
Yo, I've been heavily researching pickups and my opinions keep changing and circling around, I need some help haha. I am building a "frankenstrat" type of jobbie with one pickup, and I currently have the body (1998 MIM strat, 99.99% sure it's alder).

I really love the sound of the guitar in Green Day's 59/Slappy, Blink's Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch, and Weezer's Blue and Pinkerton.

I play anything from clean 50's riffs and ska to hard and punk (not really any modern metal, more classic metal if anything)

Pickups I've been looking at (for an idea) -
Seymour Duncan Invader
Seymour Distortion
JB

Please feel free to reccomend anything you think would work for me! Thanks alot for reading.


Based on what you're looking to play I would say the JB is the most suitable from what you listed there. In terms of other options I'd highly recommend branching out of Seymour Duncan options and have a look at DiMarzio. DiMarzio is really killing it in the pick-up category these days, these in particular come to mind for what you play:

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#23
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I am definitely leaning towards the JB but I definitely am going to check all these out!
- Guitar(s) -
S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
- Amps/Pedals -
Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
Roland Micro Cube
- Strings -
Ernie Ball Regular 10s
#24
Now here's another question: Do I get a trembucker or a humbucker? I have a standard strat trem that fits a mim body.
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S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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#25
SlappyHours
You can always get something that sounds cool then EQ it. Also as I said I really like the L500XLs because they're really good pickups, they may have what you're looking for and they can be utilized as rhythmic monsters. They're really clear and cheap too if you order them from the right company.
Who needs shred when you've got rhythm guitar? :^)
Guitars:
Jackson King V (With a Wilde L500XL in the bridge)
Ibanez Iron Label RGIX27FEQM (7-string)
#26
Quote by SlappyHours
Now here's another question: Do I get a trembucker or a humbucker? I have a standard strat trem that fits a mim body.


For a standard Strat with a trem, get a Trembucker. Also, there might be better options than the pickups you mentioned. If you want to do any clean stuff at all, I'd recommend the Custom over the JB, and certainly over the Distortion or Invader.
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#27
Quote by adexder
SlappyHours
You can always get something that sounds cool then EQ it. Also as I said I really like the L500XLs because they're really good pickups, they may have what you're looking for and they can be utilized as rhythmic monsters. They're really clear and cheap too if you order them from the right company.


I'm going to agree with the L500XL they are great pups not that the JB isn't but everyone has a JB right? Plus they are hand made in a small shop using all of Bill's original magnetizers and winders! IIRC mine were $60 each Wilde pickups don't advertise so they pass the savings on.

Here's my L500XL wired up and going in the L500R has already been installed in the neck position!

EDIT: Check out my review- https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/pickups/wilde/l500xl/index.html

"A well-wound coil is a well-wound coil regardless if it's wound with professional equipment, or if somebody's great-grandmother winds it to an old French recipe with Napoleon's modified coffee grinder and chops off the wire after a mile with an antique guillotine!"
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Last edited by Evilnine at Sep 15, 2016,
#28
Thank you everyone again, I am looking into all of this and will be able to update my opinions this weekend

Evilnine, I'll watch your review dude
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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#29
Quote by SlappyHours
Thank you everyone again, I am looking into all of this and will be able to update my opinions this weekend

Evilnine, I'll watch your review dude


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#30
Quote by Evilnine
I'm going to agree with the L500XL they are great pups not that the JB isn't but everyone has a JB right? Plus they are hand made in a small shop using all of Bill's original magnetizers and winders! IIRC mine were $60 each Wilde pickups don't advertise so they pass the savings on.

Here's my L500XL wired up and going in the L500R has already been installed in the neck position!

EDIT: Check out my review- https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/pickups/wilde/l500xl/index.html



Wow, Bill's pickups seem awesome! I am very interested now, I am going to look more into them. I love how they are handmade and more unique than your typical DiMarzios and Duncans.
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S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
Roland Micro Cube
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Ernie Ball Regular 10s
#31
Just for the record, I have to jump on the Bill Lawrence/Wilde L500 bandwagon. I don't own any, but a gigging in-law of mine gets some killer sounds out of his.
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#32
Quote by SlappyHours
Wow, Bill's pickups seem awesome! I am very interested now, I am going to look more into them. I love how they are handmade and more unique than your typical DiMarzios and Duncans.


Do a little research on Bill Lawrence himself he is a very intersting man indeed his contirbution to the electric guitar pickup go far beyond the few known models that he made famous. Bill essentially invented the aftermarket replacement pickup and you may have heard of one of his young apprentices Larry DiMarzio.

http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/About_Bill_Lawrence/Biography.htm

And on the link below just click on the links in the gray box under Bill's picture i found them all to be very informative.

http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/All_About_Tone.htm/Pickupology.htm

Most people have never heard of Wilde pickups and only know Bill Lawrence U.S.A. brand which is no longer associated with Bill himself upon parting ways with his partner who co-founded the company Bill lost the rights to use his own name
"A well-wound coil is a well-wound coil regardless if it's wound with professional equipment, or if somebody's great-grandmother winds it to an old French recipe with Napoleon's modified coffee grinder and chops off the wire after a mile with an antique guillotine!"
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Last edited by Evilnine at Sep 15, 2016,
#33
What sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "You can't use your name professionally" at will to old industry icons.

Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#34
Quote by Evilnine
Do a little research on Bill Lawrence himself he is a very intersting man indeed his contirbution to the electric guitar pickup go far beyond the few known models that he made famous. Bill essentially invented the aftermarket replacement pickup and you may have heard of one of his young apprentices Larry DiMarzio.

http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/About_Bill_Lawrence/Biography.htm

And on the link below just click on the links in the gray box under Bill's picture i found them all to be very informative.

http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/All_About_Tone.htm/Pickupology.htm

Most people have never heard of Wilde pickups and only know Bill Lawrence U.S.A. brand which is no longer associated with Bill himself upon parting ways with his partner who co-founded the company Bill lost the rights to use his own name
Quote by dannyalcatraz
What sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "You can't use your name professionally" at will to old industry icons.




That sucks man, so weird that they're using his name for publicity.
Wildepickups sounds better anyways
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S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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Ernie Ball Regular 10s
#35
Quote by dannyalcatraz
What sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "You can't use your name professionally" at will to old industry icons.



Sad times indeed! You can still buy Bill Lawrence USA pickups my friend bought one and it sounded nowhere near as good as my Wilde pickup it was very thin and spikey treblewise, the funny thing is the equipment was split and both he and Bill were useing the original coil winders and magnetizers that had always been used I guess it helps to be the Master R.I.P Bill!
"A well-wound coil is a well-wound coil regardless if it's wound with professional equipment, or if somebody's great-grandmother winds it to an old French recipe with Napoleon's modified coffee grinder and chops off the wire after a mile with an antique guillotine!"
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Last edited by Evilnine at Sep 16, 2016,
#36
Quote by Evilnine
Sad times indeed! You can still buy Bill Lawrence USA pickups my friend bought one and it sounded nowhere near as good as my Wilde pickup it was very thin and spikey treblewise

Wilde is the way to go. I've heard things about quality inconsistencies with BLUSA, sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not (usually), but the Wilde is guaranteed to be the real deal. I'm so used to how hot they are that I can't play anything that's less hot 'cause it just sounds weird.
Who needs shred when you've got rhythm guitar? :^)
Guitars:
Jackson King V (With a Wilde L500XL in the bridge)
Ibanez Iron Label RGIX27FEQM (7-string)
#37
Quote by adexder
Wilde is the way to go. I've heard things about quality inconsistencies with BLUSA, sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not (usually), but the Wilde is guaranteed to be the real deal. I'm so used to how hot they are that I can't play anything that's less hot 'cause it just sounds weird.


Do these things cut through the mix like the JB?
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Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
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#38
Quote by SlappyHours
Do these things cut through the mix like the JB?

Cutting through the mix has more to do with your EQ, volume, tone, and your amp (Stuff like that), but if I had to say if the pickups did or not I would say yes. They're very clear and sound beautiful. Listen to some Pantera and you'll know. The L500XL is the pickup their guitarist Dime used (May he rest in peace)
Who needs shred when you've got rhythm guitar? :^)
Guitars:
Jackson King V (With a Wilde L500XL in the bridge)
Ibanez Iron Label RGIX27FEQM (7-string)
#39
Quote by adexder
Cutting through the mix has more to do with your EQ, volume, tone, and your amp (Stuff like that), but if I had to say if the pickups did or not I would say yes. They're very clear and sound beautiful. Listen to some Pantera and you'll know. The L500XL is the pickup their guitarist Dime used (May he rest in peace)


That is true man, EQ is a huge factor. Yeah I think it's awesome Dimebag used 'em. I'm not a huge Pantera fan (they're cool though) but I'm a big fan of Darrell, and his tone is killer. Yes, may he rest in peace.
- Guitar(s) -
S-1 Schecter Diamond Series (Stock)
- Amps/Pedals -
Line 6 Spider IV 30w (Not ashamed) with MKII footswitch
Roland Micro Cube
- Strings -
Ernie Ball Regular 10s
#40
Quote by SlappyHours
That is true man, EQ is a huge factor. Yeah I think it's awesome Dimebag used 'em. I'm not a huge Pantera fan (they're cool though) but I'm a big fan of Darrell, and his tone is killer. Yes, may he rest in peace.


FYI DIME always installed his L500XLs flipped 180 degrees so the hot coil was away from the bridge instead of right next to it it is a short distance but apparently made a difference to his ears, I installed mine like that just for good measure!
"A well-wound coil is a well-wound coil regardless if it's wound with professional equipment, or if somebody's great-grandmother winds it to an old French recipe with Napoleon's modified coffee grinder and chops off the wire after a mile with an antique guillotine!"
- Bill Lawrence

Come and be with me
Live my twisted dream
Pro devoted pledge
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