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What do you think of music that has "potential?" Do you think it's a valid criticism or describer of music or is it just lazy?

I personally like bands I describe as having potential. It's a lot more interesting to listen to a band or artist progress and take on different elements as they move through work than if they came out as a completed artist with a definitive album as their first record.
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#3
The worst thing a work can be is boring (though I think that you can get what you put in, within reason). If something lacks general excitement but has something tacked on that shows it can grow, that is fantastic for both author and subject.

If an artist releases their definitive album first that implies that we're looking in retrospect. But even Muse had their MO on their follow-up.
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pretty much feel the same as you, TS, though having a mindblowing first album is p cool in my book
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pretty much feel the same as you, TS, though having a mindblowing first album is p cool in my book
it's good but it's like buying coke from a dealer and realising they hooked you on the premium stuff and then you're buying the shit stuff from then on and you'll never forget the premium but even if you could afford it you've had that spoiled for you through constant exposure and it's RUINED STEWIE IT"S RUINED MUSE WHY YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST FREE JAZZ BAND THIS SIDE OF MERCURY
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it's good but it's like buying coke from a dealer and realising they hooked you on the premium stuff and then you're buying the shit stuff from then on and you'll never forget the premium but even if you could afford it you've had that spoiled for you through constant exposure and it's RUINED STEWIE IT"S RUINED MUSE WHY YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST FREE JAZZ BAND THIS SIDE OF MERCURY


then you can always go on a youtube video of your favorite song 10 years after it was released and comment "wish they still sounded like this"

people do that for AFI and I'm just like "it's been 20 years. let it go"
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I just can't ejaculate unless I have $1mil in payment and a threat upon my favourite bands children if they don't make a new album of post-progressive jazzgrind.
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then you can always go on a youtube video of your favorite song 10 years after it was released and comment "wish they still sounded like this"

people do that for AFI and I'm just like "it's been 20 years. let it go"


AFI actually got better when they went to commerical emo tho

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I like bands that have potential, a lot. It's one reason why I respect QotSA; the sound has changed so much over the course of their discography. At the same time, I like bands that are kinda one trick, like My Sleeping Karma, just because they've perfected their style.
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AFI actually got better when they went to commerical emo tho



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AFI actually got better when they went to commerical emo tho


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Excluding the latest album or two of AFI as I haven't gave it a listen, but AFI's early and later commercial emo albums had some really fantastic moments for what they were going for.
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When I use the term "potential" for a band, it's when I listen to a song that I don't quite like, but feel curious to listen to more stuff from that band because, although not having really liked that specific song, it feels like I'd enjoy some other stuff from that said band.

It's not necessarily good or bad; it's more like a we'll see. It can go both ways.

And I still haven't listened to more songs by Boston Manor, Lyle, but I took note of the band's name, and I'll check it eventually
#14
With Spotifty weekly I am finding some great songs from small bands and am thinking holy shit they are great, so I go to listen to their other stuff and I feel sad when they don't live up to their potential. Sort of makes me appreciate those artists who put out so much stuff I like even more than before though so that's good.
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#15
I dunno really

On the one hand it seems condescending and almost dismissive, but I think that depends on the effort the band put into the music. Maybe they were rushed, and potential truly wasn't met? On the other hand, maybe they're garbage and try to sound that way
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#18
What on Earth, I've never heard of music being described as having "potential"
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#21
And lacking it to begin with is even less of a nothing
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#22
I don't see how describing a band as having potential is a negative thing. All it means is that they have the ability to be better than they are, it doesn't mean they are necessarily bad.

Like I would describe Animals As Leader's first album as having potential. I still like it, but I don't feel they hit their stride until their third album. Doesn't mean the first one is bad.
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I don't see how describing a band as having potential is a negative thing. All it means is that they have the ability to be better than they are, it doesn't mean they are necessarily bad.
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Since ALL bands have "potential" to improve, it's a meaningless term, in other words.
#25
One would almost be inclined to think that when someone says something has potential they mean it less in a platitudinal way, and more in a "moreso than most bands do". A basic bit of thought can grasp *that*

If you want to interrogate what words commonly used are (at least often) functionally meaningless you're in for a hell of a bumpy ride that line of enquiry ends in a very dark place.
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One would almost be inclined to think that when someone says something has potential they mean it less in a platitudinal way,.


That is known as a "backhanded compliment", which is partial insult.
#27
If that's how you choose to view it, so be it. I see it as an addendum to a critique which says "but, this is what they do have - and that which we say they do is that which the hordes of other bands do not".

As I said before - if you're going to take things entirely literally, you're going to end up somewhere you probably won't like.
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Since ALL bands have "potential" to improve, it's a meaningless term, in other words.


True, but if I heard a band that sounded like ass I wouldn't describe them as having potential, I would describe them as sounding like ass.

If I heard a band that had some cool ideas but weren't quite there yet, I would describe them as having potential.
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That is known as a "backhanded compliment", which is partial insult.


Not really. One of my favourite bands, Architects, released some cracking albums but I always thought they had unfufiled potential. Their latest album fulfilled that potential. It wasn't their best album but they finally got there with the songwriting and melodic stuff that I'd been hoping they'd do for years
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Not really. One of my favourite bands, Architects, released some cracking albums but I always thought they had unfufiled potential. Their latest album fulfilled that potential. It wasn't their best album but they finally got there with the songwriting and melodic stuff that I'd been hoping they'd do for years
Exactly. The potential is always subjective to what someone wanted from a band which they haven't quite got yet. What I see as improvement, other people may see as terrible and vice versa.