#1
do you believe that some people are born with natural talents? I guess I could go as far as to ask the question of born innate traits vs environment, experience, developed traits. Is innate talent a myth or real? I tend to believe its real because some people just pick up things faster. For instance, two musicians who have been playing same amount of time could be at totally different levels. In fact the one that rarely practices can be better then the musician who practices daily for hours. Hard works does pays off, but some people just seem get by without it,
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#3
Yeah. People can be born with physical attributes that make it easier to, for instance, sprint faster than the average person.

People are also born with different mental attributes that make it easier to learn different things and in different ways. So some people definitely are more naturally gifted guitarists than others. Song writing as well, some people can write songs every day, some people can't even write an original chord progression.
#4
yeah, talent is sort of a limit to ones own capacity or skill, kinda like intelligence
but i would lump talent more so to ones deep appreciation for that skill or understanding

some call it being a "prodigy", like they pick up a skill extremely fast from a young age and run with it until they're the best in the world
i read up on all kinds of stories of extremely bright asian kids graduating university with masters degrees in engineering at the age of like 10!

it's really crazy stuff, but just "talent" alone is something pretty much everyone possesses
most people just don't know they have a talent, but those of us who find our talents young in life are generally happy because it turns into real passion, despite not having an off the charts IQ...
(music, art, graphic design, directing film, sports, etc)
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Duh.
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Song writing as well, some people can write songs every day, some people can't even write an original chord progression.
Also yeah, my dad is definitely the former whereas I'm the latter. He's better at writing but not developing different techniques, and I'm better at different techniques but not at writing.

He's been playing guitar probably since I was born and only learned about pinch harmonics just a few years ago.
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#8
fuck pinch harmonics

I've been playing for 6 years (???) now and I still can't fucking do a pinch harmonic
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fuck pinch harmonics

I've been playing for 6 years (???) now and I still can't fucking do a pinch harmonic

I've been playing for 11 and they sometimes happen

They're kinda silly anyway so whatever
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fuck pinch harmonics

I've been playing for 6 years (???) now and I still can't fucking do a pinch harmonic
I got the hang of them as soon as I knew they existed. And I'm self-taught lmao.

Have you tried it with different pickup settings on your guitar? I've learned that some harmonics don't pick up virtually at all on certain pickup settings. Try experimenting?

The lower end pickups pick them up the best imo, but I'm a bit of a dolt when it comes to all things guitar. Except how to play it, obvs.
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I got the hang of them as soon as I knew they existed. And I'm self-taught lmao.

Have you tried it with different pickup settings on your guitar? I've learned that some harmonics don't pick up virtually at all on certain pickup settings. Try experimenting?

The lower end pickups pick them up the best imo, but I'm a bit of a dolt when it comes to all things guitar. Except how to play it, obvs.


I can do them like, 65% of the time on my friend's guitar (i think an ESP something something, been a while) but other than that, I struggle lol. And yeah, I switch my pickups around and everything and I still can't do them on purpose. I do them on accident occasionally but I can never intentionally recreate them, at least on my current guitar, which is just a basic Schecter Omen 6
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I've been playing for 11 and they sometimes happen

They're kinda silly anyway so whatever
On wound strings, I can only do them by accident. Normally right after failing to do it on purpose, so it sounds even worse, because it's kind of like when Father Ted insists he can do the chord change in My Lovely Horse.
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#14
We likely have certain inherent traits which generally correlate with talents seen in man-made life.

I would argue that if a virtuoso guitarist had started on piano instead they would remain exceptionally skilled providing the initial virtuosity was partially that "innate" skill. I'd see it absurd to say that it's actually a natural talent for music.
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To relate this to guitar, read a book called "Guitar Zero" by Gary Marcus. The author is a developmental psychologist who seeks to force himself to learn guitar, despite not appearing to have any inherent musical ability. He also does a lot of (easy to understand) analysis of a wide number of studies around the whole "Nature vs Nurture" debate.

It's pretty good reading
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#16
I feel like I was born with a natural talent for batting in baseball, strangely enough I just thought about this last night. My brother has told me in the past that it seemed as if I was "born" to hit. That being said, if that's really the case then man did I blow that one.
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#17
To a degree, maybe, but I think a lot of people use "I have no talent" as an excuse to not put any effort into getting better at something. Most people can do most things pretty well with determination, persistence, and discipline - things most people lack.
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lmao how can you guys not do pinch harmonics?
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spoken like someone who can't do 'em
Spoken like a cunt.
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I can do them like, 65% of the time on my friend's guitar (i think an ESP something something, been a while) but other than that, I struggle lol. And yeah, I switch my pickups around and everything and I still can't do them on purpose. I do them on accident occasionally but I can never intentionally recreate them, at least on my current guitar, which is just a basic Schecter Omen 6


Depending on what fret you are on it makes a difference where you pick on the string at least in my experience.

If pinching a harmonic were as easy as pinching a loaf we could all be Zakk Wylde amirite!

As far as natural talent some people are absolutely born with it my brother was one of them he can draw anything, play music, sing, airbrushing etc. although TBH he wastes his talent and works as assistant manager at an auto parts store. He carves badass custom artwork on guitars and I have been trying to get him to carve one of mine for 4 years now.
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I think humans are capable of doing anything perfectly if the interest and access to the thing is provided early enough.
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#26
haha this pinch harmonic thing is good example. I have trouble with them too, but apparently slapsymcdougal has no problem with. Im terrible at speed tremolo picking. I tried so many times and had teachers show the technique but i just can't move that fast, but hey my friend just picks up the guitar and nails it first try. smh
#27
^Just grip the pick close to the tip, and when you hit the string, do it deep and rigid. And kind of twist your wrist up fast as you strike it. Like a demonic cobra. MAKE IT SCREAM.


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#28
50% natural talent, 50% hard work and determination. You need both to fly high.
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