Does anybody know any good metal bands that use 7 string guitars?

#1
[SOLVED] I have decided to just stick with a 6. It's not worth buying a 7.

When I say metal I mean metal, not that Djent trash where you just quickly play some random low nonsense and then some random high notes.

Anyway, I'm about to purchase an RG7 and I'd like to know of some good bands that use 7 strings.
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#3
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When I say metal I mean metal, not that Djent trash where you just quickly play some random low nonsense and then some random high notes.
So clearly you're not big on djent, but what are you actually looking for? Lots of metal bands use seven strings, but since you apparently have a strained relationship with the concepts of objectivity and subjectivity it's hard to say whether you'll think they're good if we don't know what you like.

Bear in mind also that you don't necessarily need to use a 7 string for songs written on a 7 string, but also for songs that would require downtuning on a 6 string. Presumably if you're buying a seven string you have some idea what you want to do with it, no?
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When I say metal I mean metal, not that Djent trash where you just quickly play some random low nonsense and then some random high notes.

Anyway, I'm about to purchase an RG7 and I'd like to know of some good bands that use 7 strings.


post fail. no good information for us.

ok, we know you don't do djent, i don't like it either.

what kind of 'metal' do you like? there are very many different types.

i must say i prefer baritones over sevens, just something to think about.
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#5
You really haven't thought this through, have you?

Why do you actually want a 7 string if you're even asking this question??

This is a classic case of somebody buying something on pure impulse. Buying something because it looks shiny and because it sounds cool to say you own a 7 string, forking over your cash for one and then realising that you have absolutely no idea what to do with what you just bought. Brilliant.
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You really haven't thought this through, have you?

Why do you actually want a 7 string if you're even asking this question??

This is a classic case of somebody buying something on pure impulse. Buying something because it looks shiny and because it sounds cool to say you own a 7 string, forking over your cash for one and then realising that you have absolutely no idea what to do with what you just bought. Brilliant.


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#7
fuck if you want to be cool why stop at seven???, go for an eight string, or even more badass a nine string.
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To answer the question, sort of: ERGs are popping up in all kinds of metal. Guitarists in Korn, Dream Theater, Meshuggah, High On Fire and others are using all kinds of 7, 8, 9 string guitars and so forth.

But the others are right- you need to analyze why you want an ERG, and then ask us if it's the right path for you. Then maybe we can help.
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#11
also, it is perfectly possible to get into Bstd on a six string, you will need a thorough setup, nutwork, and just a lot of adjustments. some like it, some don't.

for example Kirk Winstein and pepper keenen of down both use C#std with 24.75" scale on guitars regularly.
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Waiting for TS to come back to this thread.
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also, it is perfectly possible to get into Bstd on a six string, you will need a thorough setup, nutwork, and just a lot of adjustments. some like it, some don't.

for example Kirk Winstein and pepper keenen of down both use C#std with 24.75" scale on guitars regularly.


And I have guitars that scale in NST, which has a nice low C at its base.
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#18
Unearth uses a 7-string. You're very unspecific as far as defining "metal".
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#19
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you just quickly play some random low nonsense and then some random high notes.


That's like 97% of music though.

Anyway, I'm about to purchase an RG7 and I'd like to know of some good bands that use 7 strings.


Andrei Sikhra, Dino Sete Cordas, and George Van Eps are considered to be perhaps the greatest pioneers of the 7 string by their respective biographers.
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#21
One obvious band is Dream theatre.... I love their songs

Also can anyone tell me how to start a new thread or if that is not possible can somebody answer this question
"How to play tabs of & string guitar on a six string guitar?"
I have a 6 string guitar but for the song Illumination theory by dream theatre all the tabs I can find for free are for & string.... Any help?
#22
^ He said Dream Theater.

I would suggest Nevermore The other band I would name is Necrophagist.
If you want to play 7-strings then you should use it to its full extent.

Other artist, although not metal but virtuosos like Joe Satriani and Steve Vai.





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One obvious band is Dream theatre.... I love their songs

Also can anyone tell me how to start a new thread or if that is not possible can somebody answer this question
"How to play tabs of 7 string guitar on a six string guitar?"
I have a 6 string guitar but for the song Illumination theory by dream theatre all the tabs I can find for free are for 7; string.... Any help?

Your favorite band is not very obvious to anyone if you don't actually tell us what it is. We're not mind-readers.

To answer your question:

Short answer: You can't. If you want to play songs that were recorded with 7 strings, you need a 7 string guitar.

Long answer: You can downtune a 6 so that the 6th string matches the tuning of a 7 and tune the remaining strings to the same 6 string guitar intervals relative to that note. But in doing that, the interval between the 2nd and 3rd string on a downtuned 6 ends up not being the same on a 7. The major 3rd interval effectively shifts upward a string on a 7, which affects what the 2nd string is tuned to, and by extension what the 1st string is tuned to, relative to a downtuned 6.

To illustrate this,

A 7 string in standard tuning is tuned: B E A D G B E
A 6 string tuned to B standard is tuned: B E A D F# B

Notice how the 1st and 2nd string on a 6 string are not tuned the same way as a 7.

The consequence of this is that many of the shapes of chords, scales, arpeggios etc. on a 7 string do not carry over to a 6 string very well, if at all. Many chords on a 7 string are impossible to transpose on a 6.
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Pretty sure Amon Amarth plays drop A, B standard and C standard with 6's.
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Yeah I was gonna say Unearth. Trivium on the crusade, shogun...Korn haha
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#26
Yeah Amon Amarth use 6 strings. Apart from that I think everything listed here is correct.

I was hoping for a good read but TS appears to have abandoned this thread so I am disappoint.

To answer the question:

Animals As Leaders
Avantasia
The Contortionist
Devin Townsend
Dream Theater
Fear Factory
Meshuggah
Monuments
Northlane
Periphery
Steve Vai
Tesseract
Thy Art Is Murder
Trivium
Veil of Maya

Owait all those bands have low notes followed by high notes. Never mind.
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#28
I think you guys scared TS away

I too am not a fan of djent or any musical onomatopoeia for that matter.

As far as ERG I personally do not have a great need for them I do however own one seven string it is a Schecter Damien Elite 7 I bought it in near mint condition for $300 from a friend and TBH although it is a decent and vey playable guitar it doesn't get a lot of amp time simply because I prefer 6 strings and own several of them so I can afford to have them tuned differently to facilitate my needs (I don't typically tune down lower than C).

I prefer the scale and neck width of 6 strings but the 7 does come in handy on occasion.
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#30
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A 7 string in standard tuning is tuned: B E A D G B E
A 6 string tuned to B standard is tuned: B E A D F# B

There is absolutely no reason you can't tune your 6 string to B E A D G B.
Then you can play everything the same as on a 7 string except for the highest string, works very well for bands that don't have much lead playing. (Also yeah, you can't play really big chords but those are pretty rare anyway.)
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There is absolutely no reason you can't tune your 6 string to B E A D G B.
Then you can play everything the same as on a 7 string except for the highest string, works very well for bands that don't have much lead playing. (Also yeah, you can't play really big chords but those are pretty rare anyway.)

There's no reason you can't. But I don't think the nature of Dream Theater's music is going to make that a realistic option.
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#34
OP triggers Djent fags so hard they start pretending they dont like it

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post fail. no good information for us.

ok, we know you don't do djent, i don't like it either.

what kind of 'metal' do you like? there are very many different types.

i must say i prefer baritones over sevens, just something to think about.


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There's no reason you can't. But I don't think the nature of Dream Theater's music is going to make that a realistic option.

True but you're likely to be able to play more of it with a B E A D G B tuning which is closer to a standard 7 string tuning, than B E A D F# B. And in general it's a better option, some bands it will work well for if not Dream Theater.
You really need two 6 strings, one tuned B E A D G B for rhythm and one E A D G B E for lead
#36
I know you've resolved some questions but here's some 7-string music that's pretty cool. I own a 7 string and it really smashes pretty much any other guitar I have with its tone. These songs aren't really generic metal but they have elements of it



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#37
T00DEEPBLUE True in general, but sometimes when people buy things they learn to like them. I bought my first guitar on impulse b/c it looked cool (basically). Been playing for 10+ years now... That being said, I have almost impulse purchased 7 strings. Luckily I actually tried it out and discovered that I play it just like a 6 string so its definitely not a good purchase for me.
#38
I have a seven string, thought I'll need it in my new band as the other guitarist had one, he left so now I am back to a 6 string

There's just always something awkward for me in the expanded neck and the low notes are just much better when played by a bassist.

Nevermore used at the end of their career 7 string to some extent, out of the new crop of bands I think I only like what Allageon is doing with it.
#39
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The expanded neck is a bit awkward at first but the more you play it the better it gets. Since I started playing the 7 string, my playing on all other guitars has gotten way better because it forces me to use my hands more efficiently
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