Poll: How would you classify your political beliefs?
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View poll results: How would you classify your political beliefs?
Liberal/Democrat
23 34%
Conservative/Republican
10 15%
Libertarian
6 9%
Socialist
11 16%
Independent
6 9%
Other
11 16%
Voters: 67.
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#1
I was just wondering what the popular political stances of guitarists are. It would also be interesting to know what kind of music you play. I am not sure if there will be a trend at all, but perhaps country musicians think differently than metalheads. This is primarily aimed at Americans, but other answers are welcome.
#2
I feel like this is a question that is going to yield no correlative results
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Till I hit the ground?
#3
I think 99% of guitarist don't care/understand this stuff. Except Tom Morello
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#4
This will end well.

somewhere around mutualism, but I don't buy some of their ideas about private property.

From what I can tell most people here are centre left
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#6
fucking libtards.
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#8
Full spectrum just like the general population. There are deep-left all the way to crazed-right and everything in between.
"Your sound is in your hands as much as anything. It's the way you pick, and the way you hold the guitar, more than it is the amp or the guitar you use." -- Stevie Ray Vaughan

"Anybody can play. The note is only 20 percent. The attitude of the motherfucker who plays it is 80 percent." -- Miles Davis
#9
It entirely depends on the person.

Johnny Ramone was an A-class prick and a half, for instance.
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#11
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#16
inb4 me

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#17
Im a Jeep but I identify as a Prius.


Where is my representation?
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#18
Why does it have to be black and white? What about people who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative?
#19
Pretty sure this is a non-question. It's like asking what brand of foot-warmers NBA players prefer. My dad plays guitar and I'd consider him socially centre-right. I personally am more on the left, with a couple right-wing feathers here and there (for instance I believe same-sex couples should be allowed to be as miserable as they want to be while I also believe that people should be allowed to own guns. I also believe capitalism isn't all bad, and in fact is one of the better economic models we have). Then you have guys like Ted Nugent and Tom Morello, both of which have already been named, on opposite sides of the spectrum.
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Why does it have to be black and white? What about people who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative?
Isn't that libertarian?
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#20
Wolfinator-xI guess to some degree. Obviously there's a million more issues that a party can have a stance on and it's usually impossible to identify with one party 100%
#22
They are just team names at this point.

Liberals are actually liberal about as much as the New York Jets are actually airplanes playing football.
#23
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Wolfinator-xI guess to some degree. Obviously there's a million more issues that a party can have a stance on and it's usually impossible to identify with one party 100%
I agree wholeheartedly, and I think a lot of people don't realize this. You're probably never going to get a candidate that falls in line with absolutely everything you believe in, and if you do, somebody else is going to scream and cry that this candidate is misrepresenting the party's ideologies. I feel for whoever genuinely tries to represent the people because "the people" aren't some monolithic blob of ideology. Sanders and Clinton supporters are both "democrats" but they usually hate the candidate that doesn't represent "them".

I'm not American, so it's odd speaking about American politics as if I am, but I really liked president Obama, at least as a guy. I don't agree with everything he has said or believes in, but he comes off as a real, genuine guy and is among the better presidents the USA has had. Anyone can disagree with me, that's fine, I'm sure they have their reasons, and hey, they may be right. But Obama, as imperfect a politician he is, is a pretty good one in my opinion. To a further extent, Sanders as well. I disagree with even more things Sanders campaigned for, but I would have liked to see him elected, among all the candidates the USA has had this season. Basically, I'd buy both Obama and Sanders a beer if given the opportunity.

I personally did not like Justin Trudeau before we elected him and I instead wanted to vote NDP or Green Party but, despite certain things he has done (such as selling millions of dollars worth of weapons to the middle-east) and said, he pleasantly surprised me when he took office. It must be hard to choose a job that requires that at least half the country will dislike you.
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They are just team names at this point.

Liberals are actually liberal about as much as the New York Jets are actually airplanes playing football.

I also agree to some extent with this sentiment. "Liberal", "conservative", "right", "left", "feminist", "socialist", "democrat", "republican", etc. are all really subjective and kind of meaningless terms for the reason I stated above. There are so many types of sub-categories and political definitions are subject to change by their very nature as politics morph with the time period. So, instead of labels, I think people should instead present themselves with actual opinions they have.

For example, instead of "liberal" someone could tell me they are pro-choice, for same-sex marriage and socialized healthcare (but they believe in second amendment rights). Instead of "conservative" they could tell me they're pro-life, capitalist and believe in second amendment rights (but believe gay marriage should be legalized). Again, these are examples, but you'll rarely find someone completely on the left or completely on the right. Of course, for the sake of simplicity, there are cases (like in my first post) where an umbrella term is more appropriate.
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#24
Hes sooo dreamy
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#25
tbh I love Justin. He's not a fucking robot. Sure he's going to make shitty corrupt choices like that but in this day and age it's inevitable.

I am a little upset that he's not going to do the voting reform thing though..
#26
Robots are programmed to do a task and finish it efficiently so youre definitely right there.
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#27
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Robots are programmed to do a task and finish it efficiently so youre definitely right there.
*air horns*

Though tbh that response is far more fitting for Harper.
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#28
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Why does it have to be black and white? What about people who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative?

Those are libertarians.
#31
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Those are libertarians.
Also neoliberals, ironically
#32
Depends on the genre, but most are what I guess you'd define as libertarians...doobie smoking, easy to get along hippie types, but now, if we're talking lead singers that also play guitar...that could be closer to fascist
#33
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I guess you'd define as libertarians...doobie smoking, easy to get along hippie types


Have you met any real libertarians?

They are nothing like that definition. At all.

Think grey suits and an ubermensch complex.
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#34
A lot of libertarians don't define themselves as such as they're too busy smoking them doobies and the brain might be on fritz...
Only libertarian I know of directly is Bill Maher, and he is full of himself, so you're probably right.


BTW - seeing pic of Tom Morello reminds me that Rage Against the Machine is one group that really did piss me off politically back in the day. Their shows were disgusting commie propaganda, there was the Commie Youth Brigade setting up booths next to their band merch stations, and they were really aggressively brainwashing their whole audience between songs...and their music wasn't really all that good. The vocalist had a terrible wisp....and while trying to appear as the "common man" they all had lib degrees from University. I guess they were the echelon of Obama's policies
#35
It seems a lot of libertarians you know just seem to be fans of Ron Paul.

Like, ask them about the required philosophy and mentality of a libertarian and there's no guarantee you'll get an educated answer.

I ain't trying to berate you personally or anything btw, I just really.. really dislike actual libertarians.


(dodgy personal rant)

'fiscally conservative, socially progressive' is not what libertarianism means, that's just someone who isn't happy being tied down to a lable. A true libertarian is mostly the other way round, as the ideology reflects the trend for 'individualism' and removing governmental oversight that's present in US conservatism. The key difference is that the libertarian would rather have pretty much no economic oversight on top of that and then integrate it into government services i.e. 'it's the free market, maaaan'.

The true libertarian ideal is that of the narcissist: you are the best because you exist and all the rest of that twisted logic. It attracts the ruthless CEO's and cold businessmen of the world because if they just sycophant their way through it, it'll all bend to their will in the end anyway, or so they might believe.

Few hippy types would identify as one if they actually had a clue.
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#36
Well, if I were to stereotype, most guitarists would be very conservative especially when it comes to the "dad-rockers" or blues guys.

"Oh, if it ain't a Les Paul/Fender Strat through Marshall/Fender, it ain't shit."

"Oh, he plays faster than 16ths at 110bpm? He ain't got no feel."

"I can bend for days."

"That progressive 'djent' is something any hack can do."

As for me, I am pretty politically centrist leaning slightly liberal and libertarian.
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#38
If I had to guess, I'd say left-leaning since most guitarists flock to rock music and who's ever heard of a fiscally and socially conservative rock lyricist?
#39
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Have you met any real libertarians?

They are nothing like that definition. At all.

Think grey suits and an ubermensch complex.
Ah, fuck.
#40
I play guitar rarely and I'm basically a socialist so idk what conclusions you want to draw from this
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