#2
it's not listed on the floyd rose site but i'd suspect the number just refers to the colour of the trem- i.e. it's effectively the same as a 1000 series but just a different colour.

the 1000 series ones are made in Korea, the OFR (or FRO, or whatever they call it these days ) is made in Germany. Some people say they're the same, some people don't. Personally I think the German one is a little better, you can tell corners have been cut and it's been more made down to a price on the Korean one, but at the same time the Korean one is a decent trem (and should be a direct swap for a German one, or a Schaller Lockmeister, which as far as I'm aware is an OFR just with Schaller branding) and should be fine for going on with.

There used to be a nice webpage outlining all the differences, but it seems to have disappeared
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#3
Dave_Mc

Hmm, never thought of that, they do go by a different number judging by the color don't they? But I dunno if it has anything to do with the color, tbh I doubt it.

The Banshee Elite has the 1500 series too and it comes in a completely different color than the 1500 series that's on the JL-7.
#4
The different numbers simply designate the finish. Nothing else.

I wouldn't trust what the manufacturer's website says about the particular model either. They're often inaccurate from brand to brand.
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#5
It's not just a finish or color difference. According to Schecter, it's got more stainless steel, less parts made of nickel, or whatever the 1000 is made of, and it's got a push in trem arm, rather than the screw collar. I've played one. The push in arm is nice. It's supposed to have "retooled knife edges" which should make for, theoretically, smoother trem action. I just ordered a guitar with one. Once I get it, I'll be able to compare with my floyd 1000 guitar.
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Dave_Mc

Hmm, never thought of that, they do go by a different number judging by the color don't they? But I dunno if it has anything to do with the color, tbh I doubt it.

The Banshee Elite has the 1500 series too and it comes in a completely different color than the 1500 series that's on the JL-7.


Yeah, the 1000 is available in several colors, and that doesn't change the model name. The 1500 is a different model, with subtle changes, which is also available in different colors. For now, the 1500 seems to be exclusive to schecter. I assume that's a limited time thing.
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it's not listed on the floyd rose site but i'd suspect the number just refers to the colour of the trem- i.e. it's effectively the same as a 1000 series but just a different colour.

the 1000 series ones are made in Korea, the OFR (or FRO, or whatever they call it these days ) is made in Germany. Some people say they're the same, some people don't. Personally I think the German one is a little better,


Floyd Rose says no -- the German and the Korean versions "are made of the same materials and to the same specs". The 1000 series is the version that's handed to large manufacturers (Gibson, Fender, etc.) and the German version is the aftermarket "bubblepack" version for individual purchase and for small builders.
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It's not just a finish or color difference. According to Schecter, it's got more stainless steel, less parts made of nickel, or whatever the 1000 is made of, and it's got a push in trem arm, rather than the screw collar. I've played one. The push in arm is nice. It's supposed to have "retooled knife edges" which should make for, theoretically, smoother trem action. I just ordered a guitar with one. Once I get it, I'll be able to compare with my floyd 1000 guitar.

News to me.
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#9
I have both the 1000 series as well as German OFR (which are made for FR by Schaller but not to be confused with the Schaller branded OFR which are quite different indeed) both are great trems the Korean version is not made with as much attention to detail as the German version the corners are not as defined the screws for locking the string blocks are of a smaller diameter on the 1000 but from my experience it is still a very stable system I have not notice any reall difference in performance between the two.
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I have both the 1000 series as well as German OFR (which are made for FR by Schaller but not to be confused with the Schaller branded OFR which are quite different indeed) both are great trems the Korean version is not made with as much attention to detail as the German version the corners are not as defined the screws for locking the string blocks are of a smaller diameter on the 1000 but from my experience it is still a very stable system I have not notice any reall difference in performance between the two.


So because the screws and string blocks are of a smaller diameter, does that mean you can't swap out a 1000 series for an OFR down the line if you wanted too?
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So because the screws and string blocks are of a smaller diameter, does that mean you can't swap out a 1000 series for an OFR down the line if you wanted too?

those parts wouldn't be interchangeable but the trem itself could be swapped out as a whole unit.
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So because the screws and string blocks are of a smaller diameter, does that mean you can't swap out a 1000 series for an OFR down the line if you wanted too?


I've already swapped out 1000 series for OFRs on a couple of guitars (this was based mostly on a color change, not on anything to do with quality differences; they're functionally identical). Some parts won't interchange, but that's mostly immaterial. They're interchangeable on the guitars.
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I've already swapped out 1000 series for OFRs on a couple of guitars (this was based mostly on a color change, not on anything to do with quality differences; they're functionally identical). Some parts won't interchange, but that's mostly immaterial. They're interchangeable on the guitars.


So, the bridge as a whole is drop-in?
How does it compare with 1500 or 2000 versions?
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So, the bridge as a whole is drop-in?
How does it compare with 1500 or 2000 versions?


Dimensionally the routing will be the same also you should be able to interchange some parts but say you have a bad saddle you would need to change out the saddle/saddle block, and saddle locking screw but an OFR will be a direct retrofit and will drop into the 1000 routing: https://www.floydrose.com/support/faq/1000-series-original

As far as the 1500 or 2000 I dont have any experience with them and do not know the differences.

FWIW as I said before I have had no issues with my 1000 series Floyds.
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So, the bridge as a whole is drop-in?
How does it compare with 1500 or 2000 versions?


I can only compare to the aftermarket (2000?) German-sourced brand -- there are visual cues that can tell you the difference, but I really haven't seen performance differences. Floyd really doesn't intend that there BE performance differences, in fact, and has maintained to me in two separate emails that both are built to identical spec and to the standards set by Floyd Rose (whatever that means).
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Yeah, the 1000 is available in several colors, and that doesn't change the model name. The 1500 is a different model, with subtle changes, which is also available in different colors. For now, the 1500 seems to be exclusive to schecter. I assume that's a limited time thing.


you may be right, I dunno. The number denotes the colour here http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:1000-series-original/original-style but the 1500 doesn't quite follow that naming pattern either, so you may well be correct.

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Floyd Rose says no -- the German and the Korean versions "are made of the same materials and to the same specs". The 1000 series is the version that's handed to large manufacturers (Gibson, Fender, etc.) and the German version is the aftermarket "bubblepack" version for individual purchase and for small builders.


I don't care what floyd says, I have both here and they're not "exactly the same". The 1000 isn't made with as good attention to detail, as Evilnine said. That link I was talking about pointed out the differences, but apparently it's disappeared
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

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you may be right, I dunno. The number denotes the colour here http://www.floydrose.com/catalog/tremolos/6:1000-series-original/original-style but the 1500 doesn't quite follow that naming pattern either, so you may well be correct.


Oh, that? Yeah, those are the catalog numbers. Since they're used for ordering, they have to have a different code for every possible variation, including color. The model name (1000, 1500, 2000, pro) is the advertised one, which only indicates actual design changes, subtle as they may be.
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#18
yeah. is there a 2000 series? i don't see it on the website.
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

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haha no worries
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?