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Let me show you something magical.





Thomann only bought one of each example of a handful of different Strats,Teles and Les Pauls to put in their online store. The one that was listed in the Thomann site is the actual guitar I bought. I bought the Neo Classic LC20. The highest-end Les Paul clone FGN makes.

So was it worth it?



I'll let you decide. It's more fun that way.

1-piece African Mahogany body, non-weight relieved.
1 piece African Mahogany neck.
Long neck tenon
Ebony fretboard.
Mother of pearl & abalone inlays - wherever you see something shiny, it's an inlay.
Gold Gotoh hardware all round
Bone nut.
Seymour Duncan JB/59
22 beautifully levelled and polished Medium frets
D-shaped neck - similar in thickness to a Gibson 60's slimtaper.
Circle Fretting System
Switchcraft & CTS electronics
Acrylic lacquer finish
Made in Fujigen, Japan.

The more I dig deeper into this guitar, the more rewarded I feel. I have looked so carefully over every millimetre of this guitar for a single finish flaw. Not a mark. Not a single whisker of mis-scraped binding. It's weighs in at 9.0lbs, which is pretty good for a non weight relieved body, but still pretty hefty if you've been used to playing a 6.9lb Gibson V. . Though the lack of a maple top does mean it does have a miniscule weight advantage. Probably a couple ounces in fact.

The fret levelling is absolutely pristine. Not a single buzzing fret anywhere to be heard, with a medium action set at the factory. The fret edges, while lack nibs, are almost round like a ball. The frets have been polished to a high gloss. I am more than confident that the guitar will not buzz any significant amount if I lower it.

The circle fretting system concept is one where the fretwires are actually ever so slightly curved. The idea is that because the string spacing of a guitar widens as you go further down the bridge, the strings do not lie exactly perpendicular to the frets if the frets are straight. And this, so FGN say, can cause intonation problems. I can see where FGN are coming from in theory, but in practice I can barely, barely tell they're curved. I have my doubts it makes much difference, but at least it isn't something completely oddball like True Temperament or something.

The neck profile is something I can report I am so relieved about, no pun intended. I was worried that this neck was going to be too thick. But it ain't. It's just about right. It's a slightly U/D shaped carve, very similar in thickness to a Gibson's 60's slimtaper. I played an Epiphone Matt Heafy once and this guitar has a very, very similar neck profile to it. I could not be happier about this. The MKH's profile was exactly what I was looking for in a Les Paul.

I will post more pics after I set the guitar up for my personal preferences & restring, but for now, enjoy some hardcore pornography.



















Interesting caps. They're 0.033uf. No matter, I have some of these.



0.022uf for the bridge and 0.015uf for the neck.

I will post some pictures under the pickups when I set this guitar up for my liking so you can see more under the hood. But for now, this is what I've got.

Would I recommend this guitar? What kind of question is that?
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#2
Super nice! I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I would've expected it to come with a hardcase though.
#3
Yeah that is a bit unfortunate. But I don't consider that a huge deal. I'll definitely buy one for something like this. And also put straplocks on it.
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#4
Wow, they shipped fast......


Congrats on the LC-20


I knew you wont be dissapointed with it

two years ago I've bought my first FGN, the LC-10, it is exactly the one pictured on the thomann website


since then I've bought 4 other FGNs, and I think I'm not yet done....

Last edited by paruwi at Nov 10, 2016,
#6
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nice . how much did the magic cost though?


less than a high gloss Gibby LP Studio..........
#7
Oh, that is a nice axe. LP's are pretty sweet with black and gold.
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#8
Sexy as hell. Nice catch
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#9
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nice . how much did the magic cost though?

About £1400.

Astonishing value.
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#10
That is GORGEOUS and I've never really been too fussed about getting an LP but I think this just convinced me
#11
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About £1400.

Astonishing value.


wow way less than I figured seeing they use African Mahogany
#12
Out.
Damn.
Standing.

Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#13
I had a chance to look under the neck pickup while I restrung and set up. Fretboard needed oiling as well as it was very dry as you can see.



I've given it 10-52's. I redid the setup of the entire guitar. Gave the neck a little more relief, lowered the action significantly and completely readjusted the intonation.

And I know this is really cliche for an LP, but man does this thing sustain. Nigel Tufnel volumes of sustain.



No pickguard because I'm a normie that likes woodorm holes.
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Damn, she's a beauty! You're certainly not helping my Les Paul GAS!

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#16
sweet
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#17
Cutie Pie for sure, Let us know how you like it once you ware the new off of it, After all that's what really counts,
#18
Black and gold with the white binding is beautiful.

Congrats
My God, it's full of stars!
#20


stunning. congrats!
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#21
Sweet guitar dude, play the heck out of it!
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HNGD Rock on!
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#23
Looks supee killer man. Nice score!


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I had a chance to look under the neck pickup while I restrung and set up. Fretboard needed oiling as well as it was very dry as you can see.



I've given it 10-52's. I redid the setup of the entire guitar. Gave the neck a little more relief, lowered the action significantly and completely readjusted the intonation.

And I know this is really cliche for an LP, but man does this thing sustain. Nigel Tufnel volumes of sustain.



No pickguard because I'm a normie that likes woodorm holes.

Les Pauls and Les Paul-style guitars make my heart melt ..
It looks amazing, honestly.
Happy new guitar day!
#27
This thread gives me major GAS. I can tell that's a great quality instrument just by looking at the pics. HNGD
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
#28
I just found out they do a Tele. Forget that thing I said about not having any major gear plans for next year
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#29
That is sweet! I love MIJ guitars and didn't even know these were being made. I am on the wrong side of the big pond I guess
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That is sweet! I love MIJ guitars and didn't even know these were being made. I am on the wrong side of the big pond I guess

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#31
I'm getting over the honeymoon period and got myself properly acquainted with this guitar. I did a more comprehensive review write-up for those interested in these guitars. It should get approved fairly soon. I'm still loving it though, which makes my review look like I'm still on a honeymoon.

But the honest truth is that it's just such a nice guitar.
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https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/fgn/neo_classic_lc20/index.html

Boom.

Here's something else that's pretty cool. This guitar is now back in stock on Thomann and some new pictures have been uploaded to the listing.

Check out the S/N.







Usually thomann takes one guitar for the glamourpics to show

so my LC10 that I've bought two years ago still shows up when you look at thomann.de
and your LC20 will be shown from now on...


it is not like sweetwater does it...

BTW your FGN was made July 2015
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#34
Hey the FGN guitars are supposed to be a secret! I'm still chasing a history GH-T2.

congrats!
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#35
Though the lack of a maple top does mean it does have a miniscule weight advantage. Probably a couple ounces in fact.

I know that the last reply is already 3 months old but I have a question:
Does the FGN LC series really not have a maple top?
The thomann website says that they do. O.o
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I know that the last reply is already 3 months old but I have a question:
Does the FGN LC series really not have a maple top?
The thomann website says that they do. O.o


both Customs, the LC-10 and LC-20 are massive mahogany, no maple-cap - just like it was back in the time
(sind beide bei thomann als 'Mahagoni-Korpus' gelistet)

the LS models have maple caps
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both Customs, the LC-10 and LC-20 are massive mahogany, no maple-cap - just like it was back in the time
(sind beide bei thomann als 'Mahagoni-Korpus' gelistet)

the LS models have maple caps


Oh lol, you are right. I looked at the LS series.
#38
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I know that the last reply is already 3 months old but I have a question: Does the FGN LC series really not have a maple top? The thomann website says that they do. O.o

Mahogany top, as paruwi says. Mahogany tops are more authentic to the 50's LPC's than the Norlin customs that had maple tops.
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#39
which is why a true custom always sounds better, the maple just messes it up.

i kid.

or am i?
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which is why a true custom always sounds better, the maple just messes it up.

i kid.

or am i?

It certainly messes up the look when it relics.

Whenever I see the top of a Custom wear its lacquer away and it's maple underneath, I think of how many pancake slices the body is made from and how much that kills the tone.
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