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#1
Do you get attached to gear that you probably should sell? Is emotional attachment your reason for hanging on to an amp or a guitar or anything, and how do you reconcile the fact that you're keeping all that money tied up in that thing?

I am a guitarist and I have a small home studio. I have a lot of money (around half my net worth) tied up in music gear. I use most of it and thereby have a reason to keep it. But there are some things that don't even have a respectable reason to be in the collection, yet I have the hardest time committing to selling them.

Right now, it's an amp head. It's one of my least liked, and I basically never use it. I probably pull it out once or twice a year, play it enough to remind myself that I don't really like how it sounds, and put it away again. In the rarest of situations I *might* find a way to work it into a recording project, but I'd probably only be doing it to try to justify its place in my collection.

So why am I having such a hard time selling it? We don't have history, the amp and I. We're not old friends. And I can get six hundred bucks for it. I could always go buy another one like it if I decide I made a mistake. So why is it so hard to part with?

Anyone else know this feeling? How do you cope with it? It wasn't nearly as much of a problem when I only had one amp, but now that I keep a collection, I'm constantly battling myself over who to keep and who to sell.

Advice?
#2
This seems very different than a common emotional attachment to a special piece of gear. It sounds like hoarding.
#4
nope no problem here. learned a long time ago that gear is gear and there is likely something "better" for my uses out there. it also depends on what it is. pedals tend to accumulate more than amps or guitar for me. even then I do an occasional purge because sitting in a box in most cases does me no good. actually I have very few things left from my early years of playing left. my brother owns my first distortion pedal so technically it's still around. I have the only chorus pedal I've ever bought and it still does the job on the rare occasions I need one. I still have my Legend Rock and Roll 50 2x12 amp but it needs work so no point in selling until I get it fixed. even then I probably will keep it as it does some nice tones (although i'll need a roadie to carry it as it weighs a ton- solid oak cab will do that). as for guitars my current longest held is only been around for about 9 years. amps other than the Legend 7 years or less.

at this point unless a piece of gear was used on my platinum selling album or something along those lines I wouldn't keep just cuz.
#5
I don't sell my gear. I acknowledge my status as a collector, not a hoarder. There is nothing I own that I dislike- at worst, there is gear I like less than other stuff I own.
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#6
I agree with Roc, it sounds like hoarding to me. I have far more gear than I either need or can justify in any other way, but I have no problem disposing of the stuff that I don't like or that has no sentimental value. The only real sticking point for me is the price I'm likely to get for it in a depressed or specialist market.
#7
I love hoarding
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#8
Emotions are just drugs created by the CNS and spat into your brain. Recognise that and deal with them the same way you'd deal with a drug.
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#9
You do realize that for some, that means "get some more", right?
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#10
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#11
Quote by Roc8995
This seems very different than a common emotional attachment to a special piece of gear. It sounds like hoarding.


Yes, yes it does. But in my state of denial, I call it...uh..."accumulation." Yeah, that's the ticket.
I've sold off maybe two guitars, ever, and that was long ago. It's less an intention than it is a case of neglectfully stuffing the old bit "right over here in case I need it" and piling on some more current stuff. You notice that you're a hoarding idiot just about when you add up the bills for the storage unit. But then you justify it (slightly) when you consider that it's increased in value overall more than your 401(k). Like the 401(k), however, it's not really valuable unless you pull the money out of it.

OTOH, there's very little of it that I really DON'T like -- I'd probably have swapped it out long ago.
#12
I think the key point here is wether you actually like the piece of gear or not. I mean, I don't play everything I have on a regular basis, but I like everything I have. I've got stuff that I keep just because I want it there when I need it. I've sold off gear only to buy something similar at a later point, so I try to keep as much gear that I like as possible.

Anything I don't like, however, gets sold off almost immediately. For instance, I'd still like to get a good Les Paul. I had a Classic for a month, didn't like it and sold it off. I could've kept it and kind of miss having a Les Paul, however, what good would it've done me since I didn't like it.
#13
Things i dont use much, and take up lots of space, get sold of pretty quickly. Same with gear that i really dont like. I only keep a few pedals that i dont use, simply because im to lazy to post them online and deal with shipping, and then get like 30€ for the whole lot. I do keep a spare cab in case the main one dies on me, but thats pretty much it. Never really understood people who are "attached" to their gear emotionaly.
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#14
Hoarding is quite relative term...
There's nothing wrong with emotional attachment to gear.
I collect Rocktron USA rack gear. And I'm very attached to all of them. I don't even use some of it, and have no plans to sell.
My emotional attachment is being able to have the gear I wanted in the 80's and 90's, because I can now afford these pieces, which were previously out of my financial reach.
And gear is worth $$$. Look at it as investment. Not like having stacks of newspapers to the ceiling...
Hoard away my friend. Don't give a sh*t about any negativity, as long as you're not breaking your bank to collect gear.
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#15
it's worth $600 and you don't like it? sell it. buy something you actually like to use.
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#16
Quote by gregs1020
it's worth $600 and you don't like it? sell it. buy something you actually like to use.

Seems like a no brainer.

This is textbook hoarding. Emotional attachment is something entirely different. It's one thing if you can't get rid of that shitty strat copy because it was a gift from your deceased grandfather or something. There is no emotional attachment here.
#17
I consider "emotional attachment" as relative as "hoarding".
I could develop and emotional attachment to a pair of socks, cus they're so cozy and make me feel warm and happy.
At the end of the day, there's worse things one could "hoard", than musical equipment..
#18
Quote by dannyalcatraz
I don't sell my gear. I acknowledge my status as a collector, not a hoarder. There is nothing I own that I dislike- at worst, there is gear I like less than other stuff I own.
Quote by Tony Done
I agree with Roc, it sounds like hoarding to me. I have far more gear than I either need or can justify in any other way, but I have no problem disposing of the stuff that I don't like or that has no sentimental value. The only real sticking point for me is the price I'm likely to get for it in a depressed or specialist market.


i'm sort of a mixture of these two. I sell very little, but if i actually do dislike something I don't normally have much problem getting rid of it, either (like my marshall avt).

another thing is the bother of selling the thing versus how much you'd get back. i mean, i have a bunch of joyo pedals that I don't really need and i doubt i'd miss, but the bother of selling the thing versus what i'd get back (£10? If I'm lucky ) kind of puts me off.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#19
Yes, yes it does. But in my state of denial, I call it...uh..."accumulation." Yeah, that's the ticket.
I've sold off maybe two guitars, ever, and that was long ago. It's less an intention than it is a case of neglectfully stuffing the old bit "right over here in case I need it" and piling on some more current stuff. You notice that you're a hoarding idiot just about when you add up the bills for the storage unit. But then you justify it (slightly) when you consider that it's increased in value overall more than your 401(k). Like the 401(k), however, it's not really valuable unless you pull the money out of it.

getting an idea for a new show......GEAR HOARDERS. ever see that reality show Hoarders where they go into peoples houses that are just stuffed full of shit to the point you can't get around.? well now we can do a gear version of it. . it's funny my wife is a total neat freak but she watches that show. she also assures me that if she left the apt for more than a week it would look like that cuz I'm a collector. and yes I need over 50 different godzillas cuz ya know they are all different. not to her of course. I have a fair bit of gear myself and she doesn't get it either.
#20
if you flip something and miss it later, you can always buy another one. i've done it two or three times now.
Why don't they make mouse flavored cat food?
#21
Quote by gregs1020
if you flip something and miss it later, you can always buy another one. i've done it two or three times now.


only works if recent or you don't care what it costs to replace . I've let go of a couple of things over the years that weren't worth much back then but would cost a fair bit now to replace. Supro Dual-Tone guitar bought for 20 bucks at flea market in late 79 now well over $1000 in same shape now. BC Rich Mockingbird from 1980 paid like $400 back then can't even find the same color now or afford it if I could. also had a first year Fender Concert 4x10 amp In beautiful shape which again I doubt I could afford now.
#22
It depends on how serious a musician you are and how much you like the instrument. I try to limit myself to an acoustic and an electric. If I want a new one, I have to sell an old one first. Otherwise, I have 5 decent guitars instead of 2 nice ones that I really like.
#23
Quote by gregs1020
if you flip something and miss it later, you can always buy another one. i've done it two or three times now.


Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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#24
dannyalcatraz

monwobobbo actually the concerts are selling pretty low compared to the rest. and good point, i probably won't find another '72 Marshall 50 watt head for $175 either.
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#25
I'm really glad I came here to ask this question, you feller's responses are exactly the sort of discussion I was looking for. Reading them has helped me out.

I hadn't even thought of hoarding, that's definitely a way to look at it. I don't hoard anything else, and I'm not breaking the bank or taking up too much space, and the items I buy I always make sure to spend only as much (or less) than I think I can get for it later. If I honestly don't like a piece of gear I have no issue parting with it, but in the case of amps, if it's a good amp that I just don't need or only serves as an oddball in the collection for the occasional tinkering, I get an attachment to it if I spend real time with it regardless.

I think hoarding includes a connotation of negativity that goes along with spending too much money on things, taking up too much space, or attaching unrealistic expectations of the item's usability. None of these are case here. I just like the amp, even though it kind of sucks. Like a retarded little brother.

dannyalcatraz' picture comment kind of sums up the feeling. Yeah I could get another one if I decide a made a mistake selling it, but I don't wanna. lol

I really like monwobobbo's idea of Gear Hoarders. It's definitely a thing and I would watch. I don't even watch TV but I'd watch that. Sounds like I show I'd talk to the TV over.

Anywho, I've put the amp up for sale. Part of me hopes it won't sell. But I think it's best if it does.

There's another one on the chopping block as well, this one because I have another in the same series. It's a Peavey 6505 2x12 combo. I have a 5150II head, and that's my main heavy sounds amp. I just can't justify hanging on to the combo, even though I love the damn thing. Won't use it live (too heavy/cumbersome) and won't record with it (using a head in the control room with a cab in the sound room is way easier) and the sound is subtly different but not enough to justify leaving a few hundred tied up in it. So, I'm parting with that one too.
#26
clean house brother. cash is better than gear you don't/won't use.
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#27
Maromasqu...let us know when you start cleaning house, eh?
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
#29
Quote by Diatribes
Is this guy a hoarder?



That's Xavier Piglington, noted Steve Vai impersonator/con artist. You can tell because there is 1) a conspicuous absence of Carvin Vai Legacy amps (he hates them) and there no wind blowing in his face. Vai ALWAYS has wind blowing in his face. All those guitars on the wall are cheap copies from AliExpress.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
#30
dannyalcatraz
That picture was taken from Guitar World article about Vai sharing his private collection.....
#31
Besides, hoarding isn't about having lots of stuff. It's an obsessive/compulsive disorder that prevents people from getting rid of things that are trash or otherwise not needed by them because of belief that they'll "need it someday"; it's "valuable" or other misperceptions, leading to accumulation.

If you have lots stuff that you don't want to sell, that's ok. If you have lots of stuff that you don't want but CAN'T sell (or otherwise dispose of), that's potentially a problem.

You've stated you don't like the amp's sound and you have no sentimental reasons for keeping it. There's even companies out there that will help you ditch it, including one with an amazingly on the nose commercial...

Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
#32
Diatribes
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
#34
Less a cynic, more of a smartass.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!


alhaq369
It is very impotent to success a business.
#37
Quote by dannyalcatraz

You've stated you don't like the amp's sound and you have no sentimental reasons for keeping it. There's even companies out there that will help you ditch it, including one with an amazingly on the nose commercial...


I'd always be interested to see if the people behind those companies get rid of their own stuff so easily... it's a lot easier to glibly tell other people that their stuff is useless than to do the same to your own stuff...
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#38
I keep my gear for the most part but will let go of some to get something I want more as long as I'm not losing too much of my investment.
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#40
JAHellraiser
Your first point is valid. Although I'm sure there's "functional" hoarders, that are "professionals" at what they do. celebrity status negates being a hoarder?
Your other two points are purely hypothetical.
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