#1
Debating on what to get, i want something for playing at home and will be good enough for gigs. A little hesitant about getting the stack because i heard you have to crank to get good distortion. (I got a wife). Any input?
#2
The big thing is open vs closed back speaker cab. Which do you prefer?

I'd personally go with a half stack plus a re-amper so I could get the tubes cooking at low volumes.
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i'm not sure there's going to be much difference in volume between the combo and the stack if that's what you're worried about.
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Here are 3:
Bad Cat Unleash
Freyette Power Station
Ultimate

A re-amper is like an attenuator that goes between the amp and speaker, but re-ampers tend to not kill the sound quality like attenuators when you attenuate a loud amp (50 or 100W) down to TV volume levels.
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combo will be fine. unless you are playing big outdoor gig or in a huge hall no need for a stack (or even a half stack) combo mic'd into PA will do the trick. they are a master volume amp so you can get plenty of distortion without cranking the volume. I use a 50 watt tube combo for practice at home, wife hasn't killed me yet. I use a 60 wat 2x12 combo for live but could easily use the 50 watt 1x12. sure stacks are more fun and it's great to plug in and crank one but these days they just aren't necessary
#8
I think you'll have to crank either the combo or the stack to get the tone you're looking for and either one will be loud as shit in your living room.

If you want a Marshall tone go for a newer model that gets close to the sound in the preamp so you don't have to crank up the power section (as much). Perhaps the DSL line?
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#9
Both the combo and the stack will be very loud - I used to own a combo that got the cops called on me a couple of times!

It comes down to whether you like an open or closed back cab, really. But I recommend picking up an attenuator, and/or an overdrive pedal for a boost, if you want a good dirty tone at more manageable volumes.

Also, be aware that 2-channel JCM 800's sound fairly different than the single channel versions. The 2-channel versions have more gain on tap, but some (myself included) feel that it is a less "natural" sounding distortion tone. The voicing is a bit more modern as well.
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diabolical they're the same thing...
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diabolical they're the same thing...

at the end of the day they accomplish the same thing by getting a "cranked up volume" tone at lower volumes. but a soak and re-amping are two different things.
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Reamper doesn't get lower volume, it is a device used to convert line signal back to guitar signal for the purpose of recording. The idea is to have the option to change guitar tones by using different amps on a recording.
http://www.radialeng.com/r2011/jcr.php

Power attenuator or soak throttles down a tube amp volume after the transformer output, thus acting as volume control.

Totally different concept and tool.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_attenuator_(guitar)
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Someone confused reamper with power soak


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Reamper doesn't get lower volume, it is a device used to convert line signal back to guitar signal for the purpose of recording. The idea is to have the option to change guitar tones by using different amps on a recording.
http://www.radialeng.com/r2011/jcr.php

Power attenuator or soak throttles down a tube amp volume after the transformer output, thus acting as volume control.

Totally different concept and tool.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_attenuator_(guitar)


+1 that reminds me i need to pick up one.

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I find very little use of attenuators, for NMV amp, yeah on a recording, but they are not as practical as people tend to think they are.

reampers are awesome though.
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Quote by diabolical
Reamper doesn't get lower volume, it is a device used to convert line signal back to guitar signal for the purpose of recording. The idea is to have the option to change guitar tones by using different amps on a recording.
http://www.radialeng.com/r2011/jcr.php

Power attenuator or soak throttles down a tube amp volume after the transformer output, thus acting as volume control.

Totally different concept and tool.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_attenuator_(guitar)


Yes, that is the traditional definition of re-amper, yet the world is changing and there are several products on the market (Unleash, PS, Ultimate) that attenuate amp outputs yet are called re-ampers by both the vendors and hundreds of people in forums.

You are going to have a difficult time in life holding on to outdated definitions.
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Yes, that is the traditional definition of re-amper, yet the world is changing and there are several products on the market (Unleash, PS, Ultimate) that attenuate amp outputs yet are called re-ampers by both the vendors and hundreds of people in forums.

You are going to have a difficult time in life holding on to outdated definitions.




attenuator to me implies it takes load. some attenuators have a DI out, etc.

If you want it all i would recommend going all out for it, get something from 2 Notes like the Torpedo CAB/studio/etc. they IMO are at the cutting edge at the moment. but it falls somewhere between all of the other stuff.
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