#1
ok, so i have been playing for not very long, but i know one thing for sure: alternate picking sucks

i spent about an hour learning my first metallica song, and after learning the verses etc, i learned about ALTERNATE PICKING.

so i decided to relearn the song again while alternate picking, and i struggled like a fish climbing a tree.

does alternative picking really matter? im extremely comfortable and can play downstrokes consistently.
also can anyone show me some other picking patterns, which i'm sure there are.

thank you
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Alternate picking definitely matters. Metallica may just be one of the few bands where you can play the rhythm without it

Of course that's not even always true, try to play the heavy bits of "One" without it and you'll likely struggle.

If you want to keep playing guitar, you're going to have to work on it. It definitely takes a while, I remember when I first started it took me a long to get comfortable with it, I've been playing for 10 years and I'm still not as fast as I'd like!

As far as other picking patterns, I'm not sure what you mean. There are things like triplets and gallops (which can be heard in lots of types of metal), quadruplets, etc. but they all require alternate picking, which reiterates how important it is. It is, and I hate to sound like a schoolteacher, fundamental.
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#4
FWIW James Hetfield seldom uses alternate picking as he prefers the percussive sound of down picking.
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I didn't say he never alternate picks but not vey often. I was only stating what I read/heard James say in interviews.

"It was always a kind of contest – who could down-pick the fastest – and mostly it was a battle between me and Lars, actually. It's a hard thing to do well, because your timing has got to be dead on.

"If you're playing eighth or sixteenth notes then you've got to get cooking. A lot of practice is called for to build up your strength. A lot of wanking too!" -Hetfield

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#9
Dude I haven't used a pick in over 20 years, Hell I don't even know what my fingers are doing 90% of the time. they have a mind of they're own. My brain just says Yea that's cool, just keep doing what your doing and lets see if we cant make the vocal cords do they're job, Dude you've been drinking again! Oh crap this should be interesting.
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does alternative picking really matter?


Yes, it's pretty much the most useful picking technique there is. This doesn't mean that you should only alt pick, but if you want to become even a half decent guitarist you do need to know how to do it properly, or no one will really take you seriously.
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ok, i will practice alt picking, but can anyone name any more guitarists who dont alt pick? it was amazing to know james doesnt like to.
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ok, i will practice alt picking, but can anyone name any more guitarists who dont alt pick? it was amazing to know james doesnt like to.

There's a massive difference between making a stylistic choice to use a certain technique and simply not knowing how to. Hetfield favours downstrokes for his rhythm parts for the sound he gets from them, but that doesn't mean he couldn't alternate pick them if he wanted to. There are NO guitarists who don't alternate pick, it's a basic, fundamental skill.

It's like learning to drive, but never learning to turn right and using the fact NASCAR drivers never turn right as an excuse. Sure their races are all counterclockwise, but they already had to be bloody good drivers in the first place to get to that level!
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There's a massive difference between making a stylistic choice to use a certain technique and simply not knowing how to. Hetfield favours downstrokes for his rhythm parts for the sound he gets from them, but that doesn't mean he couldn't alternate pick them if he wanted to. There are NO guitarists who don't alternate pick, it's a basic, fundamental skill.

It's like learning to drive, but never learning to turn right and using the fact NASCAR drivers never turn right as an excuse. Sure their races are all counterclockwise, but they already had to be bloody good drivers in the first place to get to that level!

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To answers your question yes/no gypse jazz guitarist can simple out shred or out pick a standard guitarist while maintaining clear sound since the majority are know for deadly downstrokes

But yes it's kinda standard for guitarists to practice and less stress when it becomes natural when string hopping chords or solos
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To answers your question yes/no gypse jazz guitarist can simple out shred or out pick a standard guitarist while maintaining clear sound since the majority are know for deadly downstrokes


I'd say this is more a quirk of jazz phrasing, favoring legato into the strong beats. Not quite the same as metal downpicking. Also I tend to use upstrokes when I'm doing legato-heavy jazz lines, since I'm picking almost exclusively on the weak beats. But I don't play gypsy.