#1
What's up sk8ers, long time no see. I used to always post debate threads here and haven't posted in forever, so thought I'd post here for old time sake. Missed you guys.

I was giving a guitar lesson to a student of mine who goes to an all-girl high school. She was telling me there's been a little minor controversy, because some there's a couple students there who have decided that they want to be considered boys, not girls. So there's kind of an issue there. On the one hand, it seems silly to kick them out because they're transgender, and the school's goal should be to educate and help their students succeed, not kick them out. On the other hand, it's an all girl school, boys are not allowed to enroll, and if they demand to be treated as such, you could say they should face the consequences. You could even argue that by not kicking them out, they are not seriously recognizing their transition from a female to a male.

What do y'all think?
#2
Is the school's policy based on the students' biology, or their gender?

I mean not all trans folk literally want to change their biology. On that alone they could make an argument for keeping the students on. Or they could not be, well, children, and get rid of these weird segregated schools
#4
Why are there all-girl schools tho.
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#6
A great deal of transgender kids grow out of it so I don't think it's particularly wise to let them make such official changes at that point in their lives. And an all boys school is going to be a pretty horrible place for a biological female. I'd say the school should agree to refer to them as 'he' but go no further.
#7
Tbh I think the fact we still have single sex schools is the bigger problem here
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#13
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#15
Transgenders need to go to psyche wards, not public schools.
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#21
I have no idea what the right call here is lmao

Should they let in dudes that want to be grils? idk
#22
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What's up sk8ers, long time no see. I used to always post debate threads here and haven't posted in forever, so thought I'd post here for old time sake. Missed you guys.

I was giving a guitar lesson to a student of mine who goes to an all-girl high school. She was telling me there's been a little minor controversy, because some there's a couple students there who have decided that they want to be considered boys, not girls. So there's kind of an issue there. On the one hand, it seems silly to kick them out because they're transgender, and the school's goal should be to educate and help their students succeed, not kick them out. On the other hand, it's an all girl school, boys are not allowed to enroll, and if they demand to be treated as such, you could say they should face the consequences. You could even argue that by not kicking them out, they are not seriously recognizing their transition from a female to a male.

What do y'all think?


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#24
Its obviously going to cause problems either way, the best answer is to work with the kids and try to cause them the least amount of emotional strife.

Or getting rid of the single sex system entirely. Either way.

This might seem like a non-answer but really the school shouldnt be the one making the desicison on what gender the students are. The students can work with the parents on what their proper placement is and the school shouldnt have a rigid policy. Wishful thinking I know.
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#25
Really what we need to do is just start handing out free therapy for life cards for anyone thats transgender because if theyre born into 94% of families in this world theyre gonna need it
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Should they let in dudes that want to be grils? idk


Only if they want to be propane grills. None of that charcoal nonsense.

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Tbh I think the fact we still have single sex schools is the bigger problem here


yeah how dare they perform consistently higher than mixed-sex schools


OT: kick 'em out


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#29
Hi Madcap

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Why are there all-girl schools tho.
because people want to go to them because the schools usually perform better than public schools.
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#30
If they want to identify as male, then the school has the right to follow their rules and not have male students.

They should get transferred to a mixed school, as an all boys school will pose problems.
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#31
just lol at being 1 gender in 2016
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#33
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Why are there all-girl schools tho.


Yeah, seems that by trying to force this kind of thing (all-girl schools, all-boy schools) you are gonna find some problems in these situations.

Anyways, let the student and his parents decide. If I was the school I'd also let them have a 3-month-trial or something and after it let them decide again if he wants to stay or not. Also have some talks and chats with the girls in there every week or so to see how they feel about it too.
It's not that big of a deal, just try to make the experience as best as possible for everybody involved.

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because people want to go to them because the schools usually perform better than public schools.


Does the school itself perform better or do the students that go to it perform better? If it's the latter ... then it just means it's a good school. I presume there are plenty of good mixed schools in the US.
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