#1
I am looking to buy either a peavey vip 2 or a katana boss amp and I mostly play avenged sevenfold and three days grace. Bands like that. People suggested that I go to a guitar center and try each out but the thing is I'm an okay guitar player. But not great and every time I go to one there are people that are freaking soloing and doing crazy shit. I am just a little self-concious about my guitar skills and wouldn't want to play in front of people. What should I do?
#2
Quote by gu1tarn00b
I am looking to buy either a peavey vip 2 or a katana boss amp and I mostly play avenged sevenfold and three days grace. Bands like that. People suggested that I go to a guitar center and try each out but the thing is I'm an okay guitar player. But not great and every time I go to one there are people that are freaking soloing and doing crazy shit. I am just a little self-concious about my guitar skills and wouldn't want to play in front of people. What should I do?
Don't worry about it. Most of the kids there are not doing serious critical analysis of the amps but just trying to show off (and usually doing a pretty bad job of it). Just go there, play stuff that helps demonstrate the equipment to you- be simple. You don't have to make the GC employees worship you to buy gear. If an employee tries to force an item on you, just decline.

Your choices in amps (not necessarily bad but not necessarily good) do show the kind of amp market you are looking into, for better or for worse. If you answer these questions we might could help you out in choosing something more worthwhile and inspiring for you.

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#3
Do you have any tips of what would help demonstrate them. Should I just Play stuff that I normally play? Like a a7x song I already know?
#4
Well unfortunately, if you want to demo amps there's really not a much better way than going to the store. I'd recommend just playing the stuff you are comfortable playing, don't worry about showing off. The folks that go and hang out all day at Guitar Center to show off their sweet licks aren't making it as professionals anyway, so it's not like they have a leg to stand on in judging you.

If I'm demoing amps, I'll typically pluck out a few simple riffs to see how the amp handles that sort of thing, then I'll hold a few notes out to see how it does with sustain and such, try all the channels this way, and that's that. Don't worry about all the "rockstars," most of them are there to inflate their own egos.
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#6
suck it up buttercup. Seriously who cares, are you going to see these people again? You aren't there to perform for people so don't feel like you have to, guitar center doesn't care, they just want your money. Everybody is at different levels of playing ability, even shred master mcshredderson - who spends all day at GC to show off once sucked at guitar and still needed to try out gear.
#7
Just remember, every single guitarist in that store has been at your skill level, or will be, at one point during their guitarist life. Nothing to be ashamed about.
#8
Quote by gu1tarn00b
Do you have any tips of what would help demonstrate them. Should I just Play stuff that I normally play? Like a a7x song I already know?


Play what you need to play so that you can get a good idea of the amp you want to buy and if it can do the things you want it to do. You play A7X and metal stuff so try that. Like people say, you're not there to impress so don't worry about what other people are playing. Just keep it simple and get a good idea of the sound because that's why you're trying out the amp in the first place.
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#9
you won't get used to playing in front of others until you start doing it. as has been said don't sweat it. sure there will always be "that guy" you know the one the blazes perfectly then plays some sweet blues riff but keep in mind that the rest are just that the rest and probably no better than you.

as for testing an amp yes play what you know but be sure to check out features as well. clean channel, dirt channel fx in the case of a modeler. be sure you like what you hear (but be reasonable with your expectations) .
#10
okay, thank you guys I'll just go ahead and try some out. But seriously, thanks. I expected nothing but comments saying rude' stuff but really didn't get any. I'm going to go try them out but I'm also curious in if you guys have an opinion to which amp you would prefer.
#11
haven't even seen the new Boss Katana so can't comment on that. the Peavey seems like it would be ideal for what you want though. oh and we're nice folks here. we've all been a new player and cringed at the thought of playing in front of others especially at a place like GC.
#12
I'll take it one farther than monwobobbo , when I first joined a band I was so nervous during the audition I actually went to GC afterwards just to calm down and get used to playing in front of people (band mates ) , who gives a F*#K about who's in GC after all ?? lol ... and yes I'm still in the Band
#13
gu1tarn00b

1) check if you can rent the amp for a day, if not
2) check if you can buy it and return it - sometimes they will only charge a small re-stocking fee.

Testing an amp in the store doesn't cut it - you need to spend time in your own listening environment to really judge and amp properly
#14
reverb66

normally I'd agree but he's a new player so this may not apply. I can usually get an idea of whether I like an amp or not at the store. if it doesn't cut it there the not likely to change my mind at home. at store can be good as it isn't much different from a crappy venue that you may end up playing.
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Quote by gu1tarn00b
I am looking to buy either a peavey vip 2 or a katana boss amp and I mostly play avenged sevenfold and three days grace. Bands like that. People suggested that I go to a guitar center and try each out but the thing is I'm an okay guitar player. But not great and every time I go to one there are people that are freaking soloing and doing crazy shit. I am just a little self-concious about my guitar skills and wouldn't want to play in front of people. What should I do?


That's only because whipping your dick out and jerking off on everyone is illegal.

I was the same way dude, now, I don't give a shit. You're not playing guitar for them. You're playing for you. Get in there and go try out your soon-to-be-next-amp!!!
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#16
Man, don't worry about what other people think. You're learning. You're going to be sub par at first. The workers will be more than happy to help you out. They even have a lessons department that offer free lessons on special weekends. Most of the time the people testing don't know what they are doing either and only play what they know to get a head turn or 2.
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#17
Always try to keep in mind- "I'm here to test the gear, not to impress anyone." It's true, and sometimes it helps, though it is easier said than done, too.

I know I was trying out some acoustics recently (i'm much more an electric player) and I was pretty shy and nervous. Also it depends on how nice the shop staff is as well, some nice ones will put you totally at east, but some can be dicks. A lot of it is just luck unfortunately.
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#18
Dont worry about these armchair retail rockstars, everyones a critic. Just take comfort in the fact that grown adults get paid millions to get up on stages across the world, dressed as teenagers to play 3 chords in front of millions of screaming fans. Im getting off topic, been binging on too much rig rundown. It kinda ties in to my point, which is: Even famous people with all the options dont need to be the most talented in order to enjoy gear. Youre there to evaluate whatever gear youre looking at, just enjoy yourself.
#19
i haven't had stage freight before, but that is me (everybody is different).

but you should watch me hold onto an escalator in a store. things fucking freak me out. i take the stairs. lol.

but i think that there are a few different approaches to something at GC. if i am demoing and amp, i will typically bring a guitar. i will play some familiar riffs, and test how it responds, play, tweak, test. and repeat. i test the amp, NOT myself. i will try different settings at different volumes, but just repeat some diagnostic riffs and see how it responds. i don't show off. i check out the amp.

the BEST thing in this thread (hasn't been quoted yet and have no idea why), is what esky15 said.

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#20
plug it in and turn it to 10 if they don't like it they will leave
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if i am demoing and amp, i will typically bring a guitar.

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This is a great point - if you're going to be shopping for any gear, amps pedals etc. - bring your guitar to the store.
#22
^ problem is if you're shopping for pedals you'd really want to try them with your amp too, and that gets kind of awkward to carry.

and that's assuming you only have one amp and one guitar
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#23
Biggest thing to remember is that you're actually there to 'purchase' something. Most of the folks doing all the fretboard wanking are there to just play around with stuff and show-off - or trying to show-off.

You don't need to go in there and put on a performance. Simple licks, simple riffs, simple... simple. You're there to do an investigation and evaluation of the equipment whether it be a guitar, pedal, amp, or whatever. You're contemplating spending your hard earned money, no need to wank off in public. I do all that annoying sh*t like going up and down the fretboard on a guitar note by note looking for buzz and rough fret edges, seeing if things look/feel level. I'm creeping in back of the amps to see how much dust is in there, what kind of tubes are visible, and so forth. If I'm going to drop coin I want to check for dead spots or buzz on guitars, I want to make sure that everything on an amp is operating smoothly, that the tubes are glowing properly, and nothing is running excessively hot, I want to make sure knobs aren't scratchy, etc. I want to see how much variation I can get from an amps eq. I'm not spending time performing, I'm tweaking, twisting, examining. And that's what you need to do too.

Not properly demoing equipment is like deciding to date a chick just because she has big jugs... only to later find out that her personality sucks and her favorite movie is "high school musical'. She may look impressive at first glance... but, not so much down the line where it really matters.
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#24
ThunderPunk
Though with the shop's return policy swapping out the gear may be way easier than swapping out the girl!!!
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#25
ThunderPunk

if her jugs are big enough she doesn't need a personality and no one will care if High School Musical is her fav movie. just sayin . most woman have crap taste in movies anyways.
#26
gu1tarn00b

I can empathize. I'm still the same way, more or less, after decades of playing instruments. I'm profoundly uncomfortable playing in front of others.* But I have found that if I kinda look floorward and focus on the gear I'm testing, the others around me start to fade into the background.


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#27
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Well unfortunately, if you want to demo amps there's really not a much better way than going to the store. I'd recommend just playing the stuff you are comfortable playing, don't worry about showing off. The folks that go and hang out all day at Guitar Center to show off their sweet licks aren't making it as professionals anyway, so it's not like they have a leg to stand on in judging you.

If I'm demoing amps, I'll typically pluck out a few simple riffs to see how the amp handles that sort of thing, then I'll hold a few notes out to see how it does with sustain and such, try all the channels this way, and that's that. Don't worry about all the "rockstars," most of them are there to inflate their own egos.



Yup.
I suck in the grand scheme of things. That said, a few riffs and just listening to what the amp does with it is the goal. What is the amp going to do for you? I enjoy a hands on test of stuff. Everybody has an opinion and can advise you, but without your own research, it won't do you any good. The Fender Blues Jr, for example is a good amp, but with what I do, it's not the best option. You can get an idea of what to aim for, but only checking it out yourself.

1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3 on the low B on a 7-string (or something similar, think Korn) is one riff I use along with the chorus for Incubus "Pardon Me", as I go in with the assumption stuff is E standard.
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#28
Went to Sam Ash music to try out a b52 412 cab did basic things i play to test the thing out made shure it had good bass harmonics and good tone I do not care who is better or worse then me at guitar. Im giving them my money so I check it out and even turn it up.Try different amp out its mostly marketing hype out there if your ears like it buy it. You can get a decent halfstack for what your paying for a combo amp. Read lots on the subject Small amps roland cube yamaha thr kicks ass you want a 412 cab and a decent head 200 you can get one they have the tone you need good bass response ive tried and had lots of combos just couldnt get the bass out of the thing look for hamonics tone scooped mids take your time rock on