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#1
So I got a '03 schecter C-1 Artist from guitar center for a steal at only $180. With being 13 years old it's got its fair share of buckle rash and what not, which doesn't bother me. But I noticed when I got it, cause I bought it off line, that the neck where the binding is at has these thin cracks in the paint on both sides of the neck from the nut to about the 3rd fret. Is this just blemish cracks or are my fears correct that the fret board might be separating from the neck? It plays great, no real fret buzz, and the neck is pretty straight. but the cracks worry me
#6
Hard to tell in a picture. Can you feel it? Is the crack deep?
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#11
Of course. But I'm wondering if it's worth the fix. I just got it a couple days ago and guitar center as their 45 day return policy so I could always get my money back and get something else
#12
If it is separation, it is certainly fixable, but I would be wanting to know if it is cost effective. That is does "price + fix" still look good. There are also intangibles, for example, how much you like that particular guitar, or whether the whole deal now leaves you feeling dissatisfied.
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Of course. But I'm wondering if it's worth the fix. I just got it a couple days ago and guitar center as their 45 day return policy so I could always get my money back and get something else


Do it. Even if its just a crack in the finish, id take it back.
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#14
Yeah I'd definitely take that back... I'd imagine that even if you could get a repair for a reasonable price, you'd no longer be in the "good deal" territory, but rather the very average deal territory, if not the shitty deal territory of pricing.
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#15
take it back for sure.
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#16
Absolutely take it back.

Even if that was repaired and made structurally sound again, repairing the damage to the guitar's finish on top of that, you might be looking at spending as much on repairs as what you paid for the whole guitar.
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If it is separation, it is certainly fixable, but I would be wanting to know if it is cost effective. That is does "price + fix" still look good. There are also intangibles, for example, how much you like that particular guitar, or whether the whole deal now leaves you feeling dissatisfied.


Well I do love the look of the guitar, the binding and the inlays especially. And it came with a JB/59 set stock so it needs no upgrades. But between this fretboard crap and all the buckle rash on the back I'm starting to rethink this. thanks for the help guy
#18
Is it cracked on both sides? Also get a small needle and see how far you can push in.

For all we know it's a finish crack.
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#21
Take it back it's not like used Schecters are hard to find or expensive that guitar was only $180 for that reason if I had to guess and knowing how GC operates they probably paid $75-$90 tops for it.

It has a meaty volute looks like the headstock may have hit the floor at one time or another and the volute saved it from snapping off so the trauma manifest itself in fretboard separation.
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#22
Return it but have a replacement picked out and try to negotiate a good deal on the replacement.
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#23
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Do it. Even if its just a crack in the finish, id take it back.


yep if it's within warranty all the other possible solutions are kind of academic, if you ask me- that's one of the reasons you buy from a store, so you have comeback if something goes wrong. Something has gone wrong- so take it back.
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yep if it's within warranty all the other possible solutions are kind of academic, if you ask me- that's one of the reasons you buy from a store, so you have comeback if something goes wrong. Something has gone wrong- so take it back.


Yeah like why bother with a somewhat major fix that you'll have to pay for out of pocket if you can still return or exchange it?
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#25
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And I could see the fretboard separate when I pushed the needle in. Well guess I'll be returning it


There you go, you know now.
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Of course. But I'm wondering if it's worth the fix. I just got it a couple days ago and guitar center as their 45 day return policy so I could always get my money back and get something else


Take it back.
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Yeah I'm gonna take it to guitar center tomorrow so that they can refund me my money. I came across a C-1 Platinum that has a EMG-81/85 set in it on Craigslist that a guy is willing to sell for $250 so as long as it's in the condition he says it's in, which is like new because he bought it brand new and never really played it, then I'm getting it
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Yeah I'm gonna take it to guitar center tomorrow so that they can refund me my money. I came across a C-1 Platinum that has a EMG-81/85 set in it on Craigslist that a guy is willing to sell for $250 so as long as it's in the condition he says it's in, which is like new because he bought it brand new and never really played it, then I'm getting it


Good choice. And I would hope that a used C-1 Platinum is in like new condition, as they've only been out for less than a year. Unless it's the Damien Platinum, with the bat inlays. Those have been around much longer.
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#30
Nope. It's got some weird cross looking thing on the 12th fret and off set dots on the rest of the board. And the truss rod cover clearly says "C-1 Platinum"
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Yeah like why bother with a somewhat major fix that you'll have to pay for out of pocket if you can still return or exchange it?


yeah definitely. I know not so much in this thread, but at other times (maybe even on other forums) i've seen people tell people (when something is still inside the warranty period) to do a whole pile of troubleshooting, and even to attempt fixes, and if you ask me that's terrible advice- you can often void your warranty attempting to fix it yourself, and if the problem ends up being more serious than initially suspected by those trying to "help", you're SOL. If you ask me that's pretty cavalier of those who are trying to "help", and just poor form.

Don't get me wrong- obviously you should check some basic stuff to be sure that user error isn't the problem, but that's the kind of stuff which can be safely and easily checked without voiding your warrany.
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yeah definitely. I know not so much in this thread, but at other times (maybe even on other forums) i've seen people tell people (when something is still inside the warranty period) to do a whole pile of troubleshooting, and even to attempt fixes, and if you ask me that's terrible advice- you can often void your warranty attempting to fix it yourself, and if the problem ends up being more serious than initially suspected by those trying to "help", you're SOL. If you ask me that's pretty cavalier of those who are trying to "help", and just poor form.

Don't get me wrong- obviously you should check some basic stuff to be sure that user error isn't the problem, but that's the kind of stuff which can be safely and easily checked without voiding your warrany.


Warranty work should always be first if its possible and this is coming from a guy that DIYs all the time. DIY is supposed to save you money at the end of the day, not make you pay for a repair out of pocket that could've been covered.


There is a time and a place for it, but for this particular situation? Not a chance.
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#33
Exactly. I know i'm not much good at DIY, but as you said, even if it's one of your main hobbies (or even your job) and you're really good at it, there's a time and a place for it- generally if you're already outside warranty and you'll have to pay for repairs anyway (though you still want to be careful that you don't break the thing worse and turn a minor fault which could be cheaply fixed into a major and expensive repair ).
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#35
Good on you mate. Hope it all work out ok too.
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#36
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Nope. It's got some weird cross looking thing on the 12th fret and off set dots on the rest of the board. And the truss rod cover clearly says "C-1 Platinum"


Nice. Yeah, those have only been out since last year. And, unless it's one of the early prototype models, it should actually have the EMG 57/66 set, not the 81/85. I have those in my Hellraiser Hybrid, and they're great. Just as hot and metalish as the 81/85, if you push them, but capable of some much lighter, more articulate tones. And the 66 is seriously one of the best sounding clean neck humbuckers I've ever used. And I have a SD Jazz in the neck of one of my other ones.
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#37
The 57*/66 set is way better than the 81/85. The 66 in the neck is just goly for leads and clean tones, and the 57 is like a fuller, more articulate version of the 81. Seriously, if you can get that in a guitar, you wont need to change pickups ever again
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#38
gorkyporky
Since we're already way off topic, have you tried the 57/66 through the crunch channel of that PowerBall? I'd love to get a personal opinion on how well you can pull off what I call a rock tone - think Guns N' Roses by setting up Channel 2 on the PowerBall and playing with the volume knob on the guitar. I use the ReValver Sim of the PowerBall II and I would use the Tweed/Raw/Vintage Modes on my Mesa Roadster.

I've still got an itch for these 57/66 and they would probably end up in my E-II Eclipse but I'd love something better than the demos I can find online. Something that can handle Thrash and Rock well with a responsive volume knob.

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#39
metalmingee

I have tried it, but i honestly cant say. I have my eq set for the clean tone, so i never fiddle with the crunch channel much, since i dont really need it. I did test it out a bit a few days ago actually, and it sounded good, but i didnt have any specific tone in mind. It was a nice crunchy rock tone tho, i liked it.

I find the volume knobs pretty responsive on the pickups tho. If i need crunch i actually just roll down the volume instead of actually going to the crunch channel They clean up really nicely, and the 66 can have a nice bluesy tone when you roll down the volume and play some leads. I honestly cant say a bad thing about this pickups, except that its a shame they are not splittable. Sound wise, i dont think you can get anything much better than them, if you play mostly hi gain metal.
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gorkyporky
Thanks man!!
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Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster 212
Laney IronHeart IRT-Studio
Peavey Vypyr 30
Peavey ReValver Amp Sims
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