#1
So I am saving some money to upgrade my guitar stuff, Im a metal guitar player.
I recently bought an Ibanez rgir20e but i only have my first amp, the one i used for practising, a line 6 spider iv 15.
I know its not a good amp, so heres my question

Should I save some money (around 350 euros) and buy a new amp or a multi effect pedal board even make my own pedal board.
As a metal player i would like to have some good metal, progressive rock and psychedelic sound.

I dont know if a pedal board would make my amp sound better, but i like the option a pedal board gives you.

Sorry for bad english.
#2
The amp is going to make the most of a difference, especially at your budget and your current amp. I'd look for a used ENGL combo amp or a Laney IronHeart. Those two are my go to recommendations for Europe and Metal. . .
Guitars:
Ibanez RG1570 Prestige
Jackson Kelly KE3 - MIJ (Distortion/Jazz)
Jackson DKMGT Dinky (EMG 81/85)
ESP E-II Eclipse Custom (JB/'59)
ESP LTD EC-1001FR (EMG 81/60)
Fender MIM Strat

Amps:
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster 212
Laney IronHeart IRT-Studio
Peavey Vypyr 30
Peavey ReValver Amp Sims
TOOOO many T.C. Electronic Pedals. . .
#3
^ jet cities are hard to beat too for what they cost on thomann
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#4
If you plan to gig or play live with a drummer- new amp. Choose wisely and you will transform your sound. If you only plan to play at home get a DMFX pedal instead and a pair of headphones.
"Your sound is in your hands as much as anything. It's the way you pick, and the way you hold the guitar, more than it is the amp or the guitar you use." -- Stevie Ray Vaughan

"Anybody can play. The note is only 20 percent. The attitude of the motherfucker who plays it is 80 percent." -- Miles Davis

Guthrie on tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmohdG9lLqY
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#5
crap amp can't be fixed with pedals even really good ones. get a new amp as that is the foundation of your tone. fx are the icing on the cake.
#6
yeah, you're gonna wanna focus on the amp first
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#7
Quote by Dave_Mc
^ jet cities are hard to beat too for what they cost on thomann


I had a JCA20H and a JCA22H. Both are very solid, hard to go wrong!
#8
Amp: additional effects are not going to help the Spider 15.

If you are fine with a small amp check into some of the micro or lunchbox tube heads on the market, then dive into effects once you have an amp where they will make a difference.
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#9
Quote by monwobobbo
crap amp can't be fixed with pedals even really good ones. get a new amp as that is the foundation of your tone. fx are the icing on the cake.


yeah. i mean, depending on how and what you play, fx can be pretty critical and hard to get without pedals- but even then the amp is very important. I mean, normally you need pedals for fuzz tones, but even then the sound of those fuzz pedals is the pedal plus the amp...

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I had a JCA20H and a JCA22H. Both are very solid, hard to go wrong!


yeah. i haven't tried the smaller ones but i have the 50 watt head, and it's seriously nice for the money.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#10
Quote by Dave_Mc
yeah. i mean, depending on how and what you play, fx can be pretty critical and hard to get without pedals- but even then the amp is very important. I mean, normally you need pedals for fuzz tones, but even then the sound of those fuzz pedals is the pedal plus the amp...


yeah. i haven't tried the smaller ones but i have the 50 watt head, and it's seriously nice for the money.


I was only talking about trying to cover a shitty amp tone up with fx. obviously fx can be very important to get certain sounds but if the amp sucks then there isn't a pedal that will change that. your basic tone is all about the amp.
#11
A jet city will be the best thing you can get. Maybe also get some sort of multi fx to go with it for your effects. That is, if you want an amp, but you can also go down the modeling way with a used pod hd500 or something similar.
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#12
Quote by monwobobbo
I was only talking about trying to cover a shitty amp tone up with fx. obviously fx can be very important to get certain sounds but if the amp sucks then there isn't a pedal that will change that. your basic tone is all about the amp.


Oh yeah absolutely, I was agreeing with you.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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