#1
As the title says, I am torn between the Bugera V5 Infinium and the Hayden Lil' Mofo 2.

The only purpose of this amp will be to test guitar FX/have some amp at home, so I need a good clean tone that will compliment pedals.

Also, I have no idea if I am better off buying the 8 inch speaker combos or spending the rest of the money on a 12 inch Celestion and building my own cab.
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#2
depends on how good you are at building a cab, i guess. assuming you know what you're doing, and assuming it's one of the good celestions, that's likely to be a better plan than an 8 inch speaker.

i haven't tried either of those two amps. what's your budget?
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#7
Find a used Epi Valve Jr. The stock 8" speaker will be fine for your stated purpose. (decent tone, dirt cheap)
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#8
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The cheapest.


haha ok

the valve junior (as cajundaddy said) is actually pretty decent for a pedal platform if you can still find one. they're a bit dark stock but that can work to your advantage with pedals. the v3 version had all of the problems fixed, so I'd try to get one of those (i think on the wikipedia page about the valve junior it tells you exactly what the serial number has to be to be a V3).
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#9
You could always get something like a Pro Junior. It has a decent clean tone and has a 10 inch speaker built in. The Bassbreaker 007 is pretty cool if you want something with more gain and voiced a bit more Marshallish.

If you can find something like a used Peavey Classic 30 they are decent amps and tend to be pretty cheap used. The combos also comes with a 12 inch speaker. They made a Classic 20 combo too but those are harder to come by.
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#10
^ agreed (i haven't tried the bassbreaker), if he's willing to stretch. I'm guessing he's not, though.
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#12
Id love to get the Valve Jr. But its price including shipment and import charges makes it twice as expensive as the Bugera head.
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#13
I found a vintage Teisco tube amp for the same price as the Valve Jr. No brainer?
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#14
Consider the Quilter 101: SS, not tube, but a viable alternative.

@$300 new, $250 used. Has headphone jack. Takes pedals well.



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#16
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I found a vintage Teisco tube amp for the same price as the Valve Jr. No brainer?


No Teisco amp. The Checkmate 17 was ok but a Valve Jr sounds better to me.
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#17
Vj with a JJ tube change will be hard to beat on a budget. Eq should probably be your first purchase after that.
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#18
As I said, I cant get the valve jr cos shipping is a bitch. The rest of the amps suggested are either imports too or simply too expensive.
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#19
The used sections here are useless honestly, and when they arent they are still expensive as hell. Most amps mentioned dont exist in stores and those that are cost roughly twice as much due to customs, import charges yada yada.

So I am currently torn between the Micro Terror, the Lil' Mofo and the Bugera.
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#20
Why a Micro Terror? Those aren't really clean amps and probably don't have enough headroom for you to use it as a clean platform for pedals. If you really had to chose between those 3 amps then I would probably go with the Bugera. The Bugera sounds decent clean and at least has a proper power tube instead of using a preamp tube for the power section like the Hayden does. A little class A 5 watt EL84 amp isn't a bad layout and IMO is probably the best option given those choices.

Keep in mind that Bugera is kind of known for reliability issues but mostly on older amps and mostly in the amp clone range (1960, 1990, 333, 6262) and I personally haven't heard many issues with the V series.
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#21
I think i Found a winner. What do you guys think of the VHT Special 6 combo? My price range.
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#22
From what I remember its a modified champ circuit of some sort. Never really had an opportunity to play one personally.
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#23
I dunno, VHT have a good rep and it seems to have all I need. Plus a decent 10' speaker.
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#24
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I dunno, VHT have a good rep and it seems to have all I need. Plus a decent 10' speaker.


You have to keep in mind these newer VHTs aren't the same thing as the older VHT/Fryette amps so be sure the reviews you are reading are more recent ones.
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#26
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You have to keep in mind these newer VHTs aren't the same thing as the older VHT/Fryette amps so be sure the reviews you are reading are more recent ones.


This is a post boutique amp, it's not "the same" VHT amp all together. From the reviews I've seen it's a good amp, there was only one review where the owner said the amp went up in smoke twice.
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#27
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I think i Found a winner. What do you guys think of the VHT Special 6 combo? My price range.


yeah i have one

it's a modified champ, as H4T3BR33D3R said. i think it doesn't have negative feedback, and the boost switch makes it sound tweedier.

it's actually one of the nicer cheap tube amps (i haven't tried anywhere close to all of them, but out of the ones i've tried, it's probably the best-sounding out-of-the-box budget all-tube 5 watter), however as with most things which are cheap, there are some caveats.

- QC is a little spotty. My first one was faulty, and I've heard of other people having problems too.

- it's a little dark-sounding, stock (at least if you want sparkly fendery cleans). it has a fixed tone stack with slightly weird values. it was designed to be easy to mod, but still. easy to mod is one thing, but necessitating mods is another. i'd say, though, that with judicious speaker choice, i can get it as bright as i need (either a jensen c10q in the amp, or an eminence legend 1258 in a 1x12 cab i have).

- in its stock combo form with the little 10 inch speaker, I'm not sure it'd be my first choice for a (dirt) pedal platform amp. it can be a bit tinny, especially with the stock speaker. I've tried two other speakers in it (eminence copperhead and jensen c10q) and neither really helped the dirt-pedal performance appreciably. Now, admittedly I was deliberately using speakers to accentuate the sparkly cleans (which tends to make dirt pedals sound spikier), so that's worth bearing in mind- there may well be 10" speakers which will handle dirt pedals a lot better.

- while it does sound good, you can sort of tell corners have been cut. it doesn't sound as good as more expensive amps which were built up to a quality level rather than down to a price (don't get me wrong, it does sound good, at least IMO).
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#30
Hope you do a new amp thread!
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#31
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So in other words, the VHT is the winner.


yeah probably
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